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How about a different form of exercise for training? Swimming shouldn't cause too many injuries (unless you bump your head on the side of the pool)..
I've just realised that I've never properly exercised in my life and therefore have no qualifications to be answering on this thread...
On the plus side I found that spending 44 years eating two kebabs and a pizza each day means I can reduce my intake to only one kebab and a pizza and technically be eating healthier.. it got me through two Caminos this year
Hi Robo,
I think the hardest part of losing weight is to cross the mental Rubicon that allows you to get into a place where you know you will see your weight loss project through. After that I think your diet is secondary. Just eat a balanced diet every day, eat good food, exercise a little and let nature do the rest. But if your mentality is not where it needs to be, it is sooooo easy to fall back into bad habits. IMO your state of mind will control your ability to lose weight!!!! I sure hope you can mentally and physically get what you desire.
Finally I hope you succeed and that your next Camino is the best of all and Pain Free!!!!
Aidan
Losing weight BEFORE you head out is the best way. We all obsess about carried weight in a rucksack. But, carried weight on your person is equally heavy, and likely more consequential.
I think you are fooling yourself when you say losing weight is not hard.
If it was easy, we would all be thin.
Change the name of your "static" (non-moving) bike to your "welcome home" riding bike. It might make it easier to hop on it each night - start with a couple of minutes...
I don't drink alcohol and six months ago stopped all soda.
Thankyou for being so honest. But what you said is very true. It hurts when I just look at a very heavy person trying to "jog" it off! It is killing their joints and asking for injury. Best to reduce the caloric intake however you can and do non-weight-bearing activity like swimming or light-bearing like just walking a lot. But it comes down to the volume of food you take in. Good luck! Hope it won't be long before you can get back on the saddle!Hi, my name's Robo and I'm fat !
According to all the guides I should be about 20 kg lighter!
I've been reading lots of interesting posts and threads recently about topics such as:
I'd just like to address the Elephant in the Room here
- How to train for the Camino.
- How much weight will I lose on the Camino
- I'm trying to lose weight before I go
- etc etc
I planned to lose weight before my first Camino. And didn't lose much.
I planned to do lots of training, and didn't do much.
Because I was overweight, the training caused injury.......
I have walked the CF from St Jean twice and Sarria (plus a bit) once.
And here are some observations from a 'fatty'
Thinking I could train on the Camino, by starting slowly. I was kidding myself. It hurt, all the way........ all 3 times.
It started hurting a bit less after a week as my legs got stronger.
And in the last week it hurt a lot......as my legs and joints found it hard to cope.
Training overweight, caused damage before I even started.
Walking three times overweight has caused permanent damage.
If you are significantly overweight, as I am. (BMI 32) You probably eat and/or drink too much and have a poor diet.
If you think you are somehow going to eat less on the Camino, think again.
The walking will make you hungry, and the plentiful supply of yummy, cheap, and hi carb/fat food ain't going to help you much.
On 3 Caminos, whilst I got fitter and stronger, I hardly lost any weight. Maybe 2-3 kg. (starting at 94)
So fool yourself as much as you like
But for my next Camino, I'll be:
Losing weight before I go. By eating less! (Yes, it's about energy balance. Not rocket science)
I will loose at least 10 kg before I start any serious training.
I will aim for a BMI of about 25-26 if I can, before starting my next Camino.
Still bordering on overweight but a lot lighter than I am now.
I know that if I walk again with a BMI of 32 that.
I might not make it through injury.
And if I do make it, it going to be really painful..........again.
I've come across a few Pilgrims my size or bigger, and..........
90% of them had terrible foot and blister problems.
No wonder really is it ?
So if you are a fatty like me.
Do yourself a big favour.
And use your upcoming Camino as a really good reason to lose some serious weight, before you go.
Your Camino will be easier.
Less painful.
And far less damaging in the long term.
P.S. I find it really hard to stick to diets.
But the one that seems to work is the 5-2, or a variation of it.
Basically 2 days a week I don't eat much at all.
When I do this, I can lose 1-2 kgs a week easily.
Then Pat cooks a great meal, I get a bottle of wine to go with it.
And I start all over again
But you get the point.
I know what I need to do prior to my next Camino.......
And I've found a diet that will work when I need it.
