- Time of past OR future Camino
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Wonderful storyHere is what happened in A Coruña after the lockdown happened:
❤ ❤❤Spanish couple hold wedding from their window to beat coronavirus lockdown
Pair lighten a grim week by getting married with the street as witness in Spain’s answer to Italy’s balcony singingwww.theguardian.com
We all have a choice: give in to inner darkness or feed light. Therse two sure found a way forward to the light...and cheered up everyone in the process.
Wonderful story
Two sensible people who know that it's not all about the "big day," the dress, the flowers etc but their commitment to each other
I suspect that this marriage will last a long time!
I noticed that too.a groom with the felicitous name Camino.
I full well believe you have done some stuff in that particular career and it interests me that walking a camino has been the best experience of your life. I Think the long walks i have done have been among the best days of my life too, but it is all the life that has gone before that makes it so, because thats how i have become the person who values the teachings of walking daily among different landscapes and people and cultures. I wish you much happiness in your life in spain, something many of us walkers might fantasise about due to the emotional connection. Having now given up on another camino in may i am trying to still my restless spirit and be glad for being where i am. At a time of social distancing it feels good to be connected worldwide to a walking community. I read lots of posts and am venturing into more posts myself. Stay well. The hills on the horizon locally seem clearer to me, the air pollution less now we are all restricted. nature carries on and i find comfort in its renewal and endurance.I am a retired veteran from the USAF and live in Spain year round. My plans, (and I still have the Train tickets), were to start the Northern trail this year on 6 April during semana santa, however, Corona changed all that. The whole country is in Red-Alert lock down. Plan your trip for next year...things will be more conducive then. I finished the Camino Frances 2 years ago walking from RSV to Santiago-best experience of my life and believe me when I say I've done some stuff. Hope to continue next year after the world finishes the reset. Best of luck to everyone and hopefully, I will see you next year on the Trail to Santiago.
Greece has banned all unnecessary travel from 6am this morning.Spain is very likely to extend the State of Alarm 'til 11th April.
The UK is asking those in the "vulnerable" category to self-quarantine for three months.
Germany has forbidden public gatherings of more than two people.
Please bear in mind that it is impossible to say which trajectory any country will follow.Sadly, Spain seems to be following the path of Italy and I think the U.S. is not far behind.
Oh thank you for posting this. Pooh is one of the few things that keeps me sane!!
I am glad for this worldly perspective of how things are for the moment. My state in the US is pretty much on lock down as of yesterday, mainly spurred on because for some reason there are still people who refuse to keep even a 3 foot distance, let alone self-isolate. As mentioned by others, essential shops, such as pharmacies and grocery stores, remain open. And for some reason hardware stores are included as essential, but repair shops are not. Apparently we all are expected to know how to repair our washing machines after purchasing the appropriate parts at the hardware store. I have heard on the news of stores having special hours for seniors, but I haven't gone to the shops for the last 10 days, so have no idea if we are doing this here in my tiny town. The number of people who may gather went from 100 to 50 to 10, and as of yesterday it is down to 5. I didn't know other locations had a restriction on how far one may go for exercise or to the shops. Here we are so rural, normally we need to drive awhile to get to somewhere. I walk in the hills every day, and when I run out of lettuce I will venture out to the grocery again.
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We all have a choice: give in to inner darkness or feed light.
I thought I was coping quite well with closing shop, physical distancing and keeping busy at home and also managing the worry for my 90 year old mom in preventative lockdown in her retirement home. When I saw this, it touched me so...that I started to cry. Kindness is all around us...all over the world and close to home.While in Italy (and probably in towns in other countries as well) people are singing on their balconies for medical workers, in Spain (Algaida, Mallorca) it's different:
I'm thinking of the incalculable good will the police created in one minute and thirty seconds. Do you think ANYONE in that neighborhood will have anything but respect and good will towards the police in the foreseeable future?While in Italy (and probably in towns in other countries as well) people are singing on their balconies for medical workers, in Spain (Algaida, Mallorca) it's different:
Some historical parallel -- during the Spanish Flu in 1918-1919, measures were implemented to close schools, cinemas and bars, ban public events, and impose social distancing.
