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We have decided not to take sleeping bags
I have always carried a 35 litre, as a woman who carries no extras I find that it is packed to the gills. I have just bought a 40litre so that I don't have to carry a seperate food bag.I understand that its roughly 10% of body weight (or less), I can work out the upper end of the weight, however, how does this translate to Litres as a backpack measurement? As a tall and er.. overweight woman, a very tall husband plus 2 kids 9 and 12 - what size packs should be be looking at? We have decided not to take sleeping bags (we will stay in hotels or albergues with private rooms with bedding). We will be doing a March/April Camino on the CF.
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10% of your body weight is not a good standard in determining the load a person can carry. For example, a person whose body weight is, 110 pounds, would be limited to carrying only 11 pounds. You simply cannot get by with such a small amount of rain gear, clothing, water bottles, snacks, etc. I weigh 135 pounds and walked the Camino Frances last September-October carrying about 20 pounds. I used an Osprey Talon 44. I have owned many packs but none as good. Properly adjusted it felt almost weightless.I understand that its roughly 10% of body weight (or less), I can work out the upper end of the weight, however, how does this translate to Litres as a backpack measurement? As a tall and er.. overweight woman, a very tall husband plus 2 kids 9 and 12 - what size packs should be be looking at? We have decided not to take sleeping bags (we will stay in hotels or albergues with private rooms with bedding). We will be doing a March/April Camino on the CF.
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A mid-thirty liter pack ought to suffice, especially if you’re not carrying a sleeping bag. I used a 36 liter Osprey pack and carried a sleeping bag.I understand that its roughly 10% of body weight (or less), I can work out the upper end of the weight, however, how does this translate to Litres as a backpack measurement? As a tall and er.. overweight woman, a very tall husband plus 2 kids 9 and 12 - what size packs should be be looking at? We have decided not to take sleeping bags (we will stay in hotels or albergues with private rooms with bedding). We will be doing a March/April Camino on the CF.
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I don't like having to pack everything in precisely - loath struggling to get things inside.
Two of a kind.I use an Osprey 35 L pack and including my lightweight sleeping bag it seems just about perfect and weighs ten pounds without water. I try to be quite minimalistic in my approach and carry just the basic of forum recommendations overall.
My one extra indulgance rarely mentioned is a very cheap, lightweight dollar store fitted bottom sheet treated with permathrin and its matching pillowcase. They come in a variety of awesome fabric patterns and my bunk is a "one of a kind"...but I've digressed from the original question.
I use the Osprey Talon 33l and only fill it half full even in cooler months. Plenty big enough if you slim down to the basics.
I also carry basic camping gear so I can sleep out if I want to (air mat, exposure/bivy bag, cord to make poncho into a tarp).
33l should be plenty big enough especially if you take some of the lightweighting advice on various threads on here
I plan to walk the Via de la Plata next in spring or autumn and have bought an Osprey Rev 6litre (yes only 6l capacity) and find I can get everything I will need in there based on past experience (minus the camping items). The point is you can take as little or as much as you like but less is more in my opinion.
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Hi "Gear Junkie". I loved the photo of your new pack and think it was the color and weight that did it for me.My friend carried a 22 liter backpack, because that's what she had. She carried pretty much the same amount of stuff that I carried in a 36 liter, but it was like putting a puzzle together every day. I was amazed that everything fit in that little pack. Of course my 36 liter had extra room, and I used my compression straps. I just bought a new 32 liter pack that I think that I'm going to like, especially how lightweight it is at 1 pound 15 ounces, or 880 grams.
I was equally surprised when I read that, too!...6 L?? He's got to be kidding! I wanted to tease by asking if he was naked every time he did his laundry, but then decided to not run away with the emotionally driven side of my personality and just leave that comment to myself...oops, guess I didn't.6l?!! I don’t think my socks (was going to write underwear but have made it G rated) would fit in a 6l pack. Hats off to you.
