norfolk-keith
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The only time I didn't have my wallet with me was when I showered so be warned take your money, cards even to the shower,
I would like to mention the true Pilgrims that I met after that that were so helpful, friendly that touched the soul, Jose, Audrey, Anastasia, Bia at the Albergue in Estella, thank you guys for giving the strength to make it to Santiago.
Of course, it might've been an actual pilgrim, but I've read that sometimes thieves pretend to be pilgrims to access albergues and steal things. Sorry your trip went poorly.
I've always tried to remember that just about everything I have can be replaced - money, credit cards, even passports. However, the one thing that is irreplaceable and would break my heart if it got lost or stolen is my credencial. I always carry it with me and check it numerous times a day.Sorry to hear about this.
I was robbed going home from my camino in 2007 on the train from the airport in Barcelona. Lost my passport, money, cards and so on. I was not alone at the policeoffice at Sants, several people had been robbed on their way from the airport.
This incident made me very suspicious, every time I stay in crowded places, I react if somebody come too close, on later caminos I always bring my valuables with me everywhere, even in the shower. And I do bring a copy of my passport which I,did´t do in 2007.
Some years a go, walking on Camino Norte, I met a man who told me that the whole albergue he stayed at in France had been robbed during the night, all backpacks had disappeared. He thought they had been gassed.The local police had given them a small backpack to help them out. Life is not always easy, even not on the camino.
I would be quite confident that it was not another Pilgrim who was walking to Santiago. It was someone who was posing as a pilgrim in the albergue, for this purpose.I couldn't believe that a Pilgrim could steal from another Pilgrim.
This was a very unfortunate and unhappy event. But thefts have happened on the Camino and off, for centuries. You had bad luck - first from your accident that left you vulnerable and secondly from being found by a thief. This was not particularly the result of Covid, so please don't delay your return on that account!unfortunately I don't trust anyone now and I'm planning to come back in a couple of years time once Covid has less of an impact than it currently has.
This is disappointing. Let's hope that they took your report seriously - even if they figured they were unable to recover your items, perhaps they will be more watchful, so it is important that you reported it!the Albergue didn't give a dam, the local police shrugged their shoulders
Amen! Thankfully I learned this on the forum before my first Camino. My valables never leave my waistpack all day, which never leaves my waist, and are never kept in my backpack. It also "follows" me into the shower and end of day my waistpack goes in the bottom of my sleeping bag. It is never left unattended....have I said enough?Always, always take valuables with you everywhere: showers, quick bit to eat, everywhere
sad to hear that, sadly the Camino seems to gather unsavory people with no conscience of what will this individual do if I take all his his means of survival.I'm not long back from my Camino last month and I must say of the four Caminos I've walked this one left a bitter taste.
Now don't get me wrong I love walking the Camino and everything about it, Albergues, Sights, Churches and Cathedrals and the space when you want it but this time it was other Pilgrims that let it down.
I had been involved in an accident in the first week and had to have surgery on my elbow it was pretty horrific and I was faced with the dilemma of do I return home or not. The hospital and staff were incredibly helpful and so supportive it didn't take me long to decide to continue. I knew it wasn't going to be easy especially with my arm in a sling but I I just took my time and rested when I needed to. The crunch came on the stage into Logrono, I was booked into the Santiago Apostle Albergue which was ok, nothing special but I was feeling delicate and needed to stop. Everything started off ok, sorted out my kit and went for something to eat but the thing I needed most was sleep. When I got back I showered and went to bed and being dosed up with painkillers and antibiotics it wasn't long before I was asleep. In the morning most were rushing around getting dressed around 6am I just took things slowly in packing my gear and that's when I found out someone had stolen my wallet from my rucksack, money, bank card, credit card all gone I couldn't believe that a Pilgrim could steal from another Pilgrim. I was left with 9 Euros in change, the Albergue didn't give a dam, the local police shrugged their shoulders and it was only through my girlfriend back in England sending me money through Western Union was I able to carry on.
The only time I didn't have my wallet with me was when I showered so be warned take your money, cards even to the shower, unfortunately I don't trust anyone now and I'm planning to come back in a couple of years time once Covid has less of an impact than it currently has.
