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More snow is forecast in the next few days, but there is no snow warning yet. http://www.aemet.es/es/eltiempo/prediccion/municipios/orreaga-roncesvalles-id31211Hi viranani - i'll be starting my first camino 10 days from now will be arriving in SJPP. Is this a picture from the Napoleon route or is that still closed at this point? Just curious what route I'll be taking when I get there! Buen camino!
Loved seeing your post and photo. One word of caution about sending your boots ahead, the current satellite photos of Spain show snow covered mountains in Galicia and that means some more potentially treacherous descents for you 20+ days from now.Writing from Zubiri...intended to go further but the feet went on strike!
For those of you starting in the next few days, please be aware that there's still quite a bit of snow up there, from a bit below Ibaneta to well past Roncevalles. Mostly it's rotten but there are icy patchrs. Taking the road's the best bet between Ibaneta and Roncevalles. Walking poles prevented several face plants...I was glad to have them.
The big red Xs on the map from the pilgrim's Office in SJPP are there for a good reason...it would be 'interesting' up there!
It was actually quite gorgeous. But my hiking boots are soon headed by post to SdC. It felt like I was walking on bare bones coming down to Zubiri...
May you all be happy and safe out there!
I had that experience on the Salvador, when all the waymarks vanished and I was up to my hips in drifts.
Good maps and a compass put me right.
I have done both the Baztan and Salvador. Baztan awed me completely (despite some dismal weather).......Salvador did not disappoint either - might have impressed me even more if I had not already done the Baztan - they are first equal favourites for me (Primitivo comes in next....and any day on the Voie de la Nive or Frances or Finisterre route is a good day!)Interestingly enough, I planning to switch from Frances to Salvadore after Leon and I hope it can compared with the Baztan.
Hi DM Syracuse, I am planning to start on the 19th from SjPDP. Where are you arriving from? I am coming from Pamplona.Hi viranani - i'll be starting my first camino 10 days from now will be arriving in SJPP. Is this a picture from the Napoleon route or is that still closed at this point? Just curious what route I'll be taking when I get there! Buen camino!
Hi DM Syracuse, I am planning to start on the 19th from SjPDP. Where are you arriving from? I am coming from Pamplona.
I still don't understand this mania about starting in SJPP!I spoke yesterday with a hospitalero from Roncesvalles. He says unless your trip originates in France, don't bother driving from Spain over the mountain, just to turn around and walk back into Spain the next day. When the weather is bad, there is no scenery to see, just snow and slush. Walking along the road route is less-than safe. And it's a myth that starting in St. Jean is more "official" or "authentic."
Yeah, it's beautiful when the weather is clear. But this time of year, in the current weather, it's not advisable.
If you can get to Pamplona, start walking from there.
Start at Le Puy en Velay, then. You won't regret it!I want to start as far back as I can.
I know Falcon but for some reason I'm not drawn to start from Le Puy. I think it's the having to book every night.Start at Le Puy en Velay, then. You won't regret it!
For myself coming all the way from Australia. I want to start as far back as I can.
I still don't understand this mania about starting in SJPP!
Buen camino
Take Care
I'll be starting the camino on April 9th from SJPP
Looking forward to this info.
Starting from SJPP on 04.09
Buen camino
Someone posted on the American Pilgrims on the Camino facebook page a couple of days ago (the 29th) that the Napoleon Route was closed due to deep snow. Is there a place online that one can get up to date information about conditions?
I don't think anyone wants to make you feel bad. It's just kinda hard to make sense of some things, when you live nearby and don't have so much invested.
They should, for sure. However, a lot of lessons swirl around, and one of them is how unnecessary arbitrary constraints are. They may have just been trying to convey the value of a less competitive and driven camino.one of the first things anyone who's walked a Camino would learn is to broaden their horizons
Try this web site with prognosis for Roncesvalles as it can be more accurate (closer & less hight difference) than SJPdP:Someone posted on the American Pilgrims on the Camino facebook page a couple of days ago (the 29th) that the Napoleon Route was closed due to deep snow. Is there a place online that one can get up to date information about conditions?
I still don't understand this mania about starting in SJPP!
It may be hard, but I would have thought one of the first things anyone who's walked a Camino would learn is to broaden their horizons. I guess not all pilgrims achieve this which is a huge shame.
I still don't understand this mania about starting in SJPP!
Good maps and a compass put me right. Thank you, Girl Scouts of America!
For myself coming all the way from Australia. I want to start as far back as I can.
I still don't understand this mania about starting in SJPP!
Try living in Australia then. I chose to start in SJPP because its beautiful, and I've always wanted to see the Pyrenees. Also, because it took me three planes and two buses to get to this lovely corner of the world I am going to make the most of it.
Pilgrims should not be made to feel like idiots just because they want to start their walk in SJPP. I walked it, I survived it and it was spectacular.
@Thornley
If i can recommend a warm up get the train from Biarritz to St Palais or Dax, the oldest towns in the Basque and take the 3-4 days to StJPDP you will fly over the top.
Coming from oz, what about getting the TGV from CDG to Dax? Looks easier than flying to Biarritz then bus or train from Bayonne.
So about the snow which is what this post is about. The Napoleon Route. It is open and I walked it today. Still some snow buy not deep and had packed where people have walked. About 2 km of snow, but not all at once. The folks at Refuge Orrison, flattened out some of the worst spots. Better take trekking poles as it is slippery in some places.
Buen Camino peregrinaIt's from the Valcarce Rte. Conditions change, so in 10 days it'll be different. Please listen to and heed the advice you get from the Pilgrim's Office in SJPP. And go with the flow!
Take care out there, everyone...May we all go well and keep well.
Ta ta..Going off-line now til Santiago, hurrah!
YES (from a fellow Aussie)Try living in Australia then. I chose to start in SJPP because its beautiful, and I've always wanted to see the Pyrenees. Also, because it took me three planes and two buses to get to this lovely corner of the world I am going to make the most of it.
Pilgrims should not be made to feel like idiots just because they want to start their walk in SJPP. I walked it, I survived it and it was spectacular.
Today is my last day on the Camino Baztan and will stay in Pamplana for 2 days. On Sunday I will start on the Frances.
I had a fabulous week starting in Bayonne, solitude, silence, fantastic weather and beautifull nature.
VN Walking, i appreciate you taking the time to offer kind advice but i am competely befuddled - i don't believe i have asked any questions on this thread about snow/weather in June/July - i have walked the CF and the CPort in June/July so am somewhat familiar with that climate. I have asked many questions in other threads about a snow/winter CF as i am planning to walk one at some stage, but your post has caught me off guard. Thankyou anyway!It was snowy then, it's snowy again now, but by June or July, the main moisture will likely be sweat, so no worries, @katie@camino. Just take enough to drink!
And there's a ton of good advice here on the Forum, from all quarters. But Reb knows more about the various Camino than many of us have forgotten. Besides being one of those wonderful people who truly walks her talk.
If snow is a concern, follow this example...I've since walked this way and it was everything @DutchHiker says and more. It's fantastic.
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