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Best Camino "tour operator"?
Yes, I have also met several who went with a tour group, and would not do it that way again. What I noticed is that these individuals were not walking with the group when I met them. They were walking solo, with the other group members somewhere behind them. So perhaps those who are part of a group Camino but have a bit more independent spirit are those that mingle with the "general population" on the Camino, and would prefer to do it more independently in the future.We've all met countless Pilgrims on 'tours' who wished they had gone on their own.
I haven't actually met one yet, in 3 Caminos, who was glad they went with a tour.
If there is anyone in Pretoria with Camino experience, it will probably be most helpful to get together.
Hi Starlove,I am planning my first Camino next year and don't want my many uncertainties to talk me out of it!
Thanks very much for the advice, Susan. I think you may be right about getting a guidebook.I would encourage you not to use an organizer. It is likely that they will book you in accommodations that while very nice are not normal pilgrim accommodations possibly off route and only with those using the organizer. They will also charge you $$$. It is really quite easy using the resources here and finding local pilgrims who love to share. If you are a women you can join the Camigas Facebook page and sign up to get a mentor. Also get one of the guidebooks to alleviate your concerns. This should be all you need to just start walking to Santiago.
Many thanks, NorthernLight - I will try that. I joined a Facebook group for South African pilgrims but for whatever technical reason have been unable to post my questions.Google ‘friends of the camino south africa’ and you should find a group that will help you with visa questions and other such details specific to South Africans wanting to do the camino. The link to them might be findable on this forum as well.
Most folks on this site (not all, but the majority) don’t use companies to organize their camino. It really isn’t hard to do it on your own. Think about what you need to know, and use the search function - you’ll find heaps of info. Once you narrow down your questions, you’ll be better able to search and to ask.
Happy planning!
I really appreciate the feedback from you and others. I will definitely make a plan to get a guidebook and see if I can come right that way.I did my first Camino in July and I used an agency because I had only month to plan and didn't know what to expect. But once I entered my first accommodation I regretted it. We were given the worst rooms in most of the hotels (and on the good ones we were told our agency is the best one). Furthermore, the agency also messed up one of my days and haven't I noticed that I would have lost the chance to obtain my Compostela. I did the Portugues Variante Espiritual but I suppose the Frances is as well, if not more, signalised that the Portugues. You can book the hotel, day by day, of your choosing for a third to half of the price you pay for your agency to do it for you. You can use special app maps for your guidance (the tour company also did not send us all the maps. We discovered we had the right to them by talking to other pilgrims who used the same agency, on our third day. By then we had missed the seaside walk). With all the money saved by not using an agency, you can afford to pay any emergency that might happen, and if you don't have an emergency, you can treat yourself at the end of the trip.
Many thanks!This will give you many happy hours of reading (https://www.csjofsa.za.org/).
I do not see a point in a tour company for travelling support, although some of them offer considerable value in terms of historical and cultural content. But you will pay....
Thanks so much for your encouragement. I think the fact that I haven't travelled overseas for 30 years and have never done a trip per se is having a bad affect on my confidence!Hi @Starlove
I understand your hesitancy as I have been planning my own first Camino for next May. There are plenty of resources to arrange everything yourself.
Use www.godalesco.com to get an idea of all the towns/villages between Sarria and Santiago de Compostela, and the distances between them. Armed with that you can determine how far you want (or have) to walk each day.
If you want certainty of where you will sleep you can then use booking.com or other booking sites to arrange accommodation at the intervals you want to walk. These will largely be private accommodation and more expensive than staying in albergues. If you wish to stay at albergues some allow reservations and there is information on this forum about that.
If you want your bag/backpack transported daily you can arrange that too. A number of companies including the Spanish post office (Correos) will do this for a small fee (if you know where you will be staying).
Overall it is much more economical to do this yourself, and as you don’t want to walk in a group and certainly don’t need a guide makes more sense this way.
Good luck with your planning.
cheers
Glenda
Yes, this is kind of my thinking... I see that Fresco get very good reviews as well. I just have to be careful that if I do still go with a tour company (against the advice of so many others who have responded to my post!), I don't choose a cheap option that ends up giving me a bad experience.Before I plucked up the courage to do my own thing, I used this company:
I had a great time with them. Their picnics are delish and the fact that they have two guides and a support vehicle sets them apart from others. Last year I also did their Andalusian Tour.Fresco Tours - Camino de Santiago Tours
We are a Spanish tour operator specializing in Camino de Santiago Tours through Galicia, Portugal and other parts of Spain.frescotours.com
Not a cheap way to do the Camino, but definitely value for money. Going with a tour group gives you the confidence to go alone next time, and it informs you about how far you can walk and how much you can carry.