I would like to mention the true Pilgrims that I met after that that were so helpful, friendly that touched the soul, Jose, Audrey, Anastasia, Bia at the Albergue in Estella, thank you guys for giving the strength to make it to Santiago. Buen Camino
I am very sorry to hear this, @norfolk-keith. It’s a bad experience, but fortunately I think it is a one-off. I say that based on personal experience and a number of first hand stories on the forum.the local police shrugged their shoulders
Are you still on the camino? or was this an earlier incident?I'm not long back from my Camino last month and I must say of the four Caminos I've walked this one left a bitter taste.
Now don't get me wrong I love walking the Camino and everything about it, Albergues, Sights, Churches and Cathedrals and the space when you want it but this time it was other Pilgrims that let it down.
I had been involved in an accident in the first week and had to have surgery on my elbow it was pretty horrific and I was faced with the dilemma of do I return home or not. The hospital and staff were incredibly helpful and so supportive it didn't take me long to decide to continue. I knew it wasn't going to be easy especially with my arm in a sling but I I just took my time and rested when I needed to. The crunch came on the stage into Logrono, I was booked into the Santiago Apostle Albergue which was ok, nothing special but I was feeling delicate and needed to stop. Everything started off ok, sorted out my kit and went for something to eat but the thing I needed most was sleep. When I got back I showered and went to bed and being dosed up with painkillers and antibiotics it wasn't long before I was asleep. In the morning most were rushing around getting dressed around 6am I just took things slowly in packing my gear and that's when I found out someone had stolen my wallet from my rucksack, money, bank card, credit card all gone I couldn't believe that a Pilgrim could steal from another Pilgrim. I was left with 9 Euros in change, the Albergue didn't give a dam, the local police shrugged their shoulders and it was only through my girlfriend back in England sending me money through Western Union was I able to carry on.
The only time I didn't have my wallet with me was when I showered so be warned take your money, cards even to the shower, unfortunately I don't trust anyone now and I'm planning to come back in a couple of years time once Covid has less of an impact than it currently has.
I would like to mention the true Pilgrims that I met after that that were so helpful, friendly that touched the soul, Jose, Audrey, Anastasia, Bia at the Albergue in Estella, thank you guys for giving the strength to make it to Santiago. Buen Camino
Sorry I just saw you are back homeAre you still on the camino? or was this an earlier incident?
I am so sorry this happened the injury and theft. Realistically what could the Albergue or even the Police do about a quick theft?Unfortunately no matter where you travel you have to keep your valuables with you including using a waterproof bag for your valuables in the shower or a trusted person watching over them while you shower. Whenever wherever you travel precautions and awareness are a must, I do not believe the Camino is a mystical place that has a special protection over it that keeps all the bad people away. That being said as you well know there are always wonderful people around that will try to give help to others, let those memories shine.I'm not long back from my Camino last month and I must say of the four Caminos I've walked this one left a bitter taste.
Now don't get me wrong I love walking the Camino and everything about it, Albergues, Sights, Churches and Cathedrals and the space when you want it but this time it was other Pilgrims that let it down.
I had been involved in an accident in the first week and had to have surgery on my elbow it was pretty horrific and I was faced with the dilemma of do I return home or not. The hospital and staff were incredibly helpful and so supportive it didn't take me long to decide to continue. I knew it wasn't going to be easy especially with my arm in a sling but I I just took my time and rested when I needed to. The crunch came on the stage into Logrono, I was booked into the Santiago Apostle Albergue which was ok, nothing special but I was feeling delicate and needed to stop. Everything started off ok, sorted out my kit and went for something to eat but the thing I needed most was sleep. When I got back I showered and went to bed and being dosed up with painkillers and antibiotics it wasn't long before I was asleep. In the morning most were rushing around getting dressed around 6am I just took things slowly in packing my gear and that's when I found out someone had stolen my wallet from my rucksack, money, bank card, credit card all gone I couldn't believe that a Pilgrim could steal from another Pilgrim. I was left with 9 Euros in change, the Albergue didn't give a dam, the local police shrugged their shoulders and it was only through my girlfriend back in England sending me money through Western Union was I able to carry on.
The only time I didn't have my wallet with me was when I showered so be warned take your money, cards even to the shower, unfortunately I don't trust anyone now and I'm planning to come back in a couple of years time once Covid has less of an impact than it currently has.
