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nycwalking

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF: (2001, 2002, 2004, 2014). Hospitalera: 2002, Ponferrada. 2004, Rabanal del Camino.
Hello,

A few weeks ago I dreamt about Saint Bernadette twice. Never in my life have I dreamt about a Saint.

As an early Episcopalian I didn’t know who she was. Sorry, but never investigated Lourdes. After my research I felt quite a strong desire to make a pilgrimage there.

Next year I wish to either walk to Lourdes from somewhere, taking all suggestions, then on to Santiago.

Or, start in Lourdes and walk to Santiago.

I am in training. By leave date April/May 2020, I pray to manage at least 15-20 kilometers daily.

On CF, I know there’s sufficient infrastructure for those distances.

However, Lourdes to SJPP or Lourdes to Puente de la Reina will there there be enough lodging for those distances? Is the lodging albergues or gites. If gites what’s the outlay for a bed.

Because, this time I wish to enter Santiago on a route other CF after Ponferrada I wish to walk the Camino Invierno. I have same lodging distance questions as Lourdes to SJPP or PdlR.

All suggestions and advice will be greatly appreciated.
 

JabbaPapa

"True Pilgrim"
Camino(s) past & future
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Wow, sound like Lourdes and the Saint are calling, possibly Mary too ---

Really, I'd suggest starting in Lourdes, then go via SJPP onto the Francès.

The Aragonès is great, but Oloron up to the Somport can be a bit of a drag.

The lodgings between Lourdes and SJPP are fine, though IIRC some of them can be a little far from each other. Otherwise, that way is shorter than via the Somport and Jaca etc.

BTW the Santiago Pilgrim's Hostel in Lourdes is one of the very best on the Camino, plus because you're there doing two pilgrimages (Lourdes and Santiago) you get to stay there two nights not just one.
 

André Walker

Never loosing my way: always standing on it
Camino(s) past & future
Holland-St.Jean, Frances, Del Norte, VdlP.
Hi NYC,

I don't know if this is exactly what you mean, but I do have some info for you.
From Lourdes there are 2 ways to get to the CF:
1: Lourdes - St. Jean: 7 days. Continue on the CF. St. Jean to Puente la Reina: 4 days. Total: 11 days.
2: Lourdes - Somport: 6 days. Continue on the Camino Aragones (joining the CF at Puente la Reina).

1:
From Lourdes you can walk along the Camino Piamonte to St. Jean in 7 days:
Stages 19 to 25.

Lourdes to Oloron Sainte Marie: albergues.
Oloron Sainte Marie to St. Jean: 3x gites, albergues in St. Jean.

Lourdes - St. Jean: 7 days / St. Jean to Puente la Reina: 4 days / Total: 11 days.

2:
Stages 19, 20 an 21 take you to Oloron Sainte Marie in 3 days.
From there: the Camino de Arles takes you to Somport in 3 days (stages 31, 32, 33): https://www.gronze.com/etapa/oloron-sainte-marie/sarrance
From Somport: follow the Camino Aragones for 6 days, before joining the CF at Puente la Reina: https://www.gronze.com/camino-aragones

There are albergues all the way from Lourdes - Oloron Sainte Marie - Somport - Puente la Reina.

Lourdes - Oloren Sainte Marie: 3 days / Oloron Sainte Marie - Somport: 3 days / Somport - Puente la Reina: 6 days / Total: 12 days.

Hope this helps. Do check out Gronze.com !! It's a very rich source of information.

And: enjoy your Camino.
 

VNwalking

Wandering in big circles
Camino(s) past & future
Francés ('14/'15)
San Olav/CF ('16)
Baztanés/CF ('17)
Ingles ('18)
Vasco/CF/Invierno ('19)
Wow, buen camino, @nycwalking ! It's high time, however you go.
Here are some threads to consider:
Lourdes to SJPP (if you want to continue on the Frances):
(there are other threads, as well...these are just a doorway in...)
Or to Irun for the Norte or Vasco/Via de Bayona (which sounds a bit more adventurous):
Oh, and there is this:

You could cobble together any number of camino mixtas:
Lourdes - SJPP - Frances
Lourdes - SJPP - Irun (via the Voie de Nive/Voie Littorale) - Vasco/Via de Bayona - Frances - Invierno
Lourdes - SJPP - Irun (via the Voie de Nive/Voie Littorale) - Norte - Olvidado - Invierno
Lourdes - SJPP - Irun (via the Voie de Nive/Voie Littorale) - Norte - Primativo

Well...for sure the Invierno is a winner. Now all you have to do is just work backwards!
Happy planning, peregrina!
 