Thankyou for being so honest. But what you said is very true. It hurts when I just look at a very heavy person trying to "jog" it off! It is killing their joints and asking for injury. Best to reduce the caloric intake however you can and do non-weight-bearing activity like swimming or light-bearing like just walking a lot. But it comes down to the volume of food you take in. Good luck! Hope it won't be long before you can get back on the saddle!
This thread feels like a confessional for the overweight. Many thanks to Robo for starting a conversation I truly feel a part of.
I know when I first started this malarkey the weight I was carrying was the major issue. Agonising over the merits of a super lightweight sleeping bag or some extra layers for the colder April compared to the large spare tyre around my waist is akin to debating the merits of the musical choices of the orchestra on the Titanic's last evening. Thankfully I have opened a new chapter in my life. I hear the point made about "comfort food" in a stressful job. I left/ lost my stressful job in May. My last stage (April 2018) saw me lugging my 10kg pack around whilst carting 103 kg of me. A combination of diet (just less carbs), more exercise (swimming a mile 2 or 3 times a week, plus a 5 - 10 km walk) and simply going to bed earlier has seen a gradual (and I hope sustained) weight drop to 92kg.
I agree with the many posts that say it's mostly down to diet and exercise; but I really do think how we live our lives, especially the stress we put up with, has a massive impact.
I am now revelling in the concept of being down-wardly mobile ... and boy, are my knees thankful.
Hoping to dip to below 90kg before my next stage in April - almost a free pack!!
This is not a call for everyone to leave their employment - it's just to consider the mindset we operate in. Good luck to all bon vivants and imbibers everywhere.
You do NOT need bread and pasta to do a Camino. Especially if you are accustomed to small portions at home. I only lost a couple of kilos in six weeks but I came back looking different and my pants are not tight now.
I think you are fooling yourself when you say losing weight is not hard.
If it was easy, we would all be thin.
Change the name of your "static" (non-moving) bike to your "welcome home" riding bike. It might make it easier to hop on it each night - start with a couple of minutes...
If you carry a feather duster with you you can get some exercise by dusting it as you pass by - I do with mine!I have a static bike Andy on the recommendations of a medical specialist.
It looks great sitting on the verandah as I pass it each day
So have your cake and not eat it then?There is a reason it is easier to eat NO cake rather than a little cake - sugar is addictive.
I was drinking coffee as I read lines 5 and 6. I now need to clean my keyboard and screen.Great thread Rob.
Cut down what you eat and pay attention to what kind of things you eat - and/or increase the energy you burn - seems such a simple formula.
Simple, maybe. But it's not easy.
I have struggled with this since puberty. Which seems forever.
And with age, it gets harder.
But it helps to know I am not the only one.
I prefer to think of myself, not as overweight, but undertall...
I have lost over 70 pounds (about 5 stone,) most of it since June. I plan to loose another 30 before I leave in the Spring. My weight loss has been constant but what has slipped is my walking training. Sadly this is partly due to a thread here in which I was called out for some of my decisions and planning regarding late arrival (via public transfer if dark out) and transfer of half my luggage despite carrying a 38L pack. It really shocked and saddened me. Knocked me right off center and sent me reeling. I have not posted since then (about 6 - 8 weeks) until today. I have decided to not let that episode (or member) destroy the goodwill I had been feeling here or the positive feelings and support I was getting. I still walk, just not every day. I plan to redouble my efforts now.
As a two time cancer survivor who has "persistent, non aggressive" cancer (IOW it won't go away and is not fast growing) my weight was secondary to other health issues for many years. Then a year ago my MD said to me "if you think you will live long enough for your cancer to kill you you are mistaken" I was almost 350 pounds at the time as well as pre-diabetic and severe HBP. I now have low glucose levels well below diabetic, low cholesterol, no HBP and weigh 267 pounds as of Monday. I was between 190-210 in high school. I have not weighed less than 275 since the 20th century.
I have lost over 70 pounds (about 5 stone,) most of it since June. I plan to loose another 30 before I leave in the Spring. My weight loss has been constant but what has slipped is my walking training. Sadly this is partly due to a thread here in which I was called out for some of my decisions and planning regarding late arrival (via public transfer if dark out) and transfer of half my luggage despite carrying a 38L pack. It really shocked and saddened me. Knocked me right off center and sent me reeling. I have not posted since then (about 6 - 8 weeks) until today. I have decided to not let that episode (or member) destroy the goodwill I had been feeling here or the positive feelings and support I was getting. I still walk, just not every day. I plan to redouble my efforts now.
