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Less widely known as a source of microplastic is the breakdown of synthetic fabrics, which forms tiny plastic fibres. Reports now indicate that these are the most common form of microplastic recovered from sediment and water samples. And the vast majority of these are produced during domestic clothes washing.
I was getting ready to say this same thing about my Smartwool socks. I love them, however they do not hold up well with a lot of use and I am a small person so no unusual pressure on the bottoms of my feet. I usually walk in the spring, but for my one summer Camino I purchased a thin pair of Smartwool socks and they wore out in training before I went...very disappointing. I use technical wicking fabrics and been very happy. My skin is very sensitive to wool (itchiness, even of Merino) and I have no odor problems cuz I smell like a rose anyway.Their socks on the other hand, well, the only good thing was they have a lifetime guarantee. When I returned them after less than 2 weeks the guy at the store said he has seen this before...
Oh yes. Cheap Merino do not last long. I "killed" 2 cheap (€20 each) Merino shortsleeves on my CF in 2019.TL/DR - marino shirts being shredded by pack. Do you folks wear marino shirts in direct contact with your pack?
I have completed two short hikes with a 5 kilo pack I n as many weeks. I wore a new REI Marino wool shirt for the first hike of about 7k. I washed the shirt, most gentle setting/on cold, and when I was hanging it up I noticed that I had some new ventilation holes on the back. I thought it might be a one off quality control issue, or moths. I took the shirt back and picked up a replacement shirt.
Today I wore a Patagonia brand marino top for a short 6k hike. When I took the top off I noticed that it had holes on the back. Now I’m pretty convinced that the holes are where my pack rubs the back of my shirt, though not where the shoulder straps make contact.
Are my marino shirts too delicate to wear directly next to my pack? Good to go if that’s the case but feel a bit put out that these relatively expensive shirts are not as durable as I want.
I have exactly the same experience. My theory is that it can be the sturdy thread stitching the strap clips to the belt - the ends are often burnt to stop the thread from fraying, which makes them hard and sharp. Not enough to notice on your skin through the top, but on a knitted material all it takes is one tiny broken thread to make a hole. Might be worth checking.what I have often discovered- regardless of brand = are the sudden appearance of small holes usually right in front
As C Clearly says, a mix with polyester is good. I wore my Rohan merino\ polyester hoody nearly everyday on the vf with a 12kg pack - no wear shown.TL/DR - marino shirts being shredded by pack. Do you folks wear marino shirts in direct contact with your pack?
I have completed two short hikes with a 5 kilo pack I n as many weeks. I wore a new REI Marino wool shirt for the first hike of about 7k. I washed the shirt, most gentle setting/on cold, and when I was hanging it up I noticed that I had some new ventilation holes on the back. I thought it might be a one off quality control issue, or moths. I took the shirt back and picked up a replacement shirt.
Today I wore a Patagonia brand marino top for a short 6k hike. When I took the top off I noticed that it had holes on the back. Now I’m pretty convinced that the holes are where my pack rubs the back of my shirt, though not where the shoulder straps make contact.
Are my marino shirts too delicate to wear directly next to my pack? Good to go if that’s the case but feel a bit put out that these relatively expensive shirts are not as durable as I want.
Yes - since February 2012 and no issues. My merino tops are lighter weightsDo you folks wear marino shirts in direct contact with your pack?
Have 2 Icebreaker t shirts. They have walked Lisbon to Sdc and SJJP to Sdc. They will both come on Norte when we are allowed.TL/DR - merino shirts being shredded by pack. Do you folks wear merino shirts in direct contact with your pack?
I have completed two short hikes with a 5 kilo pack I n as many weeks. I wore a new REI Merino wool shirt for the first hike of about 7k. I washed the shirt, most gentle setting/on cold, and when I was hanging it up I noticed that I had some new ventilation holes on the back. I thought it might be a one off quality control issue, or moths. I took the shirt back and picked up a replacement shirt.
Today I wore a Patagonia brand merino top for a short 6k hike. When I took the top off I noticed that it had holes on the back. Now I’m pretty convinced that the holes are where my pack rubs the back of my shirt, though not where the shoulder straps make contact.
Are my merino shirts too delicate to wear directly next to my pack? Good to go if that’s the case but feel a bit put out that these relatively expensive shirts are not as durable as I want.
I wore a lightweight Icebreaker shirt for 42 days straight, with my pack, and it still looks like new. Check out Icebreaker wool clothing; it costs more, but lasts seemingly forever.TL/DR - merino shirts being shredded by pack. Do you folks wear merino shirts in direct contact with your pack?
I have completed two short hikes with a 5 kilo pack I n as many weeks. I wore a new REI Merino wool shirt for the first hike of about 7k. I washed the shirt, most gentle setting/on cold, and when I was hanging it up I noticed that I had some new ventilation holes on the back. I thought it might be a one off quality control issue, or moths. I took the shirt back and picked up a replacement shirt.
Today I wore a Patagonia brand merino top for a short 6k hike. When I took the top off I noticed that it had holes on the back. Now I’m pretty convinced that the holes are where my pack rubs the back of my shirt, though not where the shoulder straps make contact.