Vacajoe

Traded in my work boots for hiking ones
Camino(s) past & future
2019 Biarritz-Pamplona-Lourdes
2018 Aragon/Frances/Finis
2018 Operation Sabre
2018 Marin Ramble
If you have walked the CF before, consider walking from Biarritz to Lourdes instead. I found that ENDING in Lourdes really added to our pilgrimage - I think the walk there really puts you into the right state of mind to appreciate that place.
 

nycwalking

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF: (2001, 2002, 2004, 2014). Hospitalera: 2002, Ponferrada. 2004, Rabanal del Camino.
If you have walked the CF before, consider walking from Biarritz to Lourdes instead. I found that ENDING in Lourdes really added to our pilgrimage - I think the walk there really puts you into the right state of mind to appreciate that place.
Um!

What is the signage like?

About how many days walking?

Albergues or gites?
 

Vacajoe

Traded in my work boots for hiking ones
Camino(s) past & future
2019 Biarritz-Pamplona-Lourdes
2018 Aragon/Frances/Finis
2018 Operation Sabre
2018 Marin Ramble
Good signage, but occasionally confusing because of multiple hiking routes along that same route. You won’t get lost, but you may end up walking a less-direct route (but you’ll end up in the same destination!). There are several free online guides and maps, too.

It’s all France, so technically they are all gîtes. They vary from a bed in a room of the village priest to monasteries to modern guest houses. 15€ a night is typical.

As previous posts note, you can stay two nights in the Lourdes pilgrim house - one of the most enjoyable places I have stayed while walking (because of the hosts and evening meal).

Depending on your speed, 10-14 days total. What’s really neat is that you can walk directly from the Biarritz airport into Biarritz city, Bayonne, or onto the river path leading toward SJPdP, depending upon time of day and how tired you are after the flight.
 

JabbaPapa

"True Pilgrim"
Camino(s) past & future
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If you have walked the CF before, consider walking from Biarritz to Lourdes instead. I found that ENDING in Lourdes really added to our pilgrimage - I think the walk there really puts you into the right state of mind to appreciate that place.
I can only agree in principle -- as my first time there in 2005, I walked from home to Lourdes then on from Lourdes to Compostela (via SJPP).

Having said that, any pilgrimage to Lourdes is fine by whatever means, and whilst walking there is meaningful to us Santiago Pilgrims, it's not a necessary at all for that particular Pilgrimage.

It's fine either way.

BUT -- doing that **is** excellent from a Compostela pilgrimage point of view, as Lourdes has been part of the Piémont Way since long before the Apparitions, and in fact it was part of the Navarrese/Basque Way to Rome since before the tomb of St James was ever discovered -- Lourdes has a long and storied tradition of Pilgrimage dating back to the earliest centuries of Christianity.

It is a powerful crossroads of three Major Pilgrim Ways, including Lourdes itself, or four if you add Jerusalem.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Nearly every year since 2006, often walking more than one route.
I've walked from Lourdes to Jaca, then down the Aragones several years ago.
It's an incredibly beautiful walk.
However, I'd strongly suggest you make reservations for every stage in France possible.
Moissac is a good place to begin. Here is a link to my blog with lots of photos:
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances, 2015
NYC, to make it a double pilgrimage I suggest that you walk at least a few days to Lourdes. I'm not familiar with the area though and so I have no suggestions for you on a good way to do that.
 

nycwalking

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF: (2001, 2002, 2004, 2014). Hospitalera: 2002, Ponferrada. 2004, Rabanal del Camino.
NYC, to make it a double pilgrimage I suggest that you walk at least a few days to Lourdes. I'm not familiar with the area though and so I have no suggestions for you on a good way to do that.
That’s the plan.

Trying to figure out logistics.
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking.
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
That’s the plan.

Trying to figure out logistics.
I am so happy for you, NYC! I know you have been patiently (or impatiently) waiting to go on a Camino again for a long time. These peeps are all so awesome with their great advise and helpful links. Just reading all of the replieis made my head spin...you have much to sort through. Happy planning my friend! 💕
 

JabbaPapa

"True Pilgrim"
Camino(s) past & future
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That’s the plan.

Trying to figure out logistics.
I guess you could do Toulouse to Maubourguet on the Arles Way, then take a GR down south from there to Lourdes, whether via Tarbes or not (personally I rather like Tarbes, and the food there could alone be worth the detour).

The GR waymarking the Piémont into Lourdes is beautiful ; but it's more alpine hiker's trekking path than pilgrim's way, and when I went that way myself, I often just completely avoided it and chose easier and more sensible, and faster, tarmac routes on little country roads at lower altitudes.

Then again, if "alpine hiker's trekking path" is your cup of tea, you'd love it !!

Another alternative would be out from Toulouse up the Garonne valley route via Muret towards Saint-Gaudens (which is waymarked), then follow that through Labarthe-Rivière to reach the Piémont Way at Barbazan, etc.
 
