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....then i have just completed 300kms on the Norte from Irun to Santander with a 25lt pack weighing 3.5kgs (before food and water) and i didn't want for anything! Actually, i could have left a couple of things behind
If you want to make your life easier, and believe me, unless you're fit, then the norte is quite a challenge even with 3.5kgs!, then you really DO NOT WANT 9-10kgs on your back as so many seem to do.
I am an experienced long-distance walker and i know that if I'm not camping, then i need carry very little.
The most important thing i think is to go for the silk-liner over the sleeping bag. As soon as you go for the bag, you need a bigger pack and when you've got a bigger pack then you tend to fill it!
So, 25lt pack, silk-liner, raincoat, and only one change of clothes: shorts, t-short and fleece.
NO SPARE PANTS or SOCKS! Yes, you read that correctly. When you arrive at the albergue, you wash your dirty walking clothes, you slip into your crocs and you go commando until your underpants are dry
You do not need 3 changes of clothes, believe me!
After that, its just a question of taking the minimum liquids and creams as possible....decanting sun-cream and toothpaste into smaller containers, and cutting your travel-towel in half...half is quite adequate!
So, hope this helps some people, but remember:
less kgs on your back = more smiles on your face
Buen camino
In Oslo there is a travel shop where you can buy silk liners in size single(85x220) medium (120x220) and double (160x220). Their netshop is at www.nomaden.no. Gives you a bit more room.What silk liner do you suggest?
I have yet to find one that didn't tangle me up and make me feel claustrophobic.
Annie - try out a double size liner - lovely to sleep in, no tangles and minimal weight difference (i couldn’t care less about the weight).What silk liner do you suggest?
I have yet to find one that didn't tangle me up and make me feel claustrophobic.
EEEEwww. Hope you had your own hotel room then.when it wasn't quite sunny enough, i either didn't wash them (!) or slept with them in my sack
Call it being smart about putting as much luck on your side. Many do not make it, no matter how pasionate, the memorials are there to remind us of it, and en there are al those with no memorials or those who had to head back home. Love your enthusiasm though.I'm always wondering when seeing all the posts about Weight ? don't the passion and Love you put in the Walks capable of overcoming all those hurdles ? ain't the Anxiety of Reaching Santiago and fulfilling your Camino capable of Making us forget the Long walks , The Feet Pain ect ,,,,, To Be Honest , Right now with all the Tons of work i should finish before the camino , and With Less Physical preparation , I'm still feel that since Driven by A the passion of the Camino , I will do it no matter what , Since No Matter what will Happen , whether I got injured , tired ect I will keep Going
How about: (for the more childishly inclined among us)
Black socks,
They never get dirty
The longer you wear them
The blacker they get.
Sometimes I think I should wash them,
But something keeps telling me
"No, no, not yet."
It's a bit of nonsense my daughter came home with from kids' camp years ago. She's grown now, and I had to get her to remind me of the words.hahahaa Nice one
It's a bit of nonsense my daughter came home with from kids' camp years ago. She's grown now, and I had to get her to remind me of the words.
I'm always wondering when seeing all the posts about Weight ? don't the passion and Love you put in the Walks capable of overcoming all those hurdles ? ain't the Anxiety of Reaching Santiago and fulfilling your Camino capable of Making us forget the Long walks , The Feet Pain ect ,,,,, To Be Honest , Right now with all the Tons of work i should finish before the camino , and With Less Physical preparation , I'm still feel that since Driven by A the passion of the Camino , I will do it no matter what , Since No Matter what will Happen , whether I got injured , tired ect I will keep Going
How about: (for the more childishly inclined among us)
Black socks,
They never get dirty
The longer you wear them
The blacker they get.
Sometimes I think I should wash them,
But something keeps telling me
"No, no, not yet."
Annie I'm on Vancouver Island, Canada so we have Mountain Equipment Coop here; similar to REI in U.S.What silk liner do you suggest?
I have yet to find one that didn't tangle me up and make me feel claustrophobic.
I tried the silk liner from REI. Had the same experience as you. Returned it. I bought silk and had a friend make me one with a long zipper on the side which makes it easy to get in and out of. Also a small pocket at head just the size of a little blow-up pillow I have. The zipper does make it a little heavier but worth it to me. The silk was also a slight bit heavier than the extremely thin REI one.What silk liner do you suggest?
I have yet to find one that didn't tangle me up and make me feel claustrophobic.
I've used them for three years now and they're perfect.Small microfiber kitchentowels takes up more water, weigh less and are cheeper than travel towels.
