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You dont need to show anything at Orisson. Just turn up, give them your name and they tick you of their checklist. After all, you have your credencial and passport to prove identity, they have your name on a list and besides, you are assumed to be an honest pilgrim.Buen Camino Everyone. I’ve looked through the many previous treads in booking at Orisson and I can’t find the specific answer I’m looking for.
I went to the Orisson site, tried to prebook a bed for September 3rd. They sent the email with the PayPal link and I paid through PayPal, I received an email from PayPal with my receipt but I never got any confirmation email from Orisson.
My question is, do they even send a confirmation via email or do you just show them the PayPal receipt? I wondered because all the post on here say they take forever to get back to you but they were all taking about the invoice (It did indeed come to my junk mail folder! Thank you forum members for alerting me to that)
So is there a confirmation email from Orisson and I just have to wait (it’s been 17days since I made the payment) or is the PayPal receipt all you get and I’m waiting for an email that’s never going to come? What do you show them at Orisson to prove you have a booking? Thanks everyone!
To arrive there in 1 hour and 40 minutes sounds very impressive, almost like it was a jog. Not the case for this mere mortal.
I totally agree. I recently had my 3rd stay at Orisson. I could have walked to Roncesvalles, but I love the camaraderie and connections that I make at Orisson, and I have plenty of time to walk the Camino. I have never left St Jean early, I get a leisurely breakfast, grab a snack and leave around 11:00.All due respect to John, but I loved Orisson. I've done that trek twice. The first time SJPP to Roncesvalles, the second time I stopped at Orisson. First, you don't NEED ,to begin walking at 7:30. Rather enjoy a nice b'fast and leave around 10. Get to Orisson in time for lunch, a shower, a beverage, maybe a nap, AND then enjoy a great family style meal with 30 of your close friend. Many of the folks we met in Orisson continued to be our Camino buddies. It's a great way to start. It is also a good way to break up one of the toughest part of the Camino. Relax and remember it is your Camino
Bob
.... To arrive there in 1 hour and 40 minutes sounds very impressive, almost like it was a jog. Not the case for this mere mortal.
Over one hundred years ago a mountaineer devised a formula to help determine the amount of time to expect to cover distances in the mountains. From GPS data I have he would estimate this trip to take two and a half hours. Pilgrims can use his "rule" on hikes taken at home and compare his estimated time versus their actual time to see how well they might do on the Route Napoleon.
From Wikipedia's article on Naismith's Rule:
Naismith's rule helps with the planning of a walking or hiking expedition by calculating how long it will take to travel the intended route, including any extra time taken when walking uphill. This rule of thumb was devised by William W. Naismith, a Scottish mountaineer, in 1892. A modern version can be formulated as follows:
Allow one hour for every 3 miles (5 km) forward, plus an additional hour for every 2,000 feet (600 m) of ascent.
In my 2015 Brierley guide for the CF he gives you both. He doesn't measure the slopes though; he gives an additional equivalent distance. He uses the modified rule to find the time needed to do the uphill elevation portion of each section and then figures if you walk at 3 kph (not 5 kph) for that many hours what distance would be covered and then adds that to the horizontal distance to get an equivalent distance. He gives the horizontal distance at the top of the first page for each section and a bit below next to a mountain range icon the equivalent distance.There’s something I never quite understood though. The distances mentioned in guides, are they distances between geographical coordinates or are they *walking* distances taking into account the various inclines and declines?
and visited more often by car for a respite from city life in Biarritz.
Hi John! I cross the Pyrénées twice and I stayed twice in Orisson! Loved it, don’t miss it!All due respect to John, but I loved Orisson. I've done that trek twice. The first time SJPP to Roncesvalles, the second time I stopped at Orisson. First, you don't NEED ,to begin walking at 7:30. Rather enjoy a nice b'fast and leave around 10. Get to Orisson in time for lunch, a shower, a beverage, maybe a nap, AND then enjoy a great family style meal with 30 of your close friend. Many of the folks we met in Orisson continued to be our Camino buddies. It's a great way to start. It is also a good way to break up one of the toughest part of the Camino. Relax and remember it is your Camino
Bob
I’d qualify John’s post above with the observation that many pilgrims will find the climb to Orisson to be demanding but doable, but also enough for the first day of the Camino. The group dinner at Orisson is warm-hearted and a good send off for the Way. But for walkers of average or less than average condition, the day’s hike to Roncesvalles may be draining and exhausting instead of invigorating and satisfying. John may have found the hike to Orisson easy enough for him, but I think it is a bit misleading to suggest that others, especially the ill-prepared, would not benefit from a night at Orisson and a chance to test their abilities before the longer trek to Roncesvalles.Ask yourself: do you really need to stay in Orisson? When you set out from St Jean you will arrive in Orisson in two hours or less (it took me 1 hour and 40 minutes). Most pilgrims leave St Jean between 6:30am and 7:30am so if staying in Orisson you will have a very long day to contend with. The average time from St Jean to Roncesvalles is 6 hours 25 minutes. Don't waste your time by staying in Orisson. Stop there for a coffee but then keep on keepin' on!
Same here -- I booked for September 7.Buen Camino Everyone. I’ve looked through the many previous treads in booking at Orisson and I can’t find the specific answer I’m looking for.
I went to the Orisson site, tried to prebook a bed for September 3rd. They sent the email with the PayPal link and I paid through PayPal, I received an email from PayPal with my receipt but I never got any confirmation email from Orisson.
My question is, do they even send a confirmation via email or do you just show them the PayPal receipt? I wondered because all the post on here say they take forever to get back to you but they were all taking about the invoice (It did indeed come to my junk mail folder! Thank you forum members for alerting me to that)
So is there a confirmation email from Orisson and I just have to wait (it’s been 17days since I made the payment) or is the PayPal receipt all you get and I’m waiting for an email that’s never going to come? What do you show them at Orisson to prove you have a booking? Thanks everyone!
That's my plan!!Or DON’T be a pilgrim who wakes up so early, have a leisurely breakfast, check out the parts of SJPdP that others miss as they race out of town, take a nice slow stroll up the hill, and arrive in Orisson stress-free and relaxed, knowing that you have a delightful communal dinner ahead of you!
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