Thanks so much for your encouragement. I think the fact that I haven't travelled overseas for 30 years and have never done a trip per se is having a bad affect on my confidence!
I really appreciate your detailed feedback. What I am finding a little confusing is that with Marly you can opt to do a self-guided tour, which I took to mean they make all the logistical arrangements but you walk on your own. I don't have health issues, it is really just concern about getting the logistics wrong that has me in a bit of a tizz! I will follow all the links you and others have so kindly provided and see where I end up. I am self-employed and doing the organisation myself will also mean that I can plan my dates around my work rather than being tied in to tour company dates.Hi @Starlove .
I can quite understand how many people on their first Camino feel a degree of 'security' by using a tour operator.
I'm sure you'll get lots of suggestions here.
Just be aware that the Camino from Sarria, is probably the easiest of all in terms of 'Logistics'.
There are loads of places to stay and eat ad lots of other friendly Pilgrims around you. Lots!
Maybe to give you a sense of how easy it really is, read this old thread of mine.
And then if you feel you still need a tour company. Go for it
You'll probably get others here trying to get you to 'go it alone'.
It's only because they know in most cases, it will give you a nicer experience.
We've all met countless Pilgrims on 'tours' who wished they had gone on their own.
I haven't actually met one yet, in 3 Caminos, who was glad they went with a tour.
Although one did say, it 'got her' to go........
But she really disliked it.
Of course if you have mobility issues or other health issues that make a tour company a better option. Then for you.........it is.
Do your research well before deciding....
Thank you!I think most of us were in the same boat on our first Camino, I didn't even know there were tour companies for the Camino until we encountered them along the way. My advise for what its worth is to book in Sarria for your first night and then book along the way as you go.
Happy planning and Buen Camino.
That will be perfect!! Thank you so much.The Confraternity of St James in South Africa will be putting on several workshops in Pretoria and Johannesburg in January and February. They are very informative and I strongly recommend that you go to one: https://www.csjofsa.za.org/camino-library/ and look at the panel on the righthand side.
E.g.:
Upcoming Camino Workshops
Pretoria
Date: 15th February 2020
Time: 9am to 1pm
Where: To be advised
Fee for Venue: R50
(There is an email address provided.)
Buen Camino!
Jill (in Sabie, Mpumalanga)
I have been overwhelmed by the responses to my post and all the encouragement. Many thanks, especially for the details of accommodation. I have no concerns about the walking and distances, it is more about the logistics so I particularly appreciated and enjoyed your comment about Spain being a civilised country and full of nice people, lol!Hi Starlove,
On my Camino's I've met a couple of pilgrims from South Africa. So far: all very nice people. And I even got to talk some 'Afrikaans' with them. Although I speak Dutch and not Afrikaans, we managed to communicate very well.
Of course, I don't know what your uncertainties are and how important they are to you. So, if booking through a travel organization makes you feel comfortable enough to walk a camino, then that's Your Camino.
But maybe, just maybe, I can relieve you of some of your worries:
Take a look at this overview (in kilometers). It will give you a general idea of the options. And new albergues are being opened all the time, so the number of accomodations is increasing year by year (to accomodate the growing number of pilgrims).
- Spain is a civilised country, with lots of nice people.
- Between Sarria and Santiago there will be lots of other pilgrims who are happy to help you (if you need it). If you sit by the side of the road, every couple of minutes there will be pilgrims passing you.
- The distances between towns is very short -> the distances between places to sleep is very short.
- Considering the number of places to sleep it might be possible to get around without making reservations in advance. Or to make reservations on a day-to-day basis.
- There are restaurants and bars every couple of kilometers.
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But if you prefer to book in advance throug a travel organization: there are plenty. I've listed a couple for you (please note: I've never used a travel agency on my Camino's, so I don't know about them). If you google, you'll find even more. Since they are all offering to take you from Sarria to Santiago, you might end up in the same hostel/hotel/albergue anyway.
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Enjoy your planning. Buen Camino.
I would encourage you not to use an organizer. It is likely that they will book you in accommodations that while very nice are not normal pilgrim accommodations possibly off route and only with those using the organizer. They will also charge you $$$. It is really quite easy using the resources here and finding local pilgrims who love to share. If you are a women you can join the Camigas Facebook page and sign up to get a mentor. Also get one of the guidebooks to alleviate your concerns. This should be all you need to just start walking to Santiago.