I would like to mention the true Pilgrims that I met after that that were so helpful, friendly that touched the soul, Jose, Audrey, Anastasia, Bia at the Albergue in Estella, thank you guys for giving the strength to make it to Santiago. Buen Camino
As magical as the Camino may feel, it's still part of the real world!I do not believe the Camino is a mystical place that has a special protection over it that keeps all the bad people away.
Sorry this happened to you. I always took a dry bag with my fresh clothes, towel, soap, passport, wallet, pilgrim's passport, phone, etc., when I showered. I used a hero clip to hang my dry bag from edge of the door. I slept with my wallet and passport. I'm in a foreign country, far from home, surrounded by strangers...no way I'm taking a chance and having to deal with that nonsense. I've always been a bit paranoid when it comes to my wallet, passport, phone, etc., but it has served me well. I met some great people on the camino, no doubt there were amazing pilgrims that you met along the way, but there is always that camouflaged douche that infiltrates the crowd-and one is all it takes. Learn from this and move on. God bless and buen future caminos.I'm not long back from my Camino last month and I must say of the four Caminos I've walked this one left a bitter taste.
Now don't get me wrong I love walking the Camino and everything about it, Albergues, Sights, Churches and Cathedrals and the space when you want it but this time it was other Pilgrims that let it down.
I had been involved in an accident in the first week and had to have surgery on my elbow it was pretty horrific and I was faced with the dilemma of do I return home or not. The hospital and staff were incredibly helpful and so supportive it didn't take me long to decide to continue. I knew it wasn't going to be easy especially with my arm in a sling but I I just took my time and rested when I needed to. The crunch came on the stage into Logrono, I was booked into the Santiago Apostle Albergue which was ok, nothing special but I was feeling delicate and needed to stop. Everything started off ok, sorted out my kit and went for something to eat but the thing I needed most was sleep. When I got back I showered and went to bed and being dosed up with painkillers and antibiotics it wasn't long before I was asleep. In the morning most were rushing around getting dressed around 6am I just took things slowly in packing my gear and that's when I found out someone had stolen my wallet from my rucksack, money, bank card, credit card all gone I couldn't believe that a Pilgrim could steal from another Pilgrim. I was left with 9 Euros in change, the Albergue didn't give a dam, the local police shrugged their shoulders and it was only through my girlfriend back in England sending me money through Western Union was I able to carry on.
The only time I didn't have my wallet with me was when I showered so be warned take your money, cards even to the shower, unfortunately I don't trust anyone now and I'm planning to come back in a couple of years time once Covid has less of an impact than it currently has.
I would like to mention the true Pilgrims that I met after that that were so helpful, friendly that touched the soul, Jose, Audrey, Anastasia, Bia at the Albergue in Estella, thank you guys for giving the strength to make it to Santiago. Buen Camino
I am so sorry that happened. Thieves are the worst. Glad you finished and way to go!! It's great that you persevered.I'm not long back from my Camino last month and I must say of the four Caminos I've walked this one left a bitter taste.
Now don't get me wrong I love walking the Camino and everything about it, Albergues, Sights, Churches and Cathedrals and the space when you want it but this time it was other Pilgrims that let it down.
I had been involved in an accident in the first week and had to have surgery on my elbow it was pretty horrific and I was faced with the dilemma of do I return home or not. The hospital and staff were incredibly helpful and so supportive it didn't take me long to decide to continue. I knew it wasn't going to be easy especially with my arm in a sling but I I just took my time and rested when I needed to. The crunch came on the stage into Logrono, I was booked into the Santiago Apostle Albergue which was ok, nothing special but I was feeling delicate and needed to stop. Everything started off ok, sorted out my kit and went for something to eat but the thing I needed most was sleep. When I got back I showered and went to bed and being dosed up with painkillers and antibiotics it wasn't long before I was asleep. In the morning most were rushing around getting dressed around 6am I just took things slowly in packing my gear and that's when I found out someone had stolen my wallet from my rucksack, money, bank card, credit card all gone I couldn't believe that a Pilgrim could steal from another Pilgrim. I was left with 9 Euros in change, the Albergue didn't give a dam, the local police shrugged their shoulders and it was only through my girlfriend back in England sending me money through Western Union was I able to carry on.
