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Er, yes. I certainly see it as such an opportunity. Among many other opportunities.some people view their Camino as an opportunity to go do something on their own.
What do others think?
I agree with this. I was also slightly annoyed by the article. I am sure there are some that do walk as a way to get away from a spouse for a while. But I don’t think choosing to walk alone is an indication that it is the person’s motivation. And if it is, there isn’t anything wrong with that, by the way.Er, yes. I certainly see it as such an opportunity. Among many other opportunities.
But I do not recognize myself in any of the stereotypes described. The article left me feeling quite annoyed.
Well, I'm definitely going to be away from my wife for 40ish days and before this the longest we've ever been a part is about 6 days. However, I haven't ever once considered this trip as some sort of sabbatical or anything. I'll keep in touch with her and the kids but it just isn't possible for us to go somewhere together without the kids. So, she had a couple places she wanted to go this past summer so I watched the kids and I'm doing the Camino in 2023. It works for us. We are taking a trip together with the kids next month so we're still doing most things together!An interesting article in the Guardian, https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-six-weeks-the-case-for-a-marriage-sabbatical
Some of the comments on the article suggested that some people view their Camino as an opportunity to go do something on their own.
What do others think?
I'll be walking in May as well. I wish my wife could go with me but she can't. It's totally cool to do things separately without it meaning you are trying to be away from your spouse!I agree with this. I was also slightly annoyed by the article. I am sure there are some that do walk as a way to get away from a spouse for a while. But I don’t think choosing to walk alone is an indication that it is the person’s motivation. And if it is, there isn’t anything wrong with that, by the way.
In May I will be walking alone. I am not trying to be away from my husband and my motivation to walk has nothing to do with him or our relationship.
And I hate the insinuation that couples should be together at all times and if they aren’t we need to analyze their motives.
It's also totally cool if you sometimes want to be away from your spouse.It's totally cool to do things separately without it meaning you are trying to be away from your spouse!
I don't care what anybody does. I just said it doesn't automatically mean that's why ppl are doing. If it is, that's fine. The article makes silly assumptions.It's also totally cool if you sometimes want to be away from your spouse.
I agree. I was expanding on what you were saying.I don't care what anybody does. I just said it doesn't automatically mean that's why ppl are doing. If it is, that's fine. The article makes silly assumptions
LOL... like others who have replied - I agree that this article was annoying! But I totally agree with AnneO on this statement! I think there are people who believe couples must do everything together - and if they don't - there is something wrong. Well, if that works for you and your significant other - then great. But WHY must we do everything together to prove we are happy in our marriage? Or to BE happy in our marriage? I think before I got married I just assumed that we would do everything together - but with kids and dogs and a house to run - and different work schedules where our vacation time often isn't approved at the same time - it just hasn't worked out that way. I started working for my kids school district and that gave me summers off to do things with them. But my husband's time off is always in a different season. Now - I look forward to travelling solo much of the time and yet - once in a while we will plan a trip together. It works for us. It is probably why our marriage has lasted as long as it has. We both have "US" time, "Family" time, and "ME" time. It is wonderful. Especially for me - I have more time off each year than he does! haha. Like I said before - the Camino does offer a Sabbatical from marriage and other obligations - but I don't think most of us are doing it "to get away" from our spouse or to decide whether or not to remain married. It is just a break from the real life obligations and the people we leave behind at home (all of them - not just our spouse). And absence can make the heart grow fonder! Hubby and I are often closer when one of us is returning from a vacation.And I hate the insinuation that couples should be together at all times and if they aren’t we need to analyze their motives.
You are not missing anything @Robo , indeed the article does not mention the Camino. It talks about sabbaticals in relationships in a general way.I must be missing something. There is no mention of the Camino in the article that I could see.
The simple answer is no, I don't see the Camino as a sabbatical from my marriage. While my wife and I might be apart, just as we are when she takes time to travel with her daughter, we are not taking a sabbatical from our marriage. It is still there, and given modern communications technology, we still talk to each other every day.An interesting article in the Guardian, https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-six-weeks-the-case-for-a-marriage-sabbatical
Some of the comments on the article suggested that some people view their Camino as an opportunity to go do something on their own.
What do others think?
Having time on my own was certainly the case for me (married 34 years and I had just retired at 59). I didn’t see it as a marriage sabbatical per se, however, I’d always secretly wanted to walk the Camino alone, even though my husband and I had talked of walking it together one day. We have a history of always having a lot of together time (w kids especially) but also a lot of separate time, including mini vacations apart, me with “the girls” and him with his “buddies”. It has always made for interesting stories to tell each other and has allowed us to grow separately while still being together. I was away for 6 weeks on my Camino Francés this spring-summer and there was zero expectation that I had to check in specifically, though I did sporadically. He could see my Facebook and Instagram posts along w everyone else. It was very freeing. And seeing each other on my return felt very rejuvenating, and I had lots of stories to tell.An interesting article in the Guardian, https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-six-weeks-the-case-for-a-marriage-sabbatical
Some of the comments on the article suggested that some people view their Camino as an opportunity to go do something on their own.