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nycwalking

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF: (2001, 2002, 2004, 2014). Hospitalera: 2002, Ponferrada. 2004, Rabanal del Camino.
I guess you could do Toulouse to Maubourguet on the Arles Way, then take a GR down south from there to Lourdes, whether via Tarbes or not (personally I rather like Tarbes, and the food there could alone be worth the detour).

The GR waymarking the Piémont into Lourdes is beautiful ; but it's more alpine hiker's trekking path than pilgrim's way, and when I went that way myself, I basically just completely avoided it and chose easier and more sensible, and faster, tarmac routes on little country roads at lower altitudes.

Then again, if "alpine hiker's trekking path" is your cup of tea, you'd love it !!
In the before time alpine would be okay. Now, not so much.

Is there sufficient waymarking for tarmac routes?
 
Camino(s) past & future
Frances(2006) Portugues(2013)
San Salvador (2017) Ingles (2019)
Hello,

A few weeks ago I dreamt about Saint Bernadette twice. Never in my life have I dreamt about a Saint.

As an early Episcopalian I didn’t know who she was. Sorry, but never investigated Lourdes. After my research I felt quite a strong desire to make a pilgrimage there.

Next year I wish to either walk to Lourdes from somewhere, taking all suggestions, then on to Santiago.

Or, start in Lourdes and walk to Santiago.

I am in training. By leave date April/May 2020, I pray to manage at least 15-20 kilometers daily.

On CF, I know there’s sufficient infrastructure for those distances.

However, Lourdes to SJPP or Lourdes to Puente de la Reina will there there be enough lodging for those distances? Is the lodging albergues or gites. If gites what’s the outlay for a bed.

Because, this time I wish to enter Santiago on a route other CF after Ponferrada I wish to walk the Camino Invierno. I have same lodging distance questions as Lourdes to SJPP or PdlR.

All suggestions and advice will be greatly appreciated.
So, is your head spinning enough? Looking at some of the suggestions, i decided to google this: walking from Lourdes to ST Jean Pied du Port, and see what I found! I attach a screenshot, but you ought to be able to find the thread very easily. Looking forward to your eventual choice and following you on route... 1C483AB4-075E-4197-958A-DC3E34D42CAF.png
 

JabbaPapa

"True Pilgrim"
Camino(s) past & future
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Is there sufficient waymarking for tarmac routes?
No, but it really doesn't matter -- just keep the Pyrenees to your left, look at a map occasionally, and you basically can't get lost ; which is nearly always true BTW even when you're on a waymarked path and take a wrong turn (but you need to be a lot more careful if you're up a mountain, where a wrong turn could lead to a 10K detour). Just keep a good smartphone map handy ...

If you want to avoid mountains as much as possible though, then the first route I suggested out of Toulouse passing through or near Tarbes would be the way to do that.
 

nycwalking

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF: (2001, 2002, 2004, 2014). Hospitalera: 2002, Ponferrada. 2004, Rabanal del Camino.
No, but it really doesn't matter -- just keep the Pyrenees to your left, look at a map occasionally, and you basically can't get lost ; which is nearly always true BTW even when you're on a waymarked path and take a wrong turn (but you need to be a lot more careful if you're up a mountain, where a wrong turn could lead to a 10K detour). Just keep a good smartphone map handy ...

If you want to avoid mountains as much as possible though, then the first route I suggested out of Toulouse passing through or near Tarbes would be the way to do that.
Thank you very much.

I’ll take the tarmac while looking up at the mountains.
 

Vacajoe

Traded in my work boots for hiking ones
Camino(s) past & future
2019 Biarritz-Pamplona-Lourdes
2018 Aragon/Frances/Finis
2018 Operation Sabre
2018 Marin Ramble
Lourdes to Oloron was more tarmac than path, so it should suit you. Maps.me app provides great offline maps that can guide you.
 

Ed & Lisa

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
May 2021
NYC walking- try stacey Wittig’s book Spiritual and walking guide: Lourdes to St Jean Pied de Port. Stage by stage guide.
 

Anthony Rocco

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2014, Ignaciano +Aragones +Parts of Frances 2016, Salvador, Primitivo, Ingles (2017)
Two years ago, my wife and I flew to Toulouse via Frankfurt, went to the Cathedral in Toulouse where we received a stamp, a blessing and a personal inspirational talk by a priest in the sacristy, took the train to Lourdes and spent a day there. Don't miss the nightly procession. It's unforgettable. We then walked to Oleron where met some fellow pellerin who recommended walking to Somport. The next day we stopped at the monastery in Sarrance , one of our favorite stops of any Camino we have done. Somport is so impressive because of the high peaks, which SJPD does not have. We then continued on the Aragones, which we loved. At Logrono, we turned south to walk the Camino Ignaciano, which ends at Montserrat and Manresa. This was a long Camino Combo, but by far the most religious and most adventurous. Nothing we have done compared to spending the night in Montserrat.
 

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