So there are a small number of people who are living through this a second time ; though it's doubtful many of them were old enough to remember it.
5 lessons on social distancing from the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic
One big lesson: You can’t give up early on social distancing.www.vox.com
"In response, states and cities across the country told people to do what we now know as social distancing. Schools, restaurants, and businesses were closed. Public gatherings were banned. People were told to isolate and quarantine. In some places, this lasted for months.
It worked. Things didn’t go perfectly — far from it, as some cities fared much worse than others, and people didn’t always obey what experts and officials were telling them. But studies show that the social distancing efforts helped slow the spread of the 1918 flu and reduce the mortality rate overall."
And we may need to keep our distance from others for some time to come. New computer modelling research from Harvard University, which has yet to be published in an academic journal, warns that it may be necessary for intermittent social distancing measures to be maintained into 2022 in the US unless other interventions such as vaccines, drug therapies and aggressive quarantine measures can be put into place. This is because while a one-off period of social distancing might delay the peak of the outbreak until later this year, there is likely to be a resurgence in cases towards the end of the year if the virus shows some seasonal variation.
And so say all of us.I hope that this crisis will last for as short a time as humanly feasible !!
This is the situation in the hospitals in Madrid. Simply horrifying
This is the situation in the hospitals in Madrid. Simply horrifying
Thank you. I should have researched a bit before I posted. I had heard of similar things happening in Italy. If a moderator feels that this video should be removed please take it down.I have no doubt that the situation in Madrid is horrible and terrifying. But a little bit of searching found some official denial. The newspapers I usually look at (El País and El Mundo) don’t seem to have responded to this, but one, La Vanguardia, a conservative Catalán newspaper, reports that officials have said it is not true. The head of Madrid Public Health says that there is still respirator capacity. But that of course doesn’t mean it won’t get to that point. And I am not saying the video is untrue, just that the official response is that it is not.
No dejan sin respiradores a los ingresados con coronavirus mayores de 65 años
Madrid, 24 mar (EFE).- En la Comunidad de Madrid no se están retirando respiradores artificiales a los hospitalizados con coronavirus mayores de 65 años para que loswww.lavanguardia.com
The article also suggests some political motivation, which seems possible but despicable in times like these.
An online search shows that there appear to be many of these similar allegations, relative to specific hospitals, but at this point, so far all the hospitals I have seen assert that they still have respirators.
Does anyone out there do Laughter Yoga?We know that people need comic relief to break the stress and anxiety. Laughter is the best medicine Is one of the first maxims my mother taught me.
But at the same time, several forum members were finding that the funny threads were interfering with the flow of the serious threads. So, we have combined all of the funny threads that we were able to locate into one repository of humor here. It is very long, so we have closed it and given instructions how to move on to the new thread.
And we have started a second round of humor threads.
Hope this works for people, and we encourage anyone who is reading all about the current crisis to keep an eye on the silly thread for some good comic release.
People watching me do yoga probably laugh.Does anyone out there do Laughter Yoga?
Well you got me to laugh, and I wasn't even watching!People watching me do yoga probably laugh.
This is the situation in the hospitals in Madrid. Simply horrifying
This is so sad....made me immediately try to think of how to help.This is the situation in the hospitals in Madrid. Simply horrifying
That is a problem. We do not know the source of this video and therefore we should not rely on it as an accurate source of information. Sometimes fiction is very close to the truth, but I think it is useful to know which we are watching.I looked to reply to the author but couldn't work out how to so can you please pass this on.
There has been a dramatic fall in the new cases number in Italy today -- it's down from 3,815 yesterday to 1,648 today (down 57%) -- that's lower than any daily number since 10th March.
Not sure where you are getting your numbers. Italy had 4000+ new cases yesterday and today.
Their big issue is, while new cases have somewhat stabilized, active cases still keep growing. Now 77,000+.
Reports are that deaths from the disease are down in Spain, France, and Italy.