If unreal layback want a tour operator try Iberian Adventures, based in SpainHello everyone, I am planning my first Camino next year and don't want my many uncertainties to talk me out of it! I don't want to walk in a group but would like to make all the arrangements through one of the organisers. Marlycamino get very good reviews on the web and have a walk from Sarrio (117km) in the first week of June which I am considering. My first question is whether they would be a good choice. I also have a number of questions about the the "before and after" for SA pilgrims, e.g. which airline and connecting city to use, getting back to Madrid from Santiago, where to get a Shengen visa, etc.
If there is anyone in Pretoria with Camino experience, it will probably be most helpful to get together.
Nice!On my very first camino, I had arrived in Paris with the idea of heading to the French/Spanish border to start walking. I went to a bookstore where I found a guidebook for the route starting in Le Puy, which was just a couple hours from Paris by train. So I went to Le Puy and started walking. Despite everyone telling me I should book my nightly accommodations, I did not. It all worked out fine.
My point being, try not to over-think things. You’ll need a visa and a flight. Everything after that is just details. The camino is a leap of faith that things will be fine, let the universe unfold as it will, with patience, calm ... and some cash in reserve for those days when you have to spend more than anticipated.
Make a plan, then life happens while we are doing so.
Thanks! That is kind of what I have had in mind but based on various other posts have started considering the advantages of making those arrangements myself in order to be more flexible.Another "in between choice" would be a self guided tour company where you walk independently, and the company acts like a security blanket. They provide mapping, book sleeping arrangements and baggage transport if needed. Sloways is a well known one, but I have no experience with them. I am thinking about using Viadelsole for Italy walk next summer, just because I enjoy not having to deal with my pack!
you can opt to do a self-guided tour, which I took to mean they make all the logistical arrangements but you walk on your own.
There ARE virtually no logistics to be handled! Walk, eat, sleep. Do you really want someone to make all your dinner arrangements for you in advance? Spain is safe and civilized, there is extensive pilgrim infrastructure, and there will be hundreds of like-minded people around you. You turn to one of them to ask any questions you might have. If they don't know, you will have company and the next person you ask will surely know the answer.it is more about the logistics
Yes, very true. Once the visa and flights are in place, make a reservation for Sarria on booking.com, and maybe a reservation for the last night before flying home. When those bookends are in place, you can consider where you might stay in between and fill in the blanks if you want.You’ll need a visa and a flight. Everything after that is just details.
Spain is safe and civilized
Once the visa and flights are in place
In June from Sarria you CANNOT walk alone however you will love the company of so many your age .you walk on your own.
The transfer of luggage is a very big business , and is so easy .it is more about the logistics
All great advice - thank you.There ARE virtually no logistics to be handled! Walk, eat, sleep. Do you really want someone to make all your dinner arrangements for you in advance? Spain is safe and civilized, there is extensive pilgrim infrastructure, and there will be hundreds of like-minded people around you. You turn to one of them to ask any questions you might have. If they don't know, you will have company and the next person you ask will surely know the answer.
Yes, very true. Once the visa and flights are in place, make a reservation for Sarria on booking.com, and maybe a reservation for the last night before flying home. When those bookends are in place, you can consider where you might stay in between and fill in the blanks if you want.
Oh, this is fantastic information, Thornley - thank you very much!In June from Sarria you CANNOT walk alone however you will love the company of so many your age .
The transfer of luggage is a very big business , and is so easy .
A good day pack for personal items and a back back or carry on language case to go ahead.
Thats all you will need ........carry on.
Most [ 99%] of what Robbo said is correct , someone who resides in Sydney cannot be 100% Starlove.
If you have time please stop in Leon for a night or two.
Its a beautiful smallish city and will be full of pilgrims .
Stay in the middle near Cathedral
By the time you leave there you will have already a feel of the comradeship that lies ahead.
Bus from Madrid airport to Leon is so simple however we prefer the train.
We are Qatar lovers.
Qatar QR 1364 leaves Tambo @ 1.45 arrives in Madrid @ 8.15am
Stop over 2 hrs in Doha [ unbelievable airport] .
The beauty of this is each flight is only 7.30 hrs and its in the 350/900 .
This plane is the best to travel on by a country mile , clean air.
