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Hi Pattie, welcome and happy anniversary in advance. I can't tell you about the towns, since I joined the Frances at Melide, but you should not at all feel even a bit wimpy. I think the majority who walk start in Sarria, and this can be the start of a life-long addiction. Besides, anyone who has raised three teenage sons is never, ever wimpy.Feeling a bit wimpy doing only the last 100KM
You are correct, but I understand that when they remeasured the current route, Morgade is now a little over 100km from the cathedral. It might pay to check with the pilgrim office to see if they recognize the newer distances.There is (was?) a marker stone just meters after stepping out Morgade's door to head west - I forget the exact km it marks - it may be 99.5 - just a precaution - can someone clarify for these lovely folks!
Happy anniversary & Buen Camino from Nájera, on the Camino
especially since it will be close...according to my CSJ guide it is 115 km from Sarria to SdC, 7km from sarria to barbadelo, and 14.5 km from Sarria to Morgade (putting it just one half km over the required 100)...but the real question would be what does the office in SdC consider the distance to beThere is (was?) a marker stone just meters after stepping out Morgade's door to head west - I forget the exact km it marks - it may be 99.5 - just a precaution - can someone clarify for these lovely folks!
Happy anniversary & Buen Camino from Nájera, on the Camino
...but the real question would be what does the office in SdC consider the distance to be
Lots and lots of people start in Sarria. So if you want to be with other people starting, that's where I'd start. We stayed in Morgade and loved it, but one of the reasons was to intentionally be "off-stage" after Sarria to have a quieter Camino.
Thank you for your kind words.Hi Pattie, welcome and happy anniversary in advance. I can't tell you about the towns, since I joined the Frances at Melide, but you should not at all feel even a bit wimpy. I think the majority who walk start in Sarria, and this can be the start of a life-long addiction. Besides, anyone who has raised three teenage sons is never, ever wimpy.
Buen Camino
Thank you so much for your reply.How do you plan on getting to Morgade?
You will need reservations if you plan on sleeping there.
The only thing I know of at Morgade is the farmhouse, Casa rural and restaurant.
Barbadelo is also tiny.
Why not start in Sarria??
I guess what I am looking for is the ability to connect and have conversations with others, no matter where they are on their journey.Lots and lots of people start in Sarria. So if you want to be with other people starting, that's where I'd start. We stayed in Morgade and loved it, but one of the reasons was to intentionally be "off-stage" after Sarria to have a quieter Camino.
Thank you so much for your reply, especially the "this is your Camino". I guess there is no one right or wrong way, so I will stop pursuing that idealWell its your decision - I rode through Sarria (it gave me bad vibes ) and stayed at Casa de Carmen (at the far end of Barbadello) but Casa Barbadelo was also a good looking albergue. If you are looking to qualify for your Compostela then you are really cutting it fine - 102 or 103 km to SDC (by my estimates). Still as we always say - this is your Camino - start it wherever you think you can manage - physically or time limits etc. Cheers
Thank you.If you look for vibe like in big happy, existed crowds, start in Sarria, but even in tiny places like Barbadelo und Morgade you will meet plenty of fellow pilgrims in June. Buen Camino, SY
Thank you so much for sharing this great story.I don't know about the distances, and I don't know what the vibes will be from the other walkers, but I can tell you that the family who runs the casa rural in Morgade is absolutely delightful. I stayed there in 2000, when it had just opened. At that point it had a six room Albergue, and a small café for drinks. The woman who owned the place made the five of us dinner downstairs. She told us a lot about her life story, a young woman from the big city of Bilbao who fell in love with a farmer from Morgade. To the disbelief of her urban family, she picked up and moved to the farm. She told me she had never regretted it, and had become quite an expert at doing things like making chorizo and sausage, helping out with the livestock, etc. And a little Albergue kept her busy as well.
