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Thanks @trecile.Have you been in contact with either Orisson or Auberge Borda? I think that if it's safe to walk enough to do as you suggest that they will be open.
According to their Facebook page Auberge Borda is taking bookings via email: aubergeborda@gmail.comThanks @trecile.
Orisson is not taking bookings till after 12 April but if the Napoleon route is open when I walk (ie 7 April) they may be open. Borda is booked through booking.com but currently not accessible. I'm trying to get some certainty but may have to make final decisions on the chosen route on that day!
Hi @anamcaraHI @Streetfood
Just to add that, in the event that the Route Napoleon is not open when you walk in early April - or you're unable to find a bed at Orisson or Borda - the Valcaros Route is also very scenic and enjoyable and, contrary to what is sometimes assumed, it's 'no walk in the park' in terms of effort.
I've walked from SJPP to Roncesvalles three times. Twice I've walked in one day - once via Napoleon Route and once via Valcaros route. And a third time (which was in fact my first Camino) over two days via Napoleon route stopping in Orrison. All were wonderful experiences with beautiful scenery. If you need or choose to go via the Valcaros route, you can also cut that into two stages.
Buen camino
Honestly I don't remember feeling any sense of danger at all - and I have felt that sense on some sections of various Camino paths if they are roadside And it was raining for much of the day when we took the Valcaros route (snow on the Napoleon).Hi @anamcara
How dangerous is the road walking on the Valcarlos route?
@mspath to the rescue of my vague recollections Thank you. Yes we walked much of the time on a path through the wood. Most enjoyable.Streetfood,
In easier happier times I have walked the Valcarlos route 10 times. There is a path to follow through the wood; when walking in winter I walked the verges of the route N135 in order to avoid the snow covered path through the wood.
Muchas gracias trecile.According to their Facebook page Auberge Borda is taking bookings via email: aubergeborda@gmail.com
l'Auberge Borda opens on April 1st. You can book at this address : aubergeborda@gmail.comHi Everyone,
Thanks for your advice.
I don't want to walk from SJPDP to Roncesvalles in a single day. Normally I would overnight at Orisson before continuing to Roncesvalles on the Route de Napoleon but as I depart SJPDP on 7 April neither Refuge Orisson or Auberge Borda may be open. The obvious alternative is to take the Route Valcarlos but I'm wondering about going up the Napoleon route past Orisson (I like the view!) to the D-128 turn-off & then walking down the D-128 to overnight in Valcarlos before heading to Roncesvalles on the second day. Can someone tell me the distance between the D-128 turn-off on the Route Napoleon & Valcarlos?
Just in case you change your mind my OSMand app shows a 5.7 mile, 9 km walk from the intersection of routes D428 and D128 on the Napoleon to the point on the D128 where you cross the river to Valcarlos. Stay on the D128; there are trails and minor roads that get you there in a shorter distance but it could take you a much longer time if you get lost.Muchas gracias trecile.
I have emailed a reservation request to Augerge Borda
FYI in 2013, the Napoleon route was closed due to snow and poor visibility on April 19th and again on April 28th. No views at all. Even the Valcarlos route had lots of snow so it made navigating a bit difficult.Hi Everyone,
Thanks for your advice.
I don't want to walk from SJPDP to Roncesvalles in a single day. Normally I would overnight at Orisson before continuing to Roncesvalles on the Route de Napoleon but as I depart SJPDP on 7 April neither Refuge Orisson or Auberge Borda may be open. The obvious alternative is to take the Route Valcarlos but I'm wondering about going up the Napoleon route past Orisson (I like the view!) to the D-128 turn-off & then walking down the D-128 to overnight in Valcarlos before heading to Roncesvalles on the second day. Can someone tell me the distance between the D-128 turn-off on the Route Napoleon & Valcarlos?
What Rick states is very important. Furthermore after crossing the river on D128 a steep path climbs up the hillside to Valcarlos. I have seen strong men truly exhausted after this climb from the river especially in bad weather.Just in case you change your mind my OSMand app shows a 5.7 mile, 9 km walk from the intersection of routes D428 and D128 on the Napoleon to the point on the D128 where you cross the river to Valcarlos. Stay on the D128; there are trails and minor roads that get you there in a shorter distance but it could take you a much longer time if you get lost.
Buen Camino.
Yeah, it's a really short walk from the river to the albergue (one of the first buildings you come to in town). But it is really steep. And if it is icy, and you survive, you will have one heck of a tale to tell.What Rick states is very important. Furthermore after crossing the river on D128 a steep path climbs up the hillside to Valcarlos. I have seen strong men truly exhausted after this climb from the river especially in bad weather.
Thanks Rick, I've made an annotation to BrierleyJust in case you change your mind my OSMand app shows a 5.7 mile, 9 km walk from the intersection of routes D428 and D128 on the Napoleon to the point on the D128 where you cross the river to Valcarlos. Stay on the D128; there are trails and minor roads that get you there in a shorter distance but it could take you a much longer time if you get lost.
Buen Camino.
It took a couple of days to get a reply, but I was able to make a reservation for later in April at Borda via that email address.Muchas gracias trecile.
I have emailed a reservation request to Augerge Borda
Fantastic - Buen Camino!It took a couple of days to get a reply, but I was able to make a reservation for later in April at Borda via that email address.
¡Buen Camino!
We have been both ways and i offer this as a sometimes wise 70 plus year old.How dangerous is the road walking on the Valcarlos route?
Can someone tell me the distance between the D-128 turn-off on the Route Napoleon & Valcarlos?
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