You return home from Madrid @ 4.45pm
Cost for return is $1000 Oz.
You could fly to Madrid from SDC @ 9.00am ..arriving @ 10.30 .
Plenty of time before flying out .....Madrid is a big airport so this will work out well.
Now you do me a favour ;
Booking . com or Expedia .com and look for good private accommodation in Pensions/Hotels or Casa Rurals.
Just put in any town listed by Andrew above and see what you get for the day you want.
My wife has a ball doing this , all refundable until just before take off.
Keep us posted and if you want advice on any place / town / village please ask on this forum.
Please do not waste the money on a tour guide , spend it on good accommodation or Premium Economy with Air France from home.
Any problems ask , its that simple.
You will love the planning and you will not be alone once you land.
Backpacks going to one place only at the Madrid airport.
Keep well
Just interested to know why you say you cannot walk alone from Sarrio in June? Do you mean it is very busy? Since I am leaning more and more to not going with a tour operator, I have my eyes set on some time in the first two weeks of May? Would that be less busy? This is not to say I am averse to meeting others along the way! I just want to the option of walking alone when I feel like it.Oh, this is fantastic information, Thornley - thank you very much!
Just interested to know why you say you cannot walk alone from Sarrio in June? Do you mean it is very busy? Since I am leaning more and more to not going with a tour operator, I have my eyes set on some time in the first two weeks of May? Would that be less busy? This is not to say I am averse to meeting others along the way! I just want to the option of walking alone when I feel like it.
Just interested to know why you say you cannot walk alone from Sarrio in June? Do you mean it is very busy? Since I am leaning more and more to not going with a tour operator, I have my eyes set on some time in the first two weeks of May? Would that be less busy? This is not to say I am averse to meeting others along the way! I just want to the option of walking alone when I feel like it.
Thank you! You are pretty much confirming what a number of friendly people on the forum have said.Do not walk the Frances with a tour, especially for a section like Sarria to Santiago which only takes about a week at the most.
Get a guidebook and a Spanish SIM card for your mobile. That is all you need. Shows you how to get there, and allows you to make reservations.
ultreia
Saving your very sensible advice about how to avoid the "conga line" in my planning reference document. Many thanks.Yes, it will be very busy, as others have mentioned. However, you can also find plenty of ways to walk by yourself if you wish some solitude*. Examples- leave a bit later than others, and/or stay in villages between the standard guidebook end stages. Every albergue, hostel, inn, five-star hotel can arrange daily pack transfer, and from Sarria on it's only about 3 euros per bag/day. Enjoy!!
*Except for the first morning out of Sarria. That will probably be a conga line. But it spreads out after that, especially if you stop either slightly before or after Portomarin.
Yip! This is pretty much the conclusion I have come to thanks to all the wonderful contributions from this forum.If you don’t carry a bunch of useless junk, unneeded stuff, you don’t need to worry about logistics.
keep it simple, small, lightweight.
read all you can on THIS forum about packing for a Camino.
I think you will be happier doing it on your own vs tour organizer/groups.
Your planning. Your traveling. Your walk.
You then will reap the wonderful benefits of “I DID IT.”
I met many of the walkers who used rip off touring companies. All felt they missed so much of the Camino.
blessings.
just do it.
Yes, others have said the same. I am so grateful for all the advice and recommendations - what a great forum!You do not need any organiser for the short-form Camino from Sarria. That's just throwing money away to no good purpose.
Organised pilgrimages can be a good idea on some longer Caminos, provided that they offer a combination of the full walking experience with an organisation of hostelry and restaurants etc, but frankly over 100Km it's simply not worth it, and your experience will definitely be more enjoyable on the fly and with strangers, including even if you feel a need to reserve your beds in advance.
And YES you will need to book somewhere to sleep in advance in Sarria, given the nature of your worries. And I think Santiago too.
Good new information, Marbe2. Thank you.Though I read many of the responses, I did not read them all, so it is possible I am repeating info. When you plan your route, be aware that certain times are quite busy on CF..especially from Sarria...May, June and Sept you may find times when occupancy is very limited so plan accordingly. from Ocebriero to SdC baggage service is available all year via Correos. However, other sections start mostly in April and end the last day of October.
Very good to know - thanks!The last 100 km or so, from Sarria, are busiest in July and August when the Spaniards tend to take their vacations. Departures from SJPP are busiest in May and September. So, early May from Sarria should be good. However, try to avoid the first weekend - May 1 (Labour Day) falls on a Friday and is a holiday throughout Europe, so there will be lots of travel that weekend.