The only time I didn't have my wallet with me was when I showered so be warned take your money, cards even to the shower, unfortunately I don't trust anyone now and I'm planning to come back in a couple of years time once Covid has less of an impact than it currently has.
I would like to mention the true Pilgrims that I met after that that were so helpful, friendly that touched the soul, Jose, Audrey, Anastasia, Bia at the Albergue in Estella, thank you guys for giving the strength to make it to Santiago. Buen Camino
So sorry to read this.I'm not long back from my Camino last month and I must say of the four Caminos I've walked this one left a bitter taste.
Now don't get me wrong I love walking the Camino and everything about it, Albergues, Sights, Churches and Cathedrals and the space when you want it but this time it was other Pilgrims that let it down.
I had been involved in an accident in the first week and had to have surgery on my elbow it was pretty horrific and I was faced with the dilemma of do I return home or not. The hospital and staff were incredibly helpful and so supportive it didn't take me long to decide to continue. I knew it wasn't going to be easy especially with my arm in a sling but I I just took my time and rested when I needed to. The crunch came on the stage into Logrono, I was booked into the Santiago Apostle Albergue which was ok, nothing special but I was feeling delicate and needed to stop. Everything started off ok, sorted out my kit and went for something to eat but the thing I needed most was sleep. When I got back I showered and went to bed and being dosed up with painkillers and antibiotics it wasn't long before I was asleep. In the morning most were rushing around getting dressed around 6am I just took things slowly in packing my gear and that's when I found out someone had stolen my wallet from my rucksack, money, bank card, credit card all gone I couldn't believe that a Pilgrim could steal from another Pilgrim. I was left with 9 Euros in change, the Albergue didn't give a dam, the local police shrugged their shoulders and it was only through my girlfriend back in England sending me money through Western Union was I able to carry on.
The only time I didn't have my wallet with me was when I showered so be warned take your money, cards even to the shower, unfortunately I don't trust anyone now and I'm planning to come back in a couple of years time once Covid has less of an impact than it currently has.
I would like to mention the true Pilgrims that I met after that that were so helpful, friendly that touched the soul, Jose, Audrey, Anastasia, Bia at the Albergue in Estella, thank you guys for giving the strength to make it to Santiago. Buen Camino
Please bear in mind that it is not unknown for thieves to slit the bottom of sleeping bags to steal your valuables.Amen! Thankfully I learned this on the forum before my first Camino. My valables never leave my waistpack all day, which never leaves my waist, and are never kept in my backpack. It also "follows" me into the shower and end of day my waistpack goes in the bottom of my sleeping bag. It is never left unattended....have I said enough?
Then I'm doomed. I guess I'll have to take my chances...or do you have any suggestions?Please bear in mind that it is not unknown for thieves to slit the bottom of sleeping bags to steal your valuables.
Don't shove it all the way down to the bottom!Then I'm doomed. I guess I'll have to take my chances...or do you have any suggestions?
My boots and wet socks are down there to dry (old army trick). You are welcome to help yourself stealing my old socks. A warning: My valuables are close to my head. Together with my knife. Be my guest. Make my day. I am old and dangerous.Don't shove it all the way down to the bottom!
A few years ago, the police apprehended a gang from Bilbao doing precisely that - wandering into one of the larger, more crowded albergues and wandering out with a wallet or mobile before being recognised or challenged. It is a common modus operandi for pickpockets. The advice (if you are a lone pilgrim) would be take your small valuables with you into the bathroom, or ask someone who is obviously another pilgrim to watch them for you.I would be quite confident that it was not another Pilgrim who was walking to Santiago. It was someone who was posing as a pilgrim in the albergue, for this purpose.
This was a very unfortunate and unhappy event. But thefts have happened on the Camino and off, for centuries. You had bad luck - first from your accident that left you vulnerable and secondly from being found by a thief. This was not particularly the result of Covid, so please don't delay your return on that account!
This is disappointing. Let's hope that they took your report seriously - even if they figured they were unable to recover your items, perhaps they will be more watchful, so it is important that you reported it!
I hope your arm heals well, and quickly.
This is so sad. I'm nonetheless grateful that you shared this story as thievery has been a featureI'm not long back from my Camino last month and I must say of the four Caminos I've walked this one left a bitter taste.
Now don't get me wrong I love walking the Camino and everything about it, Albergues, Sights, Churches and Cathedrals and the space when you want it but this time it was other Pilgrims that let it down.