Are my merino shirts too delicate to wear directly next to my pack? Good to go if that’s the case but feel a bit put out that these relatively expensive shirts are not as durable as I want.
Thanks for the insight regarding your shirt. I considered trying Merino on my next pilgrimage. On my first Camino, I used bamboo shirts. They wore well and were comfortable and are anti-macrobial. I prefer natural fibers but cotton is a big mistake on the Camino as it retains sweat and will smell. The only downside to the bamboo is that it will look a bit tired after the numerous hand washes compared to synthetic. Just a suggestion.TL/DR - merino shirts being shredded by pack. Do you folks wear merino shirts in direct contact with your pack?
I have completed two short hikes with a 5 kilo pack I n as many weeks. I wore a new REI Merino wool shirt for the first hike of about 7k. I washed the shirt, most gentle setting/on cold, and when I was hanging it up I noticed that I had some new ventilation holes on the back. I thought it might be a one off quality control issue, or moths. I took the shirt back and picked up a replacement shirt.
Today I wore a Patagonia brand merino top for a short 6k hike. When I took the top off I noticed that it had holes on the back. Now I’m pretty convinced that the holes are where my pack rubs the back of my shirt, though not where the shoulder straps make contact.
Are my merino shirts too delicate to wear directly next to my pack? Good to go if that’s the case but feel a bit put out that these relatively expensive shirts are not as durable as I want.
I walked from st jean to Santiago with smartwool and merino, and they are in pretty good shape. May be it has to do with the “base layer” or “top layer” mark. Base layers may not work good directly rubbing the backpack.TL/DR - merino shirts being shredded by pack. Do you folks wear merino shirts in direct contact with your pack?
I have completed two short hikes with a 5 kilo pack I n as many weeks. I wore a new REI Merino wool shirt for the first hike of about 7k. I washed the shirt, most gentle setting/on cold, and when I was hanging it up I noticed that I had some new ventilation holes on the back. I thought it might be a one off quality control issue, or moths. I took the shirt back and picked up a replacement shirt.
Today I wore a Patagonia brand merino top for a short 6k hike. When I took the top off I noticed that it had holes on the back. Now I’m pretty convinced that the holes are where my pack rubs the back of my shirt, though not where the shoulder straps make contact.
Are my merino shirts too delicate to wear directly next to my pack? Good to go if that’s the case but feel a bit put out that these relatively expensive shirts are not as durable as I want.
Have you tried other materials to see if the pack is wearing them down as well?TL/DR - merino shirts being shredded by pack. Do you folks wear merino shirts in direct contact with your pack?
I have completed two short hikes with a 5 kilo pack I n as many weeks. I wore a new REI Merino wool shirt for the first hike of about 7k. I washed the shirt, most gentle setting/on cold, and when I was hanging it up I noticed that I had some new ventilation holes on the back. I thought it might be a one off quality control issue, or moths. I took the shirt back and picked up a replacement shirt.
Today I wore a Patagonia brand merino top for a short 6k hike. When I took the top off I noticed that it had holes on the back. Now I’m pretty convinced that the holes are where my pack rubs the back of my shirt, though not where the shoulder straps make contact.
Are my merino shirts too delicate to wear directly next to my pack? Good to go if that’s the case but feel a bit put out that these relatively expensive shirts are not as durable as I want.
I think it is safe to say that merino wool is not as durable as nylon, polyester or even cotton. That's why I use a blend, and also typically wear a button-up roll-sleeve hiking shirt over it.feel a bit put out that these relatively expensive shirts are not as durable as I want
I also darn socks, but I don't take the mended ones on hikes because they are a blister risk.
You missed a bit on the hem
I have a very old pair of organic chunky wool socks that are now more darning wool than original! (I use my grandmother’s ancient darning ‘mushroom’.)
They’re still great in my old sheepskin boots when it’s really cold
... and my 15 year-old merino jumper has been through the wash dozens of times and there’s not a single pill on it anywhere.
It always brings a ‘hmm‘ to mind when I read, for instance, ‘some pilling is to be expected with a high-quality (!) merino wool garment’ ...
Edit: Alpkit merino is stronger, cheaper and better designed for fit than Icebreaker .. imho
I only wear a long sleeve 150 gm merino wool top (layered with 2 short sleeve bamboo tops as needed) under my rain or puff jackets and I just threw mine out after probably 4000 km in it with a pack. I buy mine at the Canadian store MEC and just got a replacement for CAD $47. I’d return it.TL/DR - merino shirts being shredded by pack. Do you folks wear merino shirts in direct contact with your pack?
I have completed two short hikes with a 5 kilo pack I n as many weeks. I wore a new REI Merino wool shirt for the first hike of about 7k. I washed the shirt, most gentle setting/on cold, and when I was hanging it up I noticed that I had some new ventilation holes on the back. I thought it might be a one off quality control issue, or moths. I took the shirt back and picked up a replacement shirt.
