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- To Santiago + back
2400 km + 950 nmi
160 days
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:::rolling eyes:::Oi. A regional newspaper reports a few details about the rescue incident on Sunday 24 April (translated by Deep.com): It was a pilgrim who was in the Izandorre shelter with symptoms of mild hypothermia. A 23-year-old citizen of California (USA), she was wearing chancletas [hispanic word for a cheap sandal or flip-flops] despite the fog and snow in the area.
Of course, we here in the forum often tell those from far away and new to all this that the whole Camino Frances can be walked in sandals.
Not hard at all.Some people rely too much on being warned of bad weather by the volunteers of the pilgrim's office or by 'the locals' or by the owner of Orisson or by Camino angels, instead of actively informing themselves, which is not so hard to do.
It seems so obvious. But perhaps many people erroneously believe the Napoleon Route is the camino.Was it worth walking the higher Route Napoleon instead of the lower Valcarlos route on such days with heavy rain/some snow, strong wind gusts, temperatures near freezing point and with zero mountain views ?
Unfortunately all too believable.Unbelievable
Thanks for that. Feels somewhat better now. And as a backup I have bought a busticket 1/5 from SJPDP to RoncesvallesCome to think of it, @svanada, you are in a great position with your night at Borda. I think (not sure) that thunderstorms in this area develop mainly in the afternoon. You might already be in Roncesvalles IF (super big IF) there are any during the day of your walk from Borda. Buen Camino again.
Oi. A regional newspaper reports a few details about the rescue incident on Sunday 24 April (translated by Deep.com): It was a pilgrim who was in the Izandorre shelter with symptoms of mild hypothermia. A 23-year-old citizen of California (USA), she was wearing chancletas [hispanic word for a cheap sandal or flip-flops] despite the fog and snow in the area.
Of course, we here in the forum often tell those from far away and new to all this that the whole Camino Frances can be walked in sandals.
The Valcarlos route is at a much lower altitude. It can be done in one day but some people split it into two and stop in ValcarlosThanks for all the information, everyone. We have moved our departure into more of the shoulder season so this is a great reminder for us to be well prepared-- even if we have to let go of gear later.
Am I correct in understanding that on the Valcarlos route you are much more out of the wind than on Napoleon? That would seem to me to be half the battle.
Also, if due to weather we have to do the Valcarlos route-- is SJPP to Ronc a one day hike or is that too much and it's best split into two days?
I have walked the Valcarlos route twice for it's somewhat gentler first day "out the gate", and its variety of scenery imo. I always spend the night in Valcarlos, walking it in two days as I am never in a rush. It also allows me to arrive in Roncesvalles in plenty of time to secure a bed; especially important in the past before the muni took reservations.The Valcarlos route is at a much lower altitude. It can be done in one day but some people split it into two and stop in Valcarlos
Depending on where you take the measures, the steep section of the Route Napoleon is about, on average, a 10% slope. The steep section of Route Valcarlos appears to be about a 15% slope. Yes, it is much steeper, albeit slightly shorter.Here is a comparison of the two routes, by elevation. As can be seen, the Valcarlos route is lower, but the sting in the tail is the short very steep section just before the end; it seems to me even steeper that the first section between SJPDP and Orisson.
Thanks to @Rick of Rick and Peg for posting this chart, it is very helpful.
One consideration that is rely mentioned is that it's mostly in the shade, which can really make a difference on a warm or hot day. It is pretty steep, but really lovely, as @Camino Chrissy said. Short steps, many times gets you there. Stopping to breathe, and appreciate the surroundings.Yes, it is much steeper, albeit slightly shorter.
... be well prepared-- even if we have to let go of gear later.
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