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I love the last line of the response quoted. Please: what do you want? To walk caminos? To make pilgrimages? Forgive me, my eldest brother dropped dead recently. Please decide what is your priority, then take your place in the queue. And frame your compostela. They are works of art.I see no problem with the Distance Certificates though I don't see how you can claim two for walking the same Camino on the same day. The Compostela acknowledges the arrival of the Pilgrim, in a sense of piety etc, at the Cathedral of St James. I guess that if you can clearly demonstrate that you have walked into Santiago on 4 different routes on four different dates then you may be awarded with four.
However, I would advise you to get to the Pilgrims Office as early in the day as you possibly can. You are going to cause one hell of a hiccup in the queue.
Pushing aside all other thoughts that I had when I read about your planCan an individual work towards two Caminos at the same time. For example, Camino Madrid and Camino Frances both cover the same path (partly). As you would walk (from Sahagun on), you're stamping two different credentials, getting credit for two different Caminos, but only covering that stage once. I would think that there would be an issue at albergues/lodging trying to present 2 credentials for stamps on each and then when getting to Santiago, presenting 2 credentials with stamps & dates that match each other.
And obviously two stamps per day and per credential for the last 100 km before Santiago but there the opportunities for stamping are plentiful anyway.You need only one stamp per day and per credential, you can get stamps from your accommodation, from bars, restaurants, churches, shops. And in general, commercial lodgings and other businesses will stamp anythi
There are limited options for anyone coming into Santiago having done some 'different' itineraries., I do not see this same option for the Camino de Madrid and a number of other caminos.
No judgement on your plans, as each to their own.Other version- Fly into Madrid early March, begin Camino de Madrid, north to Sahagun, west to Ponferrada. Pause C-d-Madrid, begin Camino Invierno (avoiding O Cebreiro during early spring snow). Arrive Santiago, fly to Bilbao, train to Irun, begin and finish Camino Norte. Arrive Santiago, bus to back to Ponferrada, resume C-d-Madrid. Arrive Santiago, bus down to Porto. Begin and finish Camino Portuguese. Arrive Santiago, enjoy the bag pipe player for all of three seconds (ugh), next morning get ticket # for the daily queue at the Pilgrim's office, present all four completed and valid credentials/passports for four Compostelas at the same time.
So if you needed to give yourself more time, this is the one bit you could change out. Delete this part, and perhaps do a shorter fourth camino as a separate entity, like the Ingles or the Sanabres from Ourense.Arrive Santiago, bus to back to Ponferrada, resume C-d-Madrid
Hi Michael,Wow, have a lively discussion going! Thank you all!
The distance certificates (along w/ the credential) are a nice token/momento/keepsake to bring back with me to the states, but is not the purpose of my intended (multiple) journey(s). It is being able to be on trail for as many days as possible and experience different Caminos from (traditional) start to finish, not just doing a bunch of 100km walks. But that's my approach to it.
I don't even allow myself to attach the patch on the pack unless the entire trail is done on foot!
Thank you for this clarification for all Caminos. My plans are to first do the CF. To include Muxia to Finisterre to SDC triangle. Next CP. And as physical ability allows, several others. No time constraints. Have been retired for over a year and lost my wife almost 2 years ago. She encouraged me to do my CF pilgrimage. But due to her medical situation I postponed it over 4 years plus 2 years for COVID. Plans are for May thru June 2022. Thanks again!Several of the folks above got the solution at least partially correct.
Major Point #1: YES, you CAN present multiple credencials for having completed multiple Caminos on the same day. You do not need to return 3 or 4 times. I have seen it done for 2 Caminos, so I imagine it can be done for more, provided it is for the same person.
Major Point #2: You CANNOT walk a stretch of a Camino and have it count for completing multiple Camino routes at the same time. For example, you cannot walk the Madrid into Leon and on to Santiago, and claim credit for the Madrid and Frances Routes in the same time frame. You must claim one or the other. You cannot have it both ways.