Today I wore a Patagonia brand merino top for a short 6k hike. When I took the top off I noticed that it had holes on the back. Now I’m pretty convinced that the holes are where my pack rubs the back of my shirt, though not where the shoulder straps make contact.
Are my merino shirts too delicate to wear directly next to my pack? Good to go if that’s the case but feel a bit put out that these relatively expensive shirts are not as durable as I want.
You missed a bit on the hem
silk with any wool is a marvelous mixOver the years I have bought a selection of long sleeve very lightweight merino t shirts from Aldi. The quality is very variable. If the knit is loose (ie the fabric is extremely stretchy) they don't last, but I have three that are a tighter knit and seem to go on forever. With those I've not had any problem with pack wear.
The most comfortable fabric I've ever worn is a mix of 60% silk, 40% merino and 10% cotton. Love the feeling and it's good for any weather. It is not flattering though because the solid colour shows every mark and every bit of sweat!
I wish I could mend like this:
Good question, I just started using wool, will be interested to hear others' experiences. Love the wool underwearTL/DR - merino shirts being shredded by pack. Do you folks wear merino shirts in direct contact with your pack?
I have completed two short hikes with a 5 kilo pack I n as many weeks. I wore a new REI Merino wool shirt for the first hike of about 7k. I washed the shirt, most gentle setting/on cold, and when I was hanging it up I noticed that I had some new ventilation holes on the back. I thought it might be a one off quality control issue, or moths. I took the shirt back and picked up a replacement shirt.
Today I wore a Patagonia brand merino top for a short 6k hike. When I took the top off I noticed that it had holes on the back. Now I’m pretty convinced that the holes are where my pack rubs the back of my shirt, though not where the shoulder straps make contact.
Are my merino shirts too delicate to wear directly next to my pack? Good to go if that’s the case but feel a bit put out that these relatively expensive shirts are not as durable as I want.
First time around, I read: needle and thread experience....!!If I may offer some opinions ...
For what it is worth, I am a Certified Textile Engineering Technologist with years of experience in the fine-Merino-wool yarn spinning & dyeing industry, plus needle trade experience.
First time around, I read: needle and thread experience....!!
There were many others who showed similar experiences.I have now checked out my collection of merino tops for holes and anything else that might be relevant.
Of the seven to hand:
a) none have holes
b) two are so old they have the now not-used tag showing which grower gave up the wool
c) three (including the two above) have been washed so often I could not read the care or composition
d) four, including two purchased earlier this year, had readable care and composition tags
e) from those four I learned the composition was either 87% wool or 50% wool
A bit difficult on camino, but ...Merino is mendable!
However, due to the risk of abrasion damage, I did not use any wool garments on any of my pilgrimages.
Me, biased towards wool? Aaaghh! I have been outed, and must be branded on the forehead with The Woolmark (a trademark of The Woolmark Company).@Pilgrim9, I wonder if your real extensive "years of experience ..." have given you a bias.
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Please, lets not start with the sheep jokesPilgrim, you forgot to mention that they are also the prettiest of animals. From the valleys, boyo? Personally I do wish they wouldn't cough just like humans when it's dark and you are getting tired and are in the middle of nowhere.
low-polluting
I usually wear T-shirts a brand called Joe fresh which I buy here in Canada from Zhers. I am still wearing them with. after two years.I’ve had good success with icebreaker underwear, base layers (tops and bottoms) and ‘fashion’ t-shirts over years of use. The pure wool pieces are really comfortable and live up to the hype of being able to control odour... Their socks on the other hand, well, the only good thing was they have a lifetime guarantee. When I returned them after less than 2 weeks the guy at the store said he has seen this before...
a close study of what I wrote will reveal that my adjectival phrase: "low polluting" applied only to the "vegetarian autonomous mobile fibre production units"
T-shirts a brand called Joe fresh which I buy here in Canada from Zhers
I missed seeing what it is you do wear.
Hi @nathanael. I've just looked at the Joe Fresh website. And at their "Men's Moisture-wicking active tee".
The materials are said to be 9% Spandex and 91% Jersey.
Can you help me understand what "Jersey" is? If it is a wool, then what is the breed of animal?
It seems very attractively priced at CAD 16.
No, they are not durable. I found mine wore out pretty quickly (mind you, after many kms) but I still wear themTL/DR - merino shirts being shredded by pack. Do you folks wear merino shirts in direct contact with your pack?
I have completed two short hikes with a 5 kilo pack I n as many weeks. I wore a new REI Merino wool shirt for the first hike of about 7k. I washed the shirt, most gentle setting/on cold, and when I was hanging it up I noticed that I had some new ventilation holes on the back. I thought it might be a one off quality control issue, or moths. I took the shirt back and picked up a replacement shirt.
Today I wore a Patagonia brand merino top for a short 6k hike. When I took the top off I noticed that it had holes on the back. Now I’m pretty convinced that the holes are where my pack rubs the back of my shirt, though not where the shoulder straps make contact.
Are my merino shirts too delicate to wear directly next to my pack? Good to go if that’s the case but feel a bit put out that these relatively expensive shirts are not as durable as I want.
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