I like my Kestrel 48 for heavy duty back packing in in the Cascades, But I just purchased a Osprey Exos 38 that weighs 2 lbs. I like it 2 lbs. off. and a good sale price from REI. I have practiced packing for my next Camino and the base weight is 5 lbs. + water and snacks so I carry 10-12 lbs. totalNow, I feel much better about donating my 48 liter Osprey Kestrel, and downsizing to an Osprey Kestrel 38 (actually a 36) due to the shorter torso harness. Despite it fitting well and having done several short hikes (7-10 km) range, I remain slightly anxious about my next full Camino.
Having started out five years ago doing so, now I do not usually take a sleeping bag. I do carry an Alps Mountaineering microfiber, full zip, rectangular bag liner. But, this year I bought a Sea to Summit down, zippered quilt that packs very small and weighs well under 1 kg. I am using it under evaluation. If it works it stays. If it does not, it goes... Easy peasy.
Even if it does not fit with everything else, I can always put it in a stuff sack and attach it to the top or bottom...RESULT! My stuff sacks for exterior "dangly bits" are very brightly colored (international safety orange). So they double as a visibility enhancement for road walking.
Thanks for the above exchange of ideas. It helped.
Exos 48 for me too. It's never packed full but gives me the option to carry tent and camping equipment if needed.For an adult walking the summer months on the Camino Frances, a pack in the low 30's L is enough (sleeping bag liner, readily available food supplies, minimal rain gear). Any other condition will increase the needed size: camping gear, small children, cool spring weather, sleeping bag, wet spring weather, walking in France where several days' groceries are necessary. I use an Osprey Exos 48 because of these sorts of situations, but the Exos 38 model was not available then.
Well, thank you everyone! Lots of great info - and while the answers to my question re pack size was always going to be an estimate - I have a better idea of what to look out for.
Many of you here (and in private) have pointed out the importance of getting a bag that is fitted by professionals and that a good fitting bag is the most important consideration - thank you. I have looked at a couple of shops and each time the assistant mentioned that there was a bit of a process to choosing the right backpack - so that is reassuring. I will most definitely keep your advice in mind. I live almost 3 hrs from the major stores, so am doing a lot of on-line browsing (will buy in-store). We are heading off to the city in the next few weeks for a weekend of Camino shopping - a bit of a process when it is x4. Lurch, my husband is 6'4" - hopefully he wont struggle with finding the right pack.
I am thinking of getting some packing cells to make it easier to track our own belongings. Eagle Creek have compression cells which I was thinking of getting for my husband and me - so while the packs will be the same weight, compressed means it wont be so tightly packed... what do you think (hint... it won't be the first time I have been accused of overthinking things!!!!)
Firewood - yay! Another family.. We had originally planned to leave beginning of March but decided to give it a couple of extra weeks so that more places would be open. When are you leaving? It would be great if our paths cross. I think we will be in sjpdp around 19 March. And thank you for your kind words.
Firewood - yay! Another family.. We had originally planned to leave beginning of March but decided to give it a couple of extra weeks so that more places would be open. When are you leaving? It would be great if our paths cross. I think we will be in sjpdp around 19 March. And thank you for your kind words.
I have a 50 litre black diamond pack, which can be compressed with the straps
I have a 50 litre black diamond pack, which can be compressed with the straps (as you will see by the pic below). I did my camino in the fall, so felt it necessary to bring along my sleeping bag and I'm glad I did because some of those albergue blankets were kind of gross. Don't forget that you can send your pack ahead every day if necessary, so, if your children have trouble with their gear, you can always send theirs ahead.
Just don't end up looking like this!!
Buen Camino
I was equally surprised when I read that, too!...6 L?? He's got to be kidding! I wanted to tease by asking if he was naked every time he did his laundry, but then decided to not run away with the emotionally driven side of my personality and just leave that comment to myself...oops, guess I didn't.
Yes, please. Packing list and photo!Yep. Plan to take a 6litre Osprey next time (warm months). 3 caminos done and take less and less each time! Damn, I'll have to take a photo and do a packing list now?!
Yes, please. Packing list and photo!