Yes, it will be very busy, as others have mentioned. However, you can also find plenty of ways to walk by yourself if you wish some solitude*. Examples- leave a bit later than others, and/or stay in villages between the standard guidebook end stages. Every albergue, hostel, inn, five-star hotel can arrange daily pack transfer, and from Sarria on it's only about 3 euros per bag/day. Enjoy!!
*Except for the first morning out of Sarria. That will probably be a conga line. But it spreads out after that, especially if you stop either slightly before or after Portomarin.
Get a guidebook and a Spanish SIM card for your mobile.
Oh great - thanks!It is not necessary to buy a Spanish SIM card if coming from South Africa (unlike from North America or Australia). Just get the International Roaming activated on your device and the charges while using the phone in Spain are very cheap – about R5 per minute for a call (i.e. 30 euro cents), and about R2 to send an sms.
Great stuff. I am a very early riser so am thinking about leaving earlier than everyone else rather than later!Very good advice, that's what we do from Sarria onwards.
And if you have your accommodation booked a night or two ahead, you don't need to rush. There are lots of ways to book accommodation. Booking.com is probably the easiest. Often we would relax after dinner and see how far we wanted to walk the next day and then start looking for places to stay.
We'd usually roll into our 'night stop' at 3 or 4 pm or later, often having stopped for a nice lunch along the way.
The Camino Portuguese also gets crowded for the last 100 km - after Tui.At the risk of starting up a whole new demand for attention, would anyone recommend the Camino Portugues rather than Frances which I gather gets very crowded after Sarria?
If you are walking the Camino Frances, remember that they have well over a thousand years' experience meeting the logistical needs of pilgrims. A number of them owe their existence to the Camino and the people it brings to Spain.I have been overwhelmed by the responses to my post and all the encouragement. Many thanks, especially for the details of accommodation. I have no concerns about the walking and distances, it is more about the logistics so I particularly appreciated and enjoyed your comment about Spain being a civilised country and full of nice people, lol!
They are both good in their own ways. Remember that increasing crowds generally means better infrastructure and logistical support which may be useful for a hesitant first-time pilgrim. The people complaining about crowds after Sarria are rarely first-time pilgrims. Which isn't to say that the Camino Portugues is lacking in infrastructure. But that's because it is the second most crowded route.At the risk of starting up a whole new demand for attention, would anyone recommend the Camino Portugues rather than Frances which I gather gets very crowded after Sarria?
Also because there is no one "best" operator. There are different tour operators with different strengths and weaknesses, serving different needs.I dislike this question because...
Best Camino "tour operator"?
Also because there is no one "best" operator. There are different tour operators with different strengths and weaknesses, serving different needs.
You can look at Mac AdventuresHello everyone, I am planning my first Camino next year and don't want my many uncertainties to talk me out of it! I don't want to walk in a group but would like to make all the arrangements through one of the organisers. Marlycamino get very good reviews on the web and have a walk from Sarrio (117km) in the first week of June which I am considering. My first question is whether they would be a good choice. I also have a number of questions about the the "before and after" for SA pilgrims, e.g. which airline and connecting city to use, getting back to Madrid from Santiago, where to get a Shengen visa, etc.
If there is anyone in Pretoria with Camino experience, it will probably be most helpful to get together.
Book into an Albergue in Sarria by the time you have walked 100 meters you will already have met a camino family and bob your uncle for the next five or six days Buen CaminoHello everyone, I am planning my first Camino next year and don't want my many uncertainties to talk me out of it! I don't want to walk in a group but would like to make all the arrangements through one of the organisers. Marlycamino get very good reviews on the web and have a walk from Sarrio (117km) in the first week of June which I am considering. My first question is whether they would be a good choice. I also have a number of questions about the the "before and after" for SA pilgrims, e.g. which airline and connecting city to use, getting back to Madrid from Santiago, where to get a Shengen visa, etc.
If there is anyone in Pretoria with Camino experience, it will probably be most helpful to get together.
Thanks very much for this David. I have started thinking along those lines. Although I am someone who likes to get up and going very early so it will be really hard for me to leave later than everyone else!They are both good in their own ways. Remember that increasing crowds generally means better infrastructure and logistical support which may be useful for a hesitant first-time pilgrim. The people complaining about crowds after Sarria are rarely first-time pilgrims. Which isn't to say that the Camino Portugues is lacking in infrastructure. But that's because it is the second most crowded route.