Fast forward 15 years, and I once again passed by Casa Morgade, this time just for a drink. I asked the young man serving me whether the woman from Bilbao was still involved in what had expanded to a huge restaurant and rural hotel. He took me into the kitchen, and there she was, still working, still smiling, still loving it. She was now being helped by two more generations of family members. Though she didn't remember me, we sat and talked for a while and she reflected on how her life changed all those years ago when she left Bilbao as a young girl in love with a farmer. She was obviously, and justifiably, very proud of the business she and her family had built.In my opinion, the Casa Morgade is an absolutely great place to stop. Good quality, honest business people, and very good treatment. They deserve all of the business they get.
So often, people who devote themselves to serving pilgrims get burned out and resentful as the years go by. Not this very special family.
Thank you.Lots and lots of people start in Sarria. So if you want to be with other people starting, that's where I'd start. We stayed in Morgade and loved it, but one of the reasons was to intentionally be "off-stage" after Sarria to have a quieter Camino.
Thank you for sharing this info, Doug.My wife and I stayed at Casa Morgade this year. If you already have reservations, I would suggest you keep them and start there. And while I don't think you are likely to find anyone else starting there, I expect there will be a mix of others who will more than welcome you. Some might have started that day in Sarria. or there might be others who have walked further.
Thank you for sharing this wonderful story. Much appreciated.I don't know about the distances, and I don't know what the vibes will be from the other walkers, but I can tell you that the family who runs the casa rural in Morgade is absolutely delightful. I stayed there in 2000, when it had just opened. At that point it had a six room Albergue, and a small café for drinks. The woman who owned the place made the five of us dinner downstairs. She told us a lot about her life story, a young woman from the big city of Bilbao who fell in love with a farmer from Morgade. To the disbelief of her urban family, she picked up and moved to the farm. She told me she had never regretted it, and had become quite an expert at doing things like making chorizo and sausage, helping out with the livestock, etc. And a little Albergue kept her busy as well.
Fast forward 15 years, and I once again passed by Casa Morgade, this time just for a drink. I asked the young man serving me whether the woman from Bilbao was still involved in what had expanded to a huge restaurant and rural hotel. He took me into the kitchen, and there she was, still working, still smiling, still loving it. She was now being helped by two more generations of family members. Though she didn't remember me, we sat and talked for a while and she reflected on how her life changed all those years ago when she left Bilbao as a young girl in love with a farmer. She was obviously, and justifiably, very proud of the business she and her family had built.In my opinion, the Casa Morgade is an absolutely great place to stop. Good quality, honest business people, and very good treatment. They deserve all of the business they get.
So often, people who devote themselves to serving pilgrims get burned out and resentful as the years go by. Not this very special family.
I got this confirmation today from the Pilgrim Office this morning:Perhaps @JohnnieWalker or @t2andreo can answer that? Buen Camino, SY
You are correct, but I understand that when they remeasured the current route, Morgade is now a little over 100km from the cathedral. It might pay to check with the pilgrim office to see if they recognize the newer distances.
ps I am assuming the measures are to the cathedral, but I admit that this isn't clear, and I don't know how one might clarify that other than checking to see if the Pilgrim Office will issue a compostela to pilgrims starting at Morgade.
Thank you. Yes, I got an email this morning from the Pilgrim's office confirming Morgade as being a valid starting point to get the Compostela. But we might walk back to the bar 3 km to the east and officially start there, just to make sure.There is (was?) a marker stone just meters after stepping out Morgade's door to head west - I forget the exact km it marks - it may be 99.5 - just a precaution - can someone clarify for these lovely folks!
Happy anniversary & Buen Camino from Nájera, on the Camino
Good p0int. It makes no difference whether or not the fellow travelers are first timers on the last 100KM or long distance walkers. I am just looking to be able to connect with other people on their journey. Meeting people is always a highlight of my travels, and to that end I speak several languages.Casa Morgade is in a minuscule place, almost a hamlet. Not much to do, although it is in a beautiful Galician landscape.
Generally, everybody is in a good mood, and disposed to share and talk. But you never know, it is quite random. Crowds in June does not favor strong personal links, people are always changing along the road. But you will be fine. Young people, especially, seem to find friends easily and form merry groups almost immediately.
I am curious about your insistence in a community of "first timers". You will probably notice some long distance walkers; they are quieter and they will show the wear and tear of many weeks. Many will be in their second or third Camino. Talk to them, you can find it interesting, especially if you intend to come back later for a longer journey.