I'm not sure what you mean by "down." There are still many deaths every day. There would have to be many fewer daily deaths to recognize a trend, I think.
El Pais is reporting that the number of deaths in Spain fell to 637 yesterday, the lowest number since March 24. Though the health officials say it is too early to celebrate, they say the curve is flattening a bit. It is the fourth straight day of decline. The article links to a graph that compares some of the countries with major covid outbreaks.I'm not sure what you mean by "down." There are still many deaths every day. There would have to be many fewer daily deaths to recognize a trend, I think.
Netflix is set to launch a weekly Instagram Live series centered on maintaining mental and physical health amid the coronavirus pandemic. The series will kick off tonight at 7pm PT and will feature stars from Netflix features including 13 Reasons Why, Stranger Things, and Cheer. The limited series will run through May 14th on the @Netflix Instagram account. TECHCRUNCH Who better qualified to talk to us about mental health than actors |
Spain will slowly return to “normal life” starting on April 26, says government
Technical experts will decide on the conditions of the gradual deescalation of confinement measures introduced to combat the spread of the coronavirusenglish.elpais.com
Life in Spain will slowly begin to return to normal after the state of alarm, introduced three weeks ago to slow the coronavirus outbreak, comes to an end on April 26. That’s according to Finance Minister and government spokesperson María Jesús Montero.
I believe here in US they are "targeting" April 12 (Easter Sunday of all days) as the peak.Whilst both the number of new cases in Italy and the variation number in positive cases have risen over the past two days from previous lows, the number of recoveries from the disease has in the past few days started to rise dramatically.
Not out of the woods yet by far ; but it's quite clear that the peak has been passed.
Spain, Austria, and a few other places are announcing limited opening of non-essential businesses next week. I am sure that many will be watching to see what the consequences are.
And how I yearn not to ...
Heard something last week about CPAPs being modified in UK to be used for ventilating. I have heard about other creative midifications from various places but then I never hear anything more about what it leads--are governments using these inventions?This is so sad....made me immediately try to think of how to help.
I looked to reply to the author but couldn't work out how to so can you please pass this on.
Our love and thoughts from Australia are with you all.
In Australia Resmed, the people who make CPAP machines have approached the government and their offer of quickly converting their production lines to making ventilators has been accepted and they are working on them around the clock.
There must be many other companies who could do this in Spain.
Secondly, paraphrasing from a Sydney Morning Herald article today, a Professor Rod McClure, Dean of Medicine at the Uni of New England has just, with a team of doctors from Armidale Hospital, fast tracked a project and purchased 200 home monitors that are of ICU quality and monitor heart rate, temperature, oxygen saturation, blood pressure and breathing.
These then, from the patient's home, can transmit to a "flight deck" in the hospital where (supported by AI) doctors and nurses who can monitor each one, can pick up that a patient's condition is worsening.
Changes to blood pressure are an early warning sign of sepsis or organ damage and changes to oxygen saturation typically occur before pneumonia sets in...
Thirdly, I think that the European Airbus base manufacturing facilities that produce the in-plane emergency breathing systems for aircraft that can cover hundreds of people at a time, could surely produce the individual beds as per the first and business class seating and the systems that would provide for central monitoring and individual ventilation at each seat.
These could be set up in emergency temporary areas such as Convention centres.
They should have plenty of spare capacity now that the planes have effectively stopped flying.
That would be a solution nearer to home that the EEC can manage - if nothing else Airbus has the tubes, masks and monitoring equipment and they can engineer large scale systems that could be set up in large temporary facilities etc.
Just a thought and love to the Spanish people - we will see you as soon as we can on a Camino!
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Jabbapappa, do you have a source for that please? Interested minds .......
No one knows as a fact when things will begin the slow re-opening. And it will be slow.My husband and I have been planning on walking the Primitivo in August. I've read in several places that the bell curve on this virus is approximately 8-10 weeks. Given that it started in Spain in early March, are we delusional to continue to hope? Is there anything official stating that all Caminos are out of the question for the rest of 2020?
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