I intend to do my first Camino next October and I intend to use the Osprey Exos 38 rucksack, assuming that I'm still able to purchase this model next year. The decision is based upon info, advice, and recommendations gleaned from forums such as this - and the fact that this rucksack is very light when empty.I understand that its roughly 10% of body weight (or less), I can work out the upper end of the weight, however, how does this translate to Litres as a backpack measurement? As a tall and er.. overweight woman, a very tall husband plus 2 kids 9 and 12 - what size packs should be be looking at? We have decided not to take sleeping bags (we will stay in hotels or albergues with private rooms with bedding). We will be doing a March/April Camino on the CF.
Thanks
Thank you for your detailed minimalist list of items that fills your 6L day pack. Now I just need to convert all the ml, kg, and g into the USA measurements in pounds and ounces!View attachment 37564 View attachment 37563
Oh dear, here we go. Sub 2kg pack weight for warmer months using an Osprey Rev 6 litre running pack.
Roll-on deo (half full), wet wipes, 50ml spf 50 (half full), 16ml toothpaste, folding toothbrush, aluminium tin containing soap block (showering and laundry), phone charger, passport, credential, First aid (bandage, plasters, paracetamol, chlorine dioxide tablets (water purifucation), wound dressing, tape (micropore, good for taping toes), Imodium, ear plugs, toothpicks, Compeed silicone stick (foot care).
Total sundries 470g
Swimming trunks 55g
WarmPeace Hotshirt 155g
Northface shorts 213g
Biwak hiking towel 143g
Silk sleeping liner 119g
Karrimor XS dry bag 50g
Reading glasses 27g
Helly Hansen waterproof jacket 270g
Merino socks 70g
Total gear 1102g
Total carried in pack = 1572g
Plus 2l water in hydration bladder 2000g
Osprey 6 litre Rev 6 Pack weight 400g
Total including pack weight 3972g
Total without water 1972g
Worn: Hat, earbuds, phone, sunglasses, wallet.
Edit: Plus Hotshirt, Northface shorts, merino socks and swimming trunks (set No 2 for Chris Camino's benefit...It's no good/too late now, you already have the image in your mind.)
Not usually a fan of hydration bladders but will be using one on Via de la Plata. In colder months I would dump tha bladder and just use 500ml shop bought water bottle. Without bladder in rucksack there is space for my super light sleeping bag in the hydration bladder pocket.
That's based on 3 caminos, leaving out stuff I have taken in the past but not used etc. A bit extreme but I like this new mini pack as it leaves my lower back free for ventilation.
@coolavidt - a 30l pack is okay if your walking in summer and on the Camino Frances where there are small towns every 5km. However, in winter time and on the longer stretches (i.e Via de la Plata which is over 100km and the average daily distance is around 25-30km) you'll probably need a 46 -50l pack to carry a minimum of two litres of water and food. What does this mean? Hands free and nothing dangling off the sides of your pack or around your waist except for your pack belt. And you can still get your pack weight down to a comfortable and manageable weight.Thirty litres is the perfect size. If u use a bigger bag it is a sign u are carrying too much stuff.
Thirty litres can carry food for the day, water and all your stuff without cramming stuff in
Thank you for your detailed minimalist list of items that fills your 6L day pack. Now I just need to convert all the ml, kg, and g into the USA measurements in pounds and ounces!
My tiny daughter in law, who had never hiked before, purchased the Exos 48, left the removeable top at home and absolutely loved it with no complaints for the 800k walk. It even fit in the overhead on the plane.I intend to do my first Camino next October and I intend to use the Osprey Exos 38 rucksack, assuming that I'm still able to purchase this model next year. The decision is based upon info, advice, and recommendations gleaned from forums such as this - and the fact that this rucksack is very light when empty.
Did your neat and tidy little daypack serve you well on the VdP?(Xg/1000) * 2.2 = lb
You could consider an expandable backpack. Mine is a 40 liter but can be expanded to 50 liters. As it turned out the 40 liters was (more than) enough.
I'm sorry, but none of the backpacks in the linked articles look appropriate for the Camino.Tips, the backpack with charging design is also very good:
Have you walked the camino, or are you planning it for 2020?When I was on the same journey, I found that the 35-liter backpack was just right for me, and I could easily complete my trip without bearing too much weight. Tips, the backpack with charging design is also very good: https://www.gearhunder.com/backpack-with-charger/
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