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My wife and I are planning on walking this rout in mid October...your comments are very helpful. I am curious as to where to start..in Cabo or Porto Covo and if Cabo what is the best way to get from Lisbon to Cabo?First impressions of Rota Vincentina way to reach Lisboa from Faro - Lagos - Sagres or Cabo de São Vicente as a pilgrim.
12 sections of about 20 km to reach Santiago do Cacem or Porto Covo. Accommodation is available at the end of each section.
So, you can combine two sections for larger legs and if two sections are too long, you can quit the Rota.
I Will take the example of my first leg:
Rota Vicentina guide propose 2 sections:
Cabo - Vila Bispo: 14km
Vila Bispo - Carrapateira: 22 km
Total: 36 km
Following the regional road 263
Cabo - Vila Bispo: 14 km
Vila Bispo - Carrapateira: 14 km
Total: 28 km
Mix of the preceeding
Cabo - Villa Bispo: 14 km
Vila Bispo - Carapateira: 17 km
Total: 31 km
You just quit the Rota at the intersection with N263 8 km before Carrapateira.
->Accommodation in Carrapateira: 32 Eur for a single room (Pensão do Dunas).
For my second step, I made 23 km from Carrapateira to Aljezur (in place of 36 km) getting out of the Rota after 12 km and following regional than national road.
->Accommodation in Aljezur: 17 Eur (Amazigh Hostel)
Please note that the map and road book of Rota Vicentina is available in Sagres Tourism Office (for free) and in Carrapateira Pensão de Dunas (for 5 Eur )
And there is also an excellent laid-back restaurant in Vila Nova de Milfontes, built up on stilts right next to the water. DELICIOUS fish -- but then how can grilled fish right out of the ocean not be delicious?!Day 4
I was in Almograve by 1.30 pm.
There is few accommodations here so I was happy to get a room (Isa, restaurant/rooms, 30 Eur with shower and wifi)
If I had to do this leg again, I would take the Fishermen Trail again but I would step out of it in Cavaleiro and take the road to Vila Nova de Milfontes. It is only about 28 km in total and you avoid to walk the part from Cavaleiro to Almograve which is less spectacular but harder because you walk through sand dunes. This village is bigger than Almograve so the risk is lower to be obliged to spend the night on the beach
My wife and I are planning on walking this rout in mid October...your comments are very helpful. I am curious as to where to start..in Cabo or Porto Covo and if Cabo what is the best way to get from Lisbon to Cabo?
Are you going to take the boat to Setubal and then walk to Lisbon? Laurie
Are you going to take the boat to Setubal Laurie
Hi, Conques, I'll bet there is no way for anyone to walk over either the April 25 bridge or the one that goes into Parque Nacoes. I think that there has been discussion about marking a route that stays on the east side of the Tejo and crossing over a bridge much further north, almost at Santarem. But that would have the tremendous disadvantage of missing Lison! So I think you should feel quite comfortable taking a boat.Yesterday I bought a 1/600000 map to have an idea of how to reach Lisboa. I also requested my phone navigator to find a way ...
It proposed me to reach Setubal, indeed and from there to walk to Barreiro and take a ferry to Lisboa, which is (dixit the phone) a 40 km walk that could be made in two days if necessary.
I told my phone that I could also take a boat from Sines to Lisboa but it didn't answered
I like the idea of a ferry, like on Camino del Norte but when there is a bridge, you are supposed to use it (aren't you?)
Conques, I just looked at a map and wondered if you have been spending your days alongside the N-261 or whether the Rota Vicentina have marked some off-road paths. My feet couldn't take 34 kms on asphalt, I learned that the hard way! Bom caminho, thanks for letting us know how it's going!Day 7
I walked from Santo André to Carvalhal through Melides.
Santo André -> Melides: about 14/15 km (from Bombeiros station)
Melides -> Carvalhas: about 20 km
So a total of 34/35 km.
I started at 7:30 and arrived in Melides by about 11:00.
I found a bed and breakfast there:
Maria Mar
www.surfincomporta.com
+351 962 475 961
+352 967 566 192
So, it is to be verified as the door was closed.
I didn't enter Melides, there is may be something else.
I had my lunch in Tia Rosa restaurant, please note that this is not a bar and they are reluctant to prepare sandwiches ...
Near the restaurant, there was a sign for an hotel, I suppose: A Serenada Enorurismo.
Now, from this restaurant (there is a milestone km 24) to Carvalhas ( milestone km 8) you will find NOTHING to drink not to mention to eat and believe me, it can be hot in the afternoon I just had a 25 cl bottle of water and it is not sufficent
The road is straight with few traffic and no shadow but easy to walk.
I arrived in Carvahal at 16:45 and directly tried to find " A Toca de Grillo" I phoned to them and there was a free room for which they requested 40 Eur ... I paid ... But it is twice the price I paid for the same room in Pensão do Dunas
Good news, it seems there is a new Alojamento Local:
Alojamento local O Avelino
Av. 18 dezembro
Carvalhal
935 740 596
Conques, I just looked at a map and wondered if you have been spending your days alongside the N-261 or whether the Rota Vicentina have marked some off-road paths. My feet couldn't take 34 kms on asphalt, I learned that the hard way! Bom caminho, thanks for letting us know how it's going!
