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In case anyone is interested, in my experience generally the highest incidence of bad coffees has most often been in France.
Oh my that's me, hubby thinks I am weirdHonnestly, the cafe con leche and its effect on my gut is key to my happy, and non polluting the scenary, walks. Have coffee, have a second coffee, wait for gut to rumble, take care of rumbling gut, and head out the door for a walk until it's ensalada mixta time.
If you are aware of your own mechanics you can keep the Camino cleaner.
No -- the recipes are not the same.
Cappucino is quite unique (American attempts to copy it are unsuccessful) ; ordinary Spanish café con leche is like some French café au lait (but not like the best Parisian breakfast version, or the properly done café crème variety), though the quality version is more particular.
Just wrapping up last few things for Camino No.1...probably spent too much time on here gleaning advice but hopefully after this that'll be it. So, seen a few things on other threads that people have suggested which don't seem to be the within the main thinking of what a pilgrim needs to take....
...one person suggested that around the time of my Camino, March/early April, the albergues are still rather cold inside. Many of them offer laundry facilities but not for tumble drying and coupled with the fact they often leave the windows open to let air circulate (and the farts escape) you have a situation where things don't dry overnight, possibly leading to have to wear damp socks in the morning...one person said they ended up buying a cheap travel hair dryer and it worked brilliantly, dry socks and underwear every morning for the rest of the trip. I can get a travel dryer here for 10 quid, is it worth buying and bringing?
....are gaiters worth bringing?...what is the experience of people on here regarding that?
...same with trekking gloves...obviously not needed at all in the summer, but rain and snow to be expected in March, are they worth getting or have most people found them not necessary....?
...finally and most importantly, what is the situation with tea bags? I'm trying to cut my espresso habit and only drink coffee with breakfast these days, any other hot drinks during the day are tea. Should I bring my own tea bags..? Only fellow Britons along with Kiwis, Aussies and the Irish will truly appreciate and be able to answer this question I think. I know there are Americans out there who think they can buy and drink tea at home, but believe me, whatever it is you think you're drinking, it ain't tea as far as the civilised parts of the world are concerned
..this probably isn't a good place to ask whether I should bring my own marmalade too....(only joking...of course I should bring my own marmalade, doh...!)
BC!!!
Just wrapping up last few things for Camino No.1...probably spent too much time on here gleaning advice but hopefully after this that'll be it. So, seen a few things on other threads that people have suggested which don't seem to be the within the main thinking of what a pilgrim needs to take....
...one person suggested that around the time of my Camino, March/early April, the albergues are still rather cold inside. Many of them offer laundry facilities but not for tumble drying and coupled with the fact they often leave the windows open to let air circulate (and the farts escape) you have a situation where things don't dry overnight, possibly leading to have to wear damp socks in the morning...one person said they ended up buying a cheap travel hair dryer and it worked brilliantly, dry socks and underwear every morning for the rest of the trip. I can get a travel dryer here for 10 quid, is it worth buying and bringing?
....are gaiters worth bringing?...what is the experience of people on here regarding that?
...same with trekking gloves...obviously not needed at all in the summer, but rain and snow to be expected in March, are they worth getting or have most people found them not necessary....?
...finally and most importantly, what is the situation with tea bags? I'm trying to cut my espresso habit and only drink coffee with breakfast these days, any other hot drinks during the day are tea. Should I bring my own tea bags..? Only fellow Britons along with Kiwis, Aussies and the Irish will truly appreciate and be able to answer this question I think. I know there are Americans out there who think they can buy and drink tea at home, but believe me, whatever it is you think you're drinking, it ain't tea as far as the civilised parts of the world are concerned
..this probably isn't a good place to ask whether I should bring my own marmalade too....(only joking...of course I should bring my own marmalade, doh...!)
BC!!!
We all have our own ideas of what is essential for our comfort. I met an Italian man on the Via Francigena walking with a big tent, stove, full camping gear, 2kg of dried rice and a heavy cotton towelling bathrobe - in mid August. He reckoned his pack weighed 17kg but I suspect it was more. Not very surprised when he gave up after 3 days with knee trouble. Personally I like to go fast and light and just accept missing out on one or two home comforts.
No -- the recipes are not the same.
Cappucino is quite unique (American attempts to copy it are unsuccessful) ; ordinary Spanish café con leche is like some French café au lait (but not like the best Parisian breakfast version, or the properly done café crème variety), though the quality version is more particular.
You must have had some really badly prepared flat white coffees to form either of these opinions. Certainly it is only recently that UK coffee shops have been making them, and I cannot remember anywhere outside of Starbucks attempting them when I was in the US in 2015. It would be interesting to try and explain the differences, but I am conscious that the alternative explanation for your confusion is that you couldn't tell the difference, and any explanation would be lost on youIn my experience, cafe con leche is probably just more like what has unfortunately recently become quite popular here, a flat white. Cafe con leche is OK btw, happy to drink them when in Spain etc.
But a flat white is really just a poorly prepared attempt at a Cappuccino and I suspect the flat white was a convenient rebranding face saving opportunity for 'Big Cafe' (the insidious cabal of chain coffee, the Starbucks, the Costas, etc) so they can now say their coffees aren't s**t Cappucini but actually 'flat whites'. Yeah whatever....
Can anyone remember what it was that members were asked to confirm or refute; or even why?
Tea, which I opt for when in the US to avoid that crappy watered down filtered liqid the call coffee. So he was really asking about coffee.Can anyone remember what it was that members were asked to confirm or refute; or even why?
Yup....In my experience, cafe con leche is probably just more like what has unfortunately recently become quite popular here, a flat white. Cafe con leche is OK btw, happy to drink them when in Spain etc.
But a flat white is really just a poorly prepared attempt at a Cappuccino and I suspect the flat white was a convenient rebranding face saving opportunity for 'Big Cafe' (the insidious cabal of chain coffee, the Starbucks, the Costas, etc) so they can now say their coffees aren't s**t Cappucini but actually 'flat whites'. Yeah whatever....
It's quite unfair to say Americans can't do Cappucino, of course they can, it's not rocket science and the Americans are actually OK with rocket science so why shouldn't they be able to knock up a foamy/frothy coffee? The problem is that they like to monetise/franchise/chain the s**t out pretty much everything from burgers, to coffee, to donuts, to salad bars to ice cream and perhaps in doing so they lose a little of what made the thing so good in the first place but those massive queues in my local Starbucks aren't all Americans and the enormous queues in McDonalds I see in France, Italy and Spain sure as hell aren't Americans on a day visit to buy burgers. I know we sniffy Europeans like to twist the knife of cultural superiority in their guts but c'mon, the Americans are OK....I really like'em..... 
BC!!
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