What do others think?
I totally agree with you. I started to get annoyed as soon as I found out that journalist Celia Walden was married to Pierce Morgan. A man among many media "personalities" who I personally am mystified why anyone would care in any manner, shape or form anything he or so many others like him has to say. Of course the first person that reads this may say how love the guy or who are you to judge. Just my opinion. Breaks in marriages or any relationship or job can be very beneficial. When it comes to a relationship break it is up to the two parties involved to determine for themselves the parameters and length of any break. It is no one's business but their own. As for people using the camino for this purpose, it is a personal choice that really deserves no scrutiny or opinion whatsoever. The only thing that would matter regarding this fact is if one pilgrim graces another with an unburdening of problems, hopes desires or whatever brought them to pilgrimage in the first place. All the receiving Pilgrim needs to do is connect, listen, love and acceptance.Er, yes. I certainly see it as such an opportunity. Among many other opportunities.
But I do not recognize myself in any of the stereotypes described. The article left me feeling quite annoyed.
The Guardian article that @DoughnutANZ linked and that annoyed me was written by Zoe Williams. She referenced another article by Celia Walden, which I haven't bothered to read, so it hasn't annoyed me.journalist Celia Walden was married to Pierce Morgan
Interesting how people view/judge things... I've done 3 caminos, 2 of them by myself and the first one at the request of my hubby with our 16-year-old at that time. And just this past weekend my hubby was telling some friends that I come a different person after my Caminos. A friend chimed in and said we (wives) come refreshed and ready to serve again sort of idea after we take some days for ourselves.An interesting article in the Guardian, https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-six-weeks-the-case-for-a-marriage-sabbatical
Some of the comments on the article suggested that some people view their Camino as an opportunity to go do something on their own.
What do others think?
Sounds like a rather chauvinistic comment to me...just saying.And just this past weekend my hubby was telling some friends that I come a different person after my Caminos. A friend chimed in and said we (wives) come refreshed and ready to serve again sort of idea after we take some days for ourselves.
Interesting how people view/judge things... I've done 3 caminos, 2 of them by myself and the first one at the request of my hubby with our 16-year-old at that time. And just this past weekend my hubby was telling some friends that I come a different person after my Caminos. A friend chimed in and said we (wives) come refreshed and ready to serve again sort of idea after we take some days for ourselves.
Yes, our words can be very revealing at times, or they can be careless, or both. Reading between the lines is often necessary but it can be hazardousI find it interesting how we each bring our own meaning to words and phrases that we read.
So true! What my husband actually said was, who the f. are you and what have you done with my wife!I find it interesting how we each bring our own meaning to words and phrases that we read.
I agree completely and that is why face to face communication especially if all parties listen can often quickly dissipate misunderstandings.I find it interesting how we each bring our own meaning to words and phrases that we read.
My partner and I have an old dog that we do not want to board while away, so we generally vacation separately. I did not see my Camino as a sabbatical, it was something I wanted to do for years and I've always held the opinion that it should be done alone, without a support system in place. We messaged each other every day and face-timed a few times a week. I toured around Spain for another few weeks after walking Camino.An interesting article in the Guardian, https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-six-weeks-the-case-for-a-marriage-sabbatical
Some of the comments on the article suggested that some people view their Camino as an opportunity to go do something on their own.
What do others think?
Not a running away, rather a walking towardsAn interesting article in the Guardian, https://www.theguardian.com/lifeand...-six-weeks-the-case-for-a-marriage-sabbatical
Some of the comments on the article suggested that some people view their Camino as an opportunity to go do something on their own.
What do others think?
I will await your return with anticipation.LOL!!!! " - Sabbatical" - I never thought about approaching the topic with my wife with that word in the conversation. I'll go mention the idea to her and get back to you!
It was helpful in many ways to be undisturbed by the common duties. In the daily life you do not have the time or chance to really reflect and straighten the strains of the everyday life.
I for one did not see anything you said as being some euphemism for starting a new sexual relationship outside of your current one. And quite frankly - on my two Camino's - I really didn't see signs that people were using the Camino this way at all. I mean - there was the occasional older married guy who was probably "hooking up" with the pretty younger lady he was hanging out with (I use that scenario only because it is what I seemed to be witnessing with 2 "Camino couples") - and I don't know for sure if they WERE "hooking up"... But, for the most, part I didn't find people on the Camino to be "on the prowl" looking to "hook up" with others in a sexual way at all. Lots of close friendships being formed - but for the most part - platonic in nature. Just a lot of people getting to know other people! And lots of inner reflection all around. Some of which might have been with regards to marriage and family - or might have been something totally different.Again, just to be really clear, this is not some euphemism for starting a new sexual relationship outside of your current one.
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