I had been involved in an accident in the first week and had to have surgery on my elbow it was pretty horrific and I was faced with the dilemma of do I return home or not. The hospital and staff were incredibly helpful and so supportive it didn't take me long to decide to continue. I knew it wasn't going to be easy especially with my arm in a sling but I I just took my time and rested when I needed to. The crunch came on the stage into Logrono, I was booked into the Santiago Apostle Albergue which was ok, nothing special but I was feeling delicate and needed to stop. Everything started off ok, sorted out my kit and went for something to eat but the thing I needed most was sleep. When I got back I showered and went to bed and being dosed up with painkillers and antibiotics it wasn't long before I was asleep. In the morning most were rushing around getting dressed around 6am I just took things slowly in packing my gear and that's when I found out someone had stolen my wallet from my rucksack, money, bank card, credit card all gone I couldn't believe that a Pilgrim could steal from another Pilgrim. I was left with 9 Euros in change, the Albergue didn't give a dam, the local police shrugged their shoulders and it was only through my girlfriend back in England sending me money through Western Union was I able to carry on.
The only time I didn't have my wallet with me was when I showered so be warned take your money, cards even to the shower, unfortunately I don't trust anyone now and I'm planning to come back in a couple of years time once Covid has less of an impact than it currently has.
I would like to mention the true Pilgrims that I met after that that were so helpful, friendly that touched the soul, Jose, Audrey, Anastasia, Bia at the Albergue in Estella, thank you guys for giving the strength to make it to Santiago. Buen Camino
Really? This has actually happened? Without the sleeper knowing? Any sliced toes in the process?Please bear in mind that it is not unknown for thieves to slit the bottom of sleeping bags to steal your valuables.
Camino Chrissy, I do the same thing. I keep my butt pack with my stuff in the bottom of my sleeping bag when I sleep. If the thief is THAT determined to slit the bag WHILE I SLEEP INSIDE IT . . . well, I guess I wouldn't argue at that point.Then I'm doomed. I guess I'll have to take my chances...or do you have any suggestions?
Your intention sounds great! Buen Camino!!Fellow Pilgrims
Thank you for your kind words and thoughts they are much appreciated. I have always looked upon my fellow Pilgrims as friends and will continue to do so but probably with a bit more caution now. I intend to return in 2022/3 depending on the Covid situation to walk one more time whilst I can and without the heartache and I intend walking all the way to Finisterre, this will be my birthday wish and present to myself. Buen Camino Friends
I'm not long back from my Camino last month and I must say of the four Caminos I've walked this one left a bitter taste.
Now don't get me wrong I love walking the Camino and everything about it, Albergues, Sights, Churches and Cathedrals and the space when you want it but this time it was other Pilgrims that let it down.
I had been involved in an accident in the first week and had to have surgery on my elbow it was pretty horrific and I was faced with the dilemma of do I return home or not. The hospital and staff were incredibly helpful and so supportive it didn't take me long to decide to continue. I knew it wasn't going to be easy especially with my arm in a sling but I I just took my time and rested when I needed to. The crunch came on the stage into Logrono, I was booked into the Santiago Apostle Albergue which was ok, nothing special but I was feeling delicate and needed to stop. Everything started off ok, sorted out my kit and went for something to eat but the thing I needed most was sleep. When I got back I showered and went to bed and being dosed up with painkillers and antibiotics it wasn't long before I was asleep. In the morning most were rushing around getting dressed around 6am I just took things slowly in packing my gear and that's when I found out someone had stolen my wallet from my rucksack, money, bank card, credit card all gone I couldn't believe that a Pilgrim could steal from another Pilgrim. I was left with 9 Euros in change, the Albergue didn't give a dam, the local police shrugged their shoulders and it was only through my girlfriend back in England sending me money through Western Union was I able to carry on.
The only time I didn't have my wallet with me was when I showered so be warned take your money, cards even to the shower, unfortunately I don't trust anyone now and I'm planning to come back in a couple of years time once Covid has less of an impact than it currently has.
I would like to mention the true Pilgrims that I met after that that were so helpful, friendly that touched the soul, Jose, Audrey, Anastasia, Bia at the Albergue in Estella, thank you guys for giving the strength to make it to Santiago. Buen Camino
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