....then i have just completed 300kms on the Norte from Irun to Santander with a 25lt pack weighing 3.5kgs (before food and water) and i didn't want for anything! Actually, i could have left a couple of things behind
If you want to make your life easier, and believe me, unless you're fit, then the norte is quite a challenge even with 3.5kgs!, then you really DO NOT WANT 9-10kgs on your back as so many seem to do.
I am an experienced long-distance walker and i know that if I'm not camping, then i need carry very little.
The most important thing i think is to go for the silk-liner over the sleeping bag. As soon as you go for the bag, you need a bigger pack and when you've got a bigger pack then you tend to fill it!
So, 25lt pack, silk-liner, raincoat, and only one change of clothes: shorts, t-short and fleece.
NO SPARE PANTS or SOCKS! Yes, you read that correctly. When you arrive at the albergue, you wash your dirty walking clothes, you slip into your crocs and you go commando until your underpants are dry
You do not need 3 changes of clothes, believe me!
After that, its just a question of taking the minimum liquids and creams as possible....decanting sun-cream and toothpaste into smaller containers, and cutting your travel-towel in half...half is quite adequate!
So, hope this helps some people, but remember:
less kgs on your back = more smiles on your face
Buen camino
Less is best. The lightest lightest load I ran into was a woman with just what she had on. It seemed to work.....then i have just completed 300kms on the Norte from Irun to Santander with a 25lt pack weighing 3.5kgs (before food and water) and i didn't want for anything! Actually, i could have left a couple of things behind
If you want to make your life easier, and believe me, unless you're fit, then the norte is quite a challenge even with 3.5kgs!, then you really DO NOT WANT 9-10kgs on your back as so many seem to do.
I am an experienced long-distance walker and i know that if I'm not camping, then i need carry very little.
The most important thing i think is to go for the silk-liner over the sleeping bag. As soon as you go for the bag, you need a bigger pack and when you've got a bigger pack then you tend to fill it!
So, 25lt pack, silk-liner, raincoat, and only one change of clothes: shorts, t-short and fleece.
NO SPARE PANTS or SOCKS! Yes, you read that correctly. When you arrive at the albergue, you wash your dirty walking clothes, you slip into your crocs and you go commando until your underpants are dry
You do not need 3 changes of clothes, believe me!
After that, its just a question of taking the minimum liquids and creams as possible....decanting sun-cream and toothpaste into smaller containers, and cutting your travel-towel in half...half is quite adequate!
So, hope this helps some people, but remember:
less kgs on your back = more smiles on your face
Buen camino
Did you get lower than 10lb or down to 10 lb? Either way, it is great! Which Osprey do you have? I have a Talon 33 and agree that it's awkward to get the water. I can just reach, but with some difficulty. Since I'm walking in October-November, I don't need to access it quite as much as I would in hotter weather.have got the pack down from 10 to lbs and still have everything I need…..
I love my Osprey pack except for the water bottle location; hard to reach,
whoops…meant to say that I got it from 10lb to 8 lb. I have the Kyte 36L. This morning was not too bad; I was able to maneuver it okay, but I'll still try the waist option for the water. I'm on the trail last week of Sept. all of Oct, edging into Nov 2nd (hopefully in Santiago) for the big birthday!!Did you get lower than 10lb or down to 10 lb? Either way, it is great! Which Osprey do you have? I have a Talon 33 and agree that it's awkward to get the water. I can just reach, but with some difficulty. Since I'm walking in October-November, I don't need to access it quite as much as I would in hotter weather.
Wow! 8 pounds is really low. I assume no sleeping bag. Will you be staying in albergues?I got it from 10lb to 8 lb
My husband and I used a dreamsack from Yaladesigns. You can see them here: http://www.yaladesigns.com/extra-roomy-opening-dreamsack .... The ones we chose for ourselves were the oversized design with a weight of 8 oz. A little bit wider and maybe longer then the usual liners but it was the width I was interested in. Very comfy and my husband used his almost every night. I found I only needed to use it as a sheet. Opened wide I could stick my feet in the feet "pocket" and spread it sheet wise over top. In the heat we had during our Camino it was perfect. The only thing I didn't like that much was the velco tabs used to close it, they were a tiny bit prickly but not overly so ... ties might have been nicer but not as convenient for quick opening and closing. The extra width gave enough room that I never felt I was tangled or confined. I am one of those people as well, who get hot feet in bed so being able to stick them out through the tabbed openings was wonderful. Ultra lightweight and compact in it's bag. We recommend them and are now using them on our boat.What silk liner do you suggest?
I have yet to find one that didn't tangle me up and make me feel claustrophobic.
I found the same thing with my osprey pack it is a stretch to reach the water bottle. What I have done is buy the osprey rev solo and wear it as a belly pack then put my rucksack on over it this gives me water easily accessible on a side note when I contacted osprey to find out about buying a second bottle for the belt they very nicely sent me on for free when I explained why I needed it I now have a bottle at my waist and a spare in the bagWith several training walks here, have got the pack down from 10 to lbs and still have everything I need…..