You have to walk the Sarria to Santiago stretch twice to qualify for the second Compostela. The same holds true for the Sanabres extension to the Via de la Plata and the Invierno routes. The same paradigm holds true for the Norte and Primitivo as well.
From your route descriptions above, it appears that you are planning to walk several discrete Caminos that all enter Santiago via a different direction. That is the key fact. This should pose no problem in requesting multiple Compostelas or Distance Certificates.
It is the final 100 km that holds the potential for abuse, accidental or otherwise. You cannot count the same route more than once in the same time period - with overlapping dates. If you repeat the same segment in sequence, on different dates in line with a different route, that is okay.
This said, following the rules, the Compostela is earned for walking the final 100 km of any route and ENDING at Plaza Obradoiro in Santiago. It does not matter for Compostela purposes how many km you walked before that. It DOES factor into the distance certificate.
Coincidentally, that is why the final 100 - 110 km from Ferrol, Sarria, and Tui are getting so popular.
I hope that I stated this all clearly and that it helps.
Tom
As others have suggested the clerk doing the distance certificates may not have tables ready for some of the routes proposed.
Except the 90 days permitted in the Schengen zone, unless you have a long term Visa or citizenship in a Schengen country.No time constraints.
Please, please don't remove the Norte from the list. It's unlike any of the other Caminos in the very best way and if anyone ever said to me they could only choose one Camino to do for a lifetime, I would always recommend the CdN.Throw Camino Norte overboard gains me 31 days which allows Paris for a week, slow walking the other Caminos, round trip through Fisterra & Muxia, and maybe 14 days volunteering @ the Pilgrim's Office (per Tomas' latest update to the Announcement info, its a consideration).
Many thanks for your well wishes!@danielgzepeda, may all your roads be straight.
Edited to say I hadn’t read all the comments before responding, I don’t mean to step on the suggestion to miss the Norte. I just really love the Norte BUT ONLY IF YOU TAKE THE E9 at every choice you get. The Norte is what you make of it! and agree the Primitivo is awesome!Please, please don't remove the Norte from the list. It's unlike any of the other Caminos in the very best way and if anyone ever said to me they could only choose one Camino to do for a lifetime, I would always recommend the CdN.
There are plenty of ways to cut a few days here and there on the 'Frances' without rushing it, while motoring through the last 100/40km (which you'll do twice on the CdM(CF)/CdN once they join) when beds are plentiful is really not a hardship. With your fitness level by the time you get there and experience with how your body handles long hikes, you can do the Arzua (or Melide) to Santiago stretch in a long day and have a comfy sleep when you arrive. And depending on how you've planned it, the day from Santiago to Porto can be a walking day and get you through the industrial portion of Porto to Maia without too much strain. Just saying - there are other ways to have and enjoy it all and still keep to your 90 limit.
This thread is not about what the Camino "should be." The OP asked some questions about the credencial/compostela process and policies, and we are trying to answer those questions.I do not get the point of this thread. The Camino is/should not be a race for getting rewarded various diplomas, IMHO.
I really do not get it.
Sorry for loss.Thank you for this clarification for all Caminos. My plans are to first do the CF. To include Muxia to Finisterre to SDC triangle. Next CP. And as physical ability allows, several others. No time constraints. Have been retired for over a year and lost my wife almost 2 years ago. She encouraged me to do my CF pilgrimage. But due to her medical situation I postponed it over 4 years plus 2 years for COVID. Plans are for May thru June 2022. Thanks again!
Thanks for the input. Will definitely consider.Sorry for loss.
If you had to carve a few days you could make Santiago, Finesterre, Muxia not a triangle back to Santiago …. and bus back to Santiago! You might find a trip back to Muxia at the very end a good decision.
Hi MichaelI want to thank you all for your answers, comments, suggestions. They were most informative and helpful in figuring out what I would like to do. Especially to you Tom/Tomas/t2andreo. Thank you all. -Michael
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