Personally, the crowds don't bother me so much. I enjoy the company of fellow pilgrims. If you really want to have time to yourself, many report it is available even after Sarria. The key then is to walk at different times of day than the majority of pilgrims, who set off early in the morning and often aren't walking in the afternoon and/or stopping at villages which are not endpoints in the stages used in the most common guidebooks. This may involve booking accommodations a day or two in advance, though.
How early is early to you? You might be quite surprised that you will be far from the only one heading out early.Although I am someone who likes to get up and going very early so it will be really hard for me to leave later than everyone else!
How early is early to you? You might be quite surprised that you will be far from the only one heading out early.
MacsadventureHa, ha! When I took my group from the Lowveld on the camino in 2017, after Sarria I’d wake up in the dark hearing the pre-dawn bag-rustlers, and there would be half my group, packed, ready and on their way out the door. The other half would groan and go back to sleep. We’d catch up with the pre-dawn lot either at the next café or not until the next evening, but at the end of the day we all walked the same distance.
hello, checkHello everyone, I am planning my first Camino next year and don't want my many uncertainties to talk me out of it! I don't want to walk in a group but would like to make all the arrangements through one of the organisers. Marlycamino get very good reviews on the web and have a walk from Sarrio (117km) in the first week of June which I am considering. My first question is whether they would be a good choice. I also have a number of questions about the the "before and after" for SA pilgrims, e.g. which airline and connecting city to use, getting back to Madrid from Santiago, where to get a Shengen visa, etc.
If there is anyone in Pretoria with Camino experience, it will probably be most helpful to get together.
Hi Starlove,At the risk of starting up a whole new demand for attention, would anyone recommend the Camino Portugues rather than Frances which I gather gets very crowded after Sarria?
So true!! This forum is the best.Fortunately, you've make a good start by using Ivar's Forum, which is the best place on the Web for getting great Camino advice!
Yes, and his luggage/package storage service is also great. We used it in both 2018 and 2019.So true!! This forum is the best.
Andaspain walking adventures is excellent.Hello everyone, I am planning my first Camino next year and don't want my many uncertainties to talk me out of it! I don't want to walk in a group but would like to make all the arrangements through one of the organisers. Marlycamino get very good reviews on the web and have a walk from Sarrio (117km) in the first week of June which I am considering. My first question is whether they would be a good choice. I also have a number of questions about the the "before and after" for SA pilgrims, e.g. which airline and connecting city to use, getting back to Madrid from Santiago, where to get a Shengen visa, etc.
If there is anyone in Pretoria with Camino experience, it will probably be most helpful to get together.
Use www.godalesco.com to get an idea of all the towns/villages between Sarria and Santiago de Compostela, and the distances between them.
Hey if you want to see what a tour company gives you verse doing it yourself, you can check out the youtube video atHello everyone, I am planning my first Camino next year and don't want my many uncertainties to talk me out of it! I don't want to walk in a group but would like to make all the arrangements through one of the organisers. Marlycamino get very good reviews on the web and have a walk from Sarrio (117km) in the first week of June which I am considering. My first question is whether they would be a good choice. I also have a number of questions about the the "before and after" for SA pilgrims, e.g. which airline and connecting city to use, getting back to Madrid from Santiago, where to get a Shengen visa, etc.
If there is anyone in Pretoria with Camino experience, it will probably be most helpful to get together.
At the risk of starting up a whole new demand for attention, would anyone recommend the Camino Portugues rather than Frances which I gather gets very crowded after Sarria?
Which agency did you use?I did my first Camino in July and I used an agency because I had only month to plan and didn't know what to expect. But once I entered my first accommodation I regretted it. We were given the worst rooms in most of the hotels (and on the good ones we were told our agency is the best one). Furthermore, the agency also messed up one of my days and haven't I noticed that I would have lost the chance to obtain my Compostela. I did the Portugues Variante Espiritual but I suppose the Frances is as well, if not more, signalised that the Portugues. You can book the hotel, day by day, of your choosing for a third to half of the price you pay for your agency to do it for you. You can use special app maps for your guidance (the tour company also did not send us all the maps. We discovered we had the right to them by talking to other pilgrims who used the same agency, on our third day. By then we had missed the seaside walk). With all the money saved by not using an agency, you can afford to pay any emergency that might happen, and if you don't have an emergency, you can treat yourself at the end of the trip.
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