William Garza
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- Camino Frances, The Jakobsweg
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Thats what i was wondering about, i figured callouses would slow down blister formation as well as getting the feet ready by developing them -strength and use wise..Unless you plan not to wear shoes on the Camino. Wear on your foot what you would when you walk the Camino. Toughen feet in the open doesn't mean the same when enclosed in footwear...
I need to research more!I’d worry that a blister could form below the callous and be harder to deal with.
Would the heat of your boots soften those feet?
I miss the feel of the warm fields under my feet, grew up in a rural areaI have a fond memory of sitting at a table in downtown Fromista, beverage in front of me, watching pilgrims pass, all’s well with my world. And around the corner comes a young male pilgrim, swinging an onion on it’s stalk, a smile on his face, and nothing on his feet.
I think you’d have to do a lot of barefoot walking to toughen up the feet to be strong enough to go the distance. I’m barefoot around home and the farm, but across a country? that would be some feat.
Thats-This is why i came to you wonderful guys, real wisdom!!With age, we suffer a decrease in the natural fat and cartilage padding of the feet, as well as other joints. (Think about your knees and how you probably need a kneeling pad for working on a hard floor, whereas in your youth years ago you didn't.) Last summer I walked for a couple of km in lovely wet sand at the beach. For days afterward, my feet were sore. I don't think that is "training" so much as it is maybe getting used to suffering - I don't believe it helps my feet in any way. I think my training would be better done in a way that does not aggravate my old bones any more than necessary, so I'll be wearing shoes.
the soft sand was murder on my legs
If your legs are suffering, it seems like a good idea to do muscle conditioning - developed through a mix of training.Maybe a mix of sorts to engage all the muscle groups.
Ime glad you guys gave the wisdom..i would have been a grave mistake-in the final iteration...which would have been the walk... i think it saved me from what could be a painfull mistake.If your legs are suffering, it seems like a good idea to do muscle conditioning - developed through a mix of training.
But I don't think that muscle development in the feet is a key factor. We don't have huge muscles in our feet! We have 26 bones and 30 joints in each foot, that need cushioning and support. (But that I am not a medical person.)
So, I train by getting the absolute best shoes and custom orthotics, for comfort and support, and then I walk. A lot.
Huh!? What?? Why???
Don't even think about it.
Just walk and enjoy the darn thing.
You'll have enough to worry about and marvel at without unnecessarily shredding your feet.
I understand that not only can blisters develop under calluses but they are much harder to treat.I’d worry that a blister could form below the callous and be harder to deal with.
Would the heat of your boots soften those feet?
Perhaps you should try minimalist shoes/sandals that encourage the use of more muscles in your feet?My main object is to train the legs/feet to strengthen them using more muscles,joints etc ...engaging them more than shoe only training.
Ay my age I get the screaming ab dabs at the mere mention of suffering!With age, we suffer a decrease in the natural fat and cartilage padding of the feet, as well as other joints. (Think about your knees and how you probably need a kneeling pad for working on a hard floor, whereas in your youth years ago you didn't.) Last summer I walked for a couple of km in lovely wet sand at the beach. For days afterward, my feet were sore. I don't think that is "training" so much as it is maybe getting used to suffering - I don't believe it helps my feet in any way. I think my training would be better done in a way that does not aggravate my old bones any more than necessary, so I'll be wearing shoes.
I got a blister under the hard skin at the back of my heel, due to the insole not being properly in position for a couple of days. As I was not putting pressure on it, it did not bother me, but it was one heck of a big blister. I drained it each evening. Took ages for it to disappear completely, like several weeks.Thats-This is why i came to you wonderful guys, real wisdom!!
I walk every nite here at work and upping the distance.its @8\10ths a mile around the yard so its a few laps! Ill have a lot more miles under the belt before i go.
The advice about blisters Under..the callous got to me..i shudder to imagine the work to fix that!
I havent walked in a while on our shoreline,we have a soft or hard mix from the shore to the dunes, and the soft sand was murder on my legs for about a week when shooting Rugby 7s matches..never figured until it was pointed out the unused ,under used muscles were the culprit.
Maybe a mix of sorts to engage all the muscle groups.
I dont want to grow old and miss out on the Caminos
I’ve never gone barefoot for any length of time, but I did spend a month in Namibia in ‘15 wearing sandals pretty much constantly. I found that I developed quite serious heel-cracks and needed to do some fairly serious filing and hard-skin removal.When i was a young person, i would go everywhere unshod in all weathers and conditions.
And my feet were like what a cave dudes would have been..rough,calloused and tough.
I read about blisters and wondered if a tough foot would not hold off blistering?
Been mulling bare footed walk training to get my Chevrolegs ready to be ready
What say you?
I got one under the hard skin on the outside of my foot toward the back. Was really painful and impossible to deal with. Usually burst it, antiseptic, dress, double/treble dress over next few days, sorted. No, just patience and pain!I understand that not only can blisters develop under calluses but they are much harder to treat.
If you plan to walk barefoot, train that way.When i was a young person, i would go everywhere unshod in all weathers and conditions.
And my feet were like what a cave dudes would have been..rough,calloused and tough.
I read about blisters and wondered if a tough foot would not hold off blistering?
Been mulling bare footed walk training to get my Chevrolegs ready to be ready
What say you?
I realised where my question went south..but the invaluable info kept coming so I let it go.If you plan to walk barefoot, train that way.
If you plan to walk in foortwear, train in your intended footwear...
Simple
Is walking barefoot a good idea? - now that is another matter...