As a two time cancer survivor who has "persistent, non aggressive" cancer (IOW it won't go away and is not fast growing) my weight was secondary to other health issues for many years. Then a year ago my MD said to me "if you think you will live long enough for your cancer to kill you you are mistaken" I was almost 350 pounds at the time as well as pre-diabetic and severe HBP. I now have low glucose levels well below diabetic, low cholesterol, no HBP and weigh 267 pounds as of Monday. I was between 190-210 in high school. I have not weighed less than 275 since the 20th century.
... I couldn't eat much on the Camino as I have IBS so ate a piece of fruit in the am and just dinner after 7-8 hrs of walking. I list 3 lbsReally?! Walked 500mi ate less than 1000 cal a day and lost 3 lbs... And no I didn't develop muscle!
I have not read all the threads;
My experience starts with the surgeon telling me 4 months before my hernia operation that I really need to slim - Are you calling me fat? - "No but it is difficult to sew two packets of butter together !!"
Save this thought ..
Aouch...- Started next day , skipped milk, cheese and every trace of sugar and lost 1 kg every week !
- from week 41 in ´09 to week 13 in ´10... got me from 112 kg to 96 kg..
Next hurdle; enter a prostate cancer operation in 07 ´10 that demanded Bicatulamide hormone as after treatment. It is basically blanketing the Testoterone and the surplus decays as Estrogene, thus making me taking on 8 kgs again...
But since then I shaved a lot of kgs off again by a strict regime including training in fitness center and restructuring intake. - Got as far as 84 kgs and BMI 24 !
- This is where I took my first Camino...proud & happy I was, naturally...
But - enter the new knowledge of Leptin, this newfound hormone and what it does to not letting go of all that precious body fat, once you have acquired it, as our Stone Age construction will forever plan for the next drought and hunger period !!
I am now at 90 kgs precise, and at BMI 27, which is good enough for my age of 64...
So my precious, expensively acquired and personal wisdom is, that I will have to train and diet forever if I want to keep my ambition glowing of living till I´m 88
Had two more Caminos...
I bulk up my intake of daily protein to 1,3 grams pr kg body weight and cut down fat, eating only one or two slices of wholegrain rye bread a day, but allowing for feast and Holidays and keeping a mean calory intake by monitoring...Walking to the job, always and year a around,
This and a yearly Camiono makes it 18oo kms every year walking, 4 sets of boots spent.
I was thankful to get through cancer and will not yield an inch to pay it all back by living longer and staying two more years on the job before retiring.
I am having a hell of a time and enjoying every minute of it, and I do not suffer one bit by this stringent regime, not a bit !
Nunquam Redono - don´t ever bloody quit
One post talked about cancer and hormones.
I too had surgery and hormone therapy and my last Camino was near impossible. No testosterone makes the job so much more difficult. My wife was out pacing me by a lot.
Hi, my name's Robo and I'm fat !
According to all the guides I should be about 20 kg lighter!
I've been reading lots of interesting posts and threads recently about topics such as:
I'd just like to address the Elephant in the Room here
- How to train for the Camino.
- How much weight will I lose on the Camino
- I'm trying to lose weight before I go
- etc etc
I planned to lose weight before my first Camino. And didn't lose much.
I planned to do lots of training, and didn't do much.
Because I was overweight, the training caused injury.......
I have walked the CF from St Jean twice and Sarria (plus a bit) once.
And here are some observations from a 'fatty'
Thinking I could train on the Camino, by starting slowly. I was kidding myself. It hurt, all the way........ all 3 times.
It started hurting a bit less after a week as my legs got stronger.
And in the last week it hurt a lot......as my legs and joints found it hard to cope.
Training overweight, caused damage before I even started.
Walking three times overweight has caused permanent damage.
If you are significantly overweight, as I am. (BMI 32) You probably eat and/or drink too much and have a poor diet.
If you think you are somehow going to eat less on the Camino, think again.
The walking will make you hungry, and the plentiful supply of yummy, cheap, and hi carb/fat food ain't going to help you much.