Felipe, you are too funny! Thank you for your input. But now I am feeling lazy. Just kidding. I take your comment in jest as it was intended.As for the distance, the webpage of Casa Morgade states that they are in km 101,996, so it is "Compostela safe".
I just have have had an epiphany: opening an albergue at km 100.001 from Compostela good be a superb business!
Yes, pilgrim's office has confirmed via email. My apologies if I have replied to your message multiple times, I am new to this forum and still trying to figure out how it works.There is (was?) a marker stone just meters after stepping out Morgade's door to head west - I forget the exact km it marks - it may be 99.5 - just a precaution - can someone clarify for these lovely folks!
Happy anniversary & Buen Camino from Nájera, on the Camino
Good point about the swimming pool, thank you.As others have said, most who want the compostela start at Sarria to insure qualifying. Since you have teenagers and this would be the first night, consider Barbadelos. The larger albergue has a swimming pool, which might be a good diversion for the kids. More people for you all to meet. Casa del Carmen houses fewer pilgrims but has a lovely hill to relax atop and dinner was good. I passed through Morgade, but I would have enjoyed its solitude and intimacy.
I agree 100%. Thanks."Vibes" come and go with the people who make them. It's kinda a lot to ask for a place to maintain something so evanescent.
You kinda have to bring your own with you!
Wow, thank you so much for this great tip! I will definately do this!Whether you begin at Morgade or Barbadelo do stop for a drink or a meal further west just past Ferreios. Down the hill next to the church and cemetery the simple restaurant O Mirallos is a local favorite! Their delicious simple food with kind service is hard to beat. They are open every day, serve breakfast from 07:00 and have a small dorm for those in need...Don't miss it!
How on earth did you know?Oh, and just a wee bit food for thought - Could it be that you have a tendency to micro-manage things ;-) ? BC SY
Thank you.Believe me - in June you will meet lots and lots of people in Galicia, no matter where you start! Buen Camino, SY
Ferreiros is pretty close to that. The marker in front of the restaurant has 100.746, one in the intersection is slightly different. Ferreiros was my starting point, and it was no problem at the Pilgrim Office. The 100km marker is on the left about .746km after Ferreiros...opening an albergue at km 100.001 from Compostela
or a snack stand exactly at 100 km, with a cool sello.opening an albergue at km 100.001 from Compostela can be a superb business!
or a snack stand exactly at 100 km, with a cool sello.
Thank you so much for your reply.
We'll be taking a private shuttle from La Coruña airport to Morgade, and would stay at Casa Morgade. Starting at Morgade shaves off 12.3KM, which for our group is practically a day of walking, and I want to save an extra day to go scuba diving with the family in Portonovo outside of Santiago.
When I said Barbadelo is bigger, I meant to say Casa Barbadelo is a bigger pension than Casa Morgade, so I thought there might be a better vibe there of people starting the camino there.
Are you saying that there is more/better pre-camino vibe starting in Sarria? I could try to squeeze out some time some other way if this the case.
and pulpo...it's ok, I will eat anything we don't sellWhat about a food stand with bespoken bocadillos? Choice of bread (whole meal/grain included), choice of main ingredient and free condiments like lettuce, tomato, cucumber, pickles and/or sprinkles of health stuff like crushed sesame seed? Que aprovecho y Buen Camino, SY
My thoughts - go where your soul feels drawn to. It's not so much an intellectual decision, but a sense of what feels right for your first day, and the days after that. Trust that somehow the universe will put you in the right place, with the right people, even if it is not the experience you had hoped or planned for.Thank you so much for your reply, especially the "this is your Camino". I guess there is no one right or wrong way, so I will stop pursuing that ideal
Thank you so much for this info!Most people start in Sarria because it is relatively easy to get there by bus or train. There is only limited bus service between Sarria and Portomarin. I can't figure out if it stops at places like Morgade or Barbadelo, even though it seems likely. Situation might change; last year there was no website for EPsa so with more information more people might shave that 15km off.
Empresa Portomarin
http://sarria.es/pdf/c_portomarin.pdf
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