I love my Osprey pack except for the water bottle location; hard to reach, so will rig up a waist belt with one.
How about: (for the more childishly inclined among us)
Black socks,
They never get dirty
The longer you wear them
The blacker they get.
Sometimes I think I should wash them,
But something keeps telling me
"No, no, not yet."
Commando might be great for guys but not for girls. If you are out more than 20 days means that you will have your period :-/
Would never happen. Caminoists are far, far too polite.And then you take the ear plugs out and hear everybody going "Phew!")
You might consider the option below, and using the 'S' hook to attach the water bottle to the strap of your pack - making the water bottle easily accessible while walking. A forum member mentioned that the metal bottle could double as a hot water bottle at night, if necessary. Mind you, the one night I could have benefited from this, the albergue had run out of hot water.I love my Osprey pack except for the water bottle location; hard to reach, so will rig up a waist belt with one.
Try the Smartube to access water while the bottle sits on the side of your Osprey.I found the same thing with my osprey pack it is a stretch to reach the water bottle. What I have done is buy the osprey rev solo and wear it as a belly pack then put my rucksack on over it this gives me water easily accessible on a side note when I contacted osprey to find out about buying a second bottle for the belt they very nicely sent me on for free when I explained why I needed it I now have a bottle at my waist and a spare in the bag
What is the 'Smartube' ?Try the Smartube to access water while the bottle sits on the side of your Osprey.
You might consider the option below, and using the 'S' hook to attach the water bottle to the strap of your pack - making the water bottle easily accessible while walking. A forum member mentioned that the metal bottle could double as a hot water bottle at night, if necessary. Mind you, the one night I could have benefited from this, the albergue had run out of hot water.
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Try the Smartube to access water while the bottle sits on the side of your Osprey.
Google it, you will find photos on sites that sell it like Amazon. It's 2 different size bottle caps and one adapter, with a whole through which you pass a tube si,ilar to the one used with bladders. Tube goes in water bottle, not a bladder, so same easy access to water tha with bladder, but much easier to refill the bottles than the bladder. 20$ or so. Expensive when you think of the pennies it costs to manufacture, but works great and adds minimal weight to what you carry.What is the 'Smartube' ?
Less is best. The lightest lightest load I ran into was a woman with just what she had on. It seemed to work.
Thanks for the suggestion, but it is not a system I would want. I'll try the S hook…….Google it, you will find photos on sites that sell it like Amazon. It's 2 different size bottle caps and one adapter, with a whole through which you pass a tube si,ilar to the one used with bladders. Tube goes in water bottle, not a bladder, so same easy access to water tha with bladder, but much easier to refill the bottles than the bladder. 20$ or so. Expensive when you think of the pennies it costs to manufacture, but works great and adds minimal weight to what you carry.
For some it works for some not. Changing can be a messy thing and public toilets (even in albergues) doesn't always have running water in the same room as the toilet it self. They should be stored in a cool and dark place when not used. It isn't so cool inside your backpack. I prefer not to use cup or tampons during the camino.Moon cup?
Actually I know some (Royal Marine) Commandos and they favour Norwegian military underwear . . . .
With several training walks here, have got the pack down from 10 to lbs and still have everything I need…..
I love my Osprey pack except for the water bottle location; hard to reach, so will rig up a waist belt with one.
I know you said it wasn't a serious suggestion, but seriously one could easily walk the CF during the summer with only that kit (and a couple of toiletries, obviously).It's funny this morning I was putting away all the things we used on the Portuguese last month and came upon the little blue "gym bag" we'd picked up in SdC to carry our shopping in (hate using plastic bags) and I thought mmmmm . . .
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That's an Altus raincoat, 124 x 100 cm towel, spare trousers, silk liner, two pair pants, two pair socks, one pair evening socks, two tee-shirts, wash kit
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Now I know I can wear my Merrell hiking shoes all day, change socks and wear them in the evening. Would be wearing a light fleece and maybe a rain jacket (or tied around waist).
Obviously there's odds and ends like phone chargers, food and water but then what did the British army invent cargo pockets in trousers for? ;o)
Weighs in at 2.23kg and is NOT a serious suggestion!
Google it, you will find photos on sites that sell it like Amazon. It's 2 different size bottle caps and one adapter, with a whole through which you pass a tube si,ilar to the one used with bladders. Tube goes in water bottle, not a bladder, so same easy access to water tha with bladder, but much easier to refill the bottles than the bladder. 20$ or so. Expensive when you think of the pennies it costs to manufacture, but works great and adds minimal weight to what you carry.
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