On 3 Caminos, whilst I got fitter and stronger, I hardly lost any weight. Maybe 2-3 kg. (starting at 94)
So fool yourself as much as you like
But for my next Camino, I'll be:
Losing weight before I go. By eating less! (Yes, it's about energy balance. Not rocket science)
I will loose at least 10 kg before I start any serious training.
I will aim for a BMI of about 25-26 if I can, before starting my next Camino.
Still bordering on overweight but a lot lighter than I am now.
I know that if I walk again with a BMI of 32 that.
I might not make it through injury.
And if I do make it, it going to be really painful..........again.
I've come across a few Pilgrims my size or bigger, and..........
90% of them had terrible foot and blister problems.
No wonder really is it ?
So if you are a fatty like me.
Do yourself a big favour.
And use your upcoming Camino as a really good reason to lose some serious weight, before you go.
Your Camino will be easier.
Less painful.
And far less damaging in the long term.
P.S. I find it really hard to stick to diets.
But the one that seems to work is the 5-2, or a variation of it.
Basically 2 days a week I don't eat much at all.
When I do this, I can lose 1-2 kgs a week easily.
Then Pat cooks a great meal, I get a bottle of wine to go with it.
And I start all over again
But you get the point.
I know what I need to do prior to my next Camino.......
And I've found a diet that will work when I need it.
Hello
I walked fat and I did great other than being slow. I don’t mean to disagree with your experience, but, mine was very positive. I managed to get a bottom bunk as I knew that I couldn’t do the top bunk bed. The only training I did was walking before hand. I left home weighing 240 and returned weighing 220. I’m only commenting on his post so that fat people who read this won’t lose hope...
Haha. My mother used to give me advice based on her own experience - when she wanted to lose a pound or two (she was never overweight) she would just cut portions in half for awhile. I would reply that it was a great idea, as long as she only ate one of those half portions.I may not be popular here but... how about eating LESS. T’is the only way!
Don’t think for a minute I am being flippant, I have the same problem!
Do as I say and not as I do: eat less. End of.
Oh how I wish I could follow my own advice
I agree. The only inputs are height and weight, so it doesn't take anything else into account like body type, bone structure, proportion of muscle. I hate the waist/hip ratio even more.Regarding use of BMI, I’m not a fan. BMI feels a bit like a sledgehammer.
I agree. The only inputs are height and weight, so it doesn't take anything else into account like body type, bone structure, proportion of muscle. I hate the waist/hip ratio even more.
Hello
I walked fat and I did great other than being slow. I don’t mean to disagree with your experience, but, mine was very positive. I managed to get a bottom bunk as I knew that I couldn’t do the top bunk bed. The only training I did was walking before hand. I left home weighing 240 and returned weighing 220. I’m only commenting on his post so that fat people who read this won’t lose hope...
Bummer, Rob. I'm sorry to know that.But I've caused irreparable damage doing it
Dearest Robo, we've all been there and done that. See this weight loss program you are now beginning as a new adventure and keep your eyes on the end result..... weight LOST. Will be thinking of you and am certain that this time you will succeed.Hi, my name's Robo and I'm fat !
According to all the guides I should be about 20 kg lighter!
I've been reading lots of interesting posts and threads recently about topics such as:
I'd just like to address the Elephant in the Room here
- How to train for the Camino.
- How much weight will I lose on the Camino
- I'm trying to lose weight before I go
- etc etc
I planned to lose weight before my first Camino. And didn't lose much.
I planned to do lots of training, and didn't do much.
Because I was overweight, the training caused injury.......
I have walked the CF from St Jean twice and Sarria (plus a bit) once.
And here are some observations from a 'fatty'
Thinking I could train on the Camino, by starting slowly. I was kidding myself. It hurt, all the way........ all 3 times.
It started hurting a bit less after a week as my legs got stronger.
And in the last week it hurt a lot......as my legs and joints found it hard to cope.
Training overweight, caused damage before I even started.
Walking three times overweight has caused permanent damage.
If you are significantly overweight, as I am. (BMI 32) You probably eat and/or drink too much and have a poor diet.
If you think you are somehow going to eat less on the Camino, think again.
The walking will make you hungry, and the plentiful supply of yummy, cheap, and hi carb/fat food ain't going to help you much.
On 3 Caminos, whilst I got fitter and stronger, I hardly lost any weight. Maybe 2-3 kg. (starting at 94)
So fool yourself as much as you like
But for my next Camino, I'll be:
Losing weight before I go. By eating less! (Yes, it's about energy balance. Not rocket science)
I will loose at least 10 kg before I start any serious training.