I will do that! Waters at 40f right now because of hard freeze..but thats what makes it fun!Walking on the beach in a few inches of salt water is a good way to toughen up the feet without getting the hard sole William.
Shoes were invented for a reason...I have a fond memory of sitting at a table in downtown Fromista, beverage in front of me, watching pilgrims pass, all’s well with my world. And around the corner comes a young male pilgrim, swinging an onion on it’s stalk, a smile on his face, and nothing on his feet.
I think you’d have to do a lot of barefoot walking to toughen up the feet to be strong enough to go the distance. I’m barefoot around home and the farm, but across a country? that would be some feat.
I’m sure the fashion industry had a lot to do with some of the torture devices invented and called footwear, but I take your point.Shoes were invented for a reason...
My mother-in-law is(was) a native of Namibia and swore that neem oil (introduced by Indians working in the Skeleton coast) were the GoTo ointment for many maladies including dry skin.I’ve never gone barefoot for any length of time, but I did spend a month in Namibia in ‘15 wearing sandals pretty much constantly. I found that I developed quite serious heel-cracks and needed to do some fairly serious filing and hard-skin removal.
Being actually barefoot would perhaps abrade and remove hard skin?
There's less than you think, and most of the camino is amongst fields. Where I live I tend to put flipflops on in the city centre so as not to look like a tramp. It is true though I end up looking at the ground ahead of me more than I would normally want to.Mind that Caminos go also through cities and industrial areas. Lots of motor oil, broken glass, and other things you don't really want to touch with your bare skin.
I don't have to think how much of what there is, I know. There's enough. And "fields" quite often are rocky mountain paths too. No problem with proper footwear but I wouldn't go there even in running shoes. Well, some people do, their choice. But when we discuss things we better give a truthful picture to those who are in planning stages of their camino.There's less than you think, and most of the camino is amongst fields.
Most of the comments that are negative about walking a Camino barefoot seem to be from people with a probable habit of wearing shoes and therefore don't know any different from their own experience.I don't have to think how much of what there is, I know. There's enough. And "fields" quite often are rocky mountain paths too. No problem with proper footwear but I wouldn't go there even in running shoes. Well, some people do, their choice. But when we discuss things we better give a truthful picture to those who are in planning stages of their camino.
That's a good one! I actually did some firewalking as a teenager, accidentally, but still counts, right?Most of the comments that are negative about walking a Camino barefoot seem to be from people with a probable habit of wearing shoes and therefore don't know any different from their own experience.
It is correct that if I usually wear shoes then without extensive preparation then I will have many difficulties. I do usually wear shoes these days (or Jandals) and I would not attempt walking a Camino barefoot.
As a child, however, for the first seven years of my life the only time that I wore a pair of shoes was for my Confirmation. My feet were deeply calloused and I could and did walk and run anywhere. On gravel, through thorns, on hot tarmac and everywhere else my fancy took me. I did sometimes need to dig out a thorn with a stick or an old nail but nothing slowed me down and none of it really injured my feet.
I remember when we moved to NZ and some kids at my new school tried to bully me for being from Fiji and tried calling me a fire walker. So one day I took a packet of matches to school and during the lunch break I gathered the chief bullies together and dared them to do what I did.
I lit two matches and held them to the sole of one foot and then did the same to the other foot. I then invited them to do the same. None of them would and the bullying stopped.
I mention this story to illustrate that our feet are quite capable of taking us pretty much anywhere, without the need for shoes, IF we prepare them correctly.
There is nowhere on the Camino Frances that can't be walked in bare feet if our feet are properly prepared, including through the snow.
When I run I can easily land on my forfoot, walking is different. I looks a little bit silly to land on the forefoot when you walk.Hi all, my first post ever. At last I can offer something.
I got into barefoot walking to help recover after a broken leg, and I go barefoot whenever I can, so in the UK March to October is warm enough. I walked the Dales Way last year. This year I've decided to do the Camino... here's my advice.
You have to train your feet every spring after a winter of being shod - this isn't just newbies, everyone's feet soften.
Start slowly. Grass and soft earth are nice, and grade up to smooth tarmac/paving (careful where it gets hot like maybe Spain in August). Eventually you will be able to deal with dirt tracks, gravel and even woodland paths with woodland detruitus everywhere.
Don't attempt to walk a full day, let alone 30, without being toughened up already.
City streets are variable for safety. Here in the UK there is very little to bother the feet in town, people clear up after dogs etc., In Germany though there is broken glass everywhere because of drinking in the street, so I had to give up while in Leipzig last September. Also, best to carry flipflops to go into shops to avoid people moaning.
Unless this is a penance you don't have to do it all barefoot, take trainers for when it gets too much. It's fun not a lifestyle.
Your gait will change - I land with my feet flat, like walking on ice. Be careful as your feet don't have the same grip as walking shoes. Don't try and keep up with the others if you can't. You will eventually, but you have to take it easy on more challenging surfaces or you will tear your feet or slip - all my incidents have been through carelessness in the early days.
The absolute worst thing is thorns. You can generally spot broken glass, but if you spot a thorn bush be really really careful. Stick to paths in woods for this reason. They are a nightmare to dig out.
Things to take:
- socks and shoes
- flip flops
- cocoa butter or some other moisturiser (heels get calloused - apply daily)
- a nail brush to clean your feet, they will get filthy and stained
- (most important thing) tweezers
- maybe a couple of plasters, your toes may still rub.
I am virtually walking the Camino Francés and I am nearly as far as Burgos by clicking through on Streetview (most of it is there). The surface is mostly flat dirt track with tiny stones, or paved roads/streets. I see no reason not to attempt it, with trainers for when I don't want to.
Good luck
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