Yes, I know this one and can read it (I'm Belgian, french speaking but can read nederlands). I found that distances are sometimes to be corrected. I follow the same shortest way, it seems but Rota Vicentina has been created in 2012 and he walked that way in 2009. So he mainly hitted roads
Oh, that's too badFrom now on, I will follow the Brierley guide so Will have nothing special to report.
Day 9
I tested for you: Setúbal -> Montijo -> Lisboa
Well, I finally made a choice!
Montijo center was only 24 km far from my location in Setubal. The Boat Terminal is 3km far from city center of Montijo. So I only had to walk 27 km to reach Lisboa after a 13 km long boat travel to cross the Rio Tejo.
Total is 40 km
There are two parts but one road: N252.
From Setubal to Pinhal Novo. It's a busy road you have to walk on for 13 km. You have to be cautious and it is noisy.
When you reach Pinhal Novo, all traffic signals are sending you to a bridge over the railway. Don't follow them, just continue straight and you will have the choice between a staircase and ... a lift (!) to get under the railway
Just after you will be on a beautiful place with shadow and everything you need for your lunch.
The second part is easier as there is a path near the road up to Montijo. You will fast enter the suburbs of Montijo. At milestone 0 km, just follow N5 to the center of the city and then the sign "Terminal fluvial do Seixalinho"
There is a speed boat every plain hour it seems. Cost: 3,25 Eur. It takes 20 minutes to reach Lisbon and you arrive about 1,3 km from cathédrale Sé.
Are you staying in Lisbon a while or forging ahead tomorrow? Bom caminho, Laurie
Hi Conques, did you have any scary encounters with dogs on the Rota Vicentina? The official info advises caution when approaching farms, because of guard dogs. This is the only reason I'm holding back on walking this route. Jill
how did it go north of Lisbon? Bom caminho, Laurie
Wow, that is awesome average!!!Well, it took me 19 days to reach Santiago from Lisboa. Up to Golegã, it was really boring walking amongst corn and tomatoes fields. After it was more pleasant but, there is a lot of asphalt and cobblestones and in September, it was hot! Up to Porto, you will see few peregrinos. Then more and more and when you arrive in Tui, it's full of people. Fortunately, it took me only 3 days from Tui to Santiago
Total km from Cabo: 882
Total days: 28
Average: 31.5 km/day
Hi
Thanks for the feedback!
I’m aiming for the following places on the Rota Vicentina.
They are the cheapest I can find online and which are open in winter.
Sagres, PuraVida Divehouse, E18
Vila do Bispo, Casa Mestre Guest House, E28
Carrapateira, Surf n Sand Hostel, E12
Arrifana, Solar dos Vales, E35
Rogil (Aljezur + 6km), Hotel Alcatruz, E36
Odeceixe, Odeceixe Hostel, E15
Sao Teotonio, Sao Teotonio Hotel, E29
Odemira, 3 x B&Bs in town [?]
Sao Luis, Casa da Tia Maria, E25
Cercal do Alentejo, Casazul M&B, E25
Vale Seco, Moinhos do Paneiro, E45
Santiago do Cacem, Guest House A Cocheira, E15
Melides, ?
Comporta, ?
Setubal (by ferry), Blue Coast Hostel, E15
Lisbon (by train)
Fatima (by bus)
Jill
HI
I think it is not necessary to sleep in Setúbal, when you cross by ferry to Sado river catch the bus (express=30 minutes to Oriente station) or train (https://www.fertagus.pt/pt/fertagus#!popup/1/) and sleep in Lisbon.
Comporta to Troia is very easy. If you have good legs, you can always follow the beach instead of you walk along the road.
AMSimoes
Hi
Thanks for the ideas. I think my progress from Santiago do Cacem to Lisbon will depend on the weather. (Rain and wind: I’m heading straight for Lisbon and the museums.) I have stayed in Lisbon several times, but have never been to Setúbal, hence the thought of an overnight there. Not sure what it’s going to be like walking from Santiago do Cacem to Troia, and whether I can find budget places to stay or not (any ideas?); maybe I’ll just want to get into Lisbon; but thanks for the thumbs up from Comporta to Troia, and I hope the sun is out so I can attempt the walk along the beach. I love Portugal, can’t wait to get back! Jill
Jill,
From Setubel walk 6k north to the castle of Palmela which is now an elegant pousada and includes a tiny, splendid Santiago chapel complete with incrusted shells. Don't miss it!
Beautiful photos, thank you for posting. And so plain on the outside! What a lovely finale this will be for me when I reach the end of the Rota Vicentina. I leave this Friday! JillSantiago Church.
Alcácer do Sal (Alentejo):
http://viajaredescobrir.blogspot.pt/2014