I will aim for a BMI of about 25-26 if I can, before starting my next Camino.
Still bordering on overweight but a lot lighter than I am now.
I know that if I walk again with a BMI of 32 that.
I might not make it through injury.
And if I do make it, it going to be really painful..........again.
I've come across a few Pilgrims my size or bigger, and..........
90% of them had terrible foot and blister problems.
No wonder really is it ?
So if you are a fatty like me.
Do yourself a big favour.
And use your upcoming Camino as a really good reason to lose some serious weight, before you go.
Your Camino will be easier.
Less painful.
And far less damaging in the long term.
P.S. I find it really hard to stick to diets.
But the one that seems to work is the 5-2, or a variation of it.
Basically 2 days a week I don't eat much at all.
When I do this, I can lose 1-2 kgs a week easily.
Then Pat cooks a great meal, I get a bottle of wine to go with it.
And I start all over again
But you get the point.
I know what I need to do prior to my next Camino.......
And I've found a diet that will work when I need it.
Loooooove your replyI have a static bike Andy on the recommendations of a medical specialist.
It looks great sitting on the verandah as I pass it each day
I have the physique of a greek named Adonis, too, if he's been eating a lot and walking occasionally.As someone with the physique of a greek Adonis I don't feel it would be right to post a reply
I've found a diet that will work when I need it.
“Eat less, move more”
Not rocket science, but I agree with many, not easy.
Thanks Robo for starting this discussion.
Now for work motto....”Work less, make more”
What’s the long story?Ah. We have a different philosophy at work.
Work More, Make More, Give More.
Long story
I am also large and thus careful. 3-4 days from Seville is a hill called Almaden, it is littered with crosses of Peregrinos who have fallen by the wayside, never to walk again. So I bought myself a 4 wheel Rolser shopping trolley from the Ferreteria in Madrid. Cost €60.00 it takes up to 35 kg and I have carted and pushed it along Frances, el Norte and Via de la Plata. Over 1,000km. The trolley is made in Spain and can also be found in el Cortes Ingles.
There is nothing on my back or body other than my own excess weight. I can easily attach a second pack and carry a tent.
When it is hard up a hill, it is hard with the shopping trolley, otherwise it makes life very much simpler. My knees and hips are still in good shape as I carry nothing to strain them. The trolley is also a steadying influence and eliminates the need for the walking poles. It is it’s own walking frame. I am 64 years old and weigh 115 kg, way in excess of a healthy weight, I should be 85 kg. My knees are safe and I can carry far more than a survivor at 10kg on their back.
Inside the shopping trolley is a thermos pack for keeping wine cold, it can be like a magicians hat. I can sometimes pull a party out of the insides. Vino blanco, cheese biscuits and stories from all around the world.
What’s the long story?
“Eat less, move more”
Not rocket science, but I agree with many, not easy.
Thanks Robo for starting this discussion.
Now for work motto....”Work less, make more”
The food is abundant on the Camino but my husband managed to loose 10kg when he cut out all sugars. No dessert for him from the pilgrim menu. He doesn’t drink alcohol though.
@Robo
I was never able to resist the wine that went with the dinners on the camino. But then, I never drink wine at home unless someone treats me. It is not in my budget.
He was responding to:That's cheating! Anyone can lose weight by cutting alcohol
Hi fat Robo! I wish you the very best of luck! :-DHi, my name's Robo and I'm fat !
According to all the guides I should be about 20 kg lighter!
I've been reading lots of interesting posts and threads recently about topics such as:
I'd just like to address the Elephant in the Room here
- How to train for the Camino.
- How much weight will I lose on the Camino
- I'm trying to lose weight before I go
- etc etc
I planned to lose weight before my first Camino. And didn't lose much.
I planned to do lots of training, and didn't do much.
Because I was overweight, the training caused injury.......
I have walked the CF from St Jean twice and Sarria (plus a bit) once.
And here are some observations from a 'fatty'
Thinking I could train on the Camino, by starting slowly. I was kidding myself. It hurt, all the way........ all 3 times.
It started hurting a bit less after a week as my legs got stronger.
And in the last week it hurt a lot......as my legs and joints found it hard to cope.
Training overweight, caused damage before I even started.
Walking three times overweight has caused permanent damage.
If you are significantly overweight, as I am. (BMI 32) You probably eat and/or drink too much and have a poor diet.
If you think you are somehow going to eat less on the Camino, think again.
The walking will make you hungry, and the plentiful supply of yummy, cheap, and hi carb/fat food ain't going to help you much.
On 3 Caminos, whilst I got fitter and stronger, I hardly lost any weight. Maybe 2-3 kg. (starting at 94)
So fool yourself as much as you like
But for my next Camino, I'll be:
Losing weight before I go. By eating less! (Yes, it's about energy balance. Not rocket science)
I will loose at least 10 kg before I start any serious training.
I will aim for a BMI of about 25-26 if I can, before starting my next Camino.
Still bordering on overweight but a lot lighter than I am now.
I know that if I walk again with a BMI of 32 that.
I might not make it through injury.
And if I do make it, it going to be really painful..........again.
I've come across a few Pilgrims my size or bigger, and..........
90% of them had terrible foot and blister problems.
No wonder really is it ?
So if you are a fatty like me.
Do yourself a big favour.
And use your upcoming Camino as a really good reason to lose some serious weight, before you go.
Your Camino will be easier.
Less painful.
And far less damaging in the long term.
P.S. I find it really hard to stick to diets.
But the one that seems to work is the 5-2, or a variation of it.
Basically 2 days a week I don't eat much at all.
When I do this, I can lose 1-2 kgs a week easily.
Then Pat cooks a great meal, I get a bottle of wine to go with it.
And I start all over again
But you get the point.
I know what I need to do prior to my next Camino.......
And I've found a diet that will work when I need it.
Hi fat Robo! I wish you the very best of luck! :-D
I seem to be fattening up for Christmas nicely
Guys,Bmi 38.7
Lets just say....38
Ime not fat..ime fluffy
I am a valued commodity..in winter
I make my own shade....
I dont look like it though...especially in baggy clothes!
Santiago it seems...has plans for me...had a bad tooth...only solids i could eat was tuna from a can...so i have been eating 4 cans a nite...my lunch at 7 cst or so is 2 cans w lemon pepper and some dried cranberries
Din din at midnite is the same with a wet pack oatmeal in a cup.
Water is the drink and for dessert usually an orange.
I have lost about a notch a week on my belt.
It turns out i have a talent for weight loss because of the forced discipline.
I trend taller than wider and walk like a cat because of work...a squatch size lurch gate cat..yeah..thats it
Knee is shot..some loose, some snap,crack pop
So St.Iago sent a toothache.
I plan in trying to get down to 250 lbs or so before camino
And take my chances with a leg brace,rub and lots of luck.
Ime glad you were brave enough to take the Camino on...im not there yet.
Its always been the size of the heart that gets me..not the outershell
Hi, my name's Robo and I'm fat !
Hi Rob, I'm Fat also. Thank you very much for posting your prospective of the Camino, it's much appreciated.
For me, next to money issues being a hurdle to doing my Camino (hopefully 2020), loosing weight is the other hurdle. I won't do it until I reach my goal weight. I know it will make it harder if I don't.
In Aug 2014 I was enrolled in a monitored weight management program. It involved setting goals, exercising, eating healthier but not denying cravings (just controlling portions of those), portion control, drinking more water, calorie counting and getting help with monitoring what I ate. By summer of 2015 I was down about 36kg. I also found out about a non-profit organization that I still belong to (and am a leader in) that helped me get more active both physically & socially. I never could break under 90kg, which my doctor said I should do but I held it well & most people thought I weighed less. Being 6ft helped me carry the weight well and the fact that I have fairly big thigh muscles.
Since then through various life experiences that happened I have let me self get just about back to where I was in 2014, 131kg, I'm currently at 129kg. I know that to successfully do the Camino I need to be back to where I got before 92kg (or less). So my goal this month is to start back doing what I did before to loose weight. Get more physically active, do more Rucking and quit eating like a pig.
I already know from before its a struggle, getting into and staying in that mindset is hard. It doesn't take much to slip. I love food which doesn't help. I also know I've did it before and can do it again.
Didn't really want to de-rail this post with an "about me" comment though. So again, thank you for your insight and I hope you do achieve your goals before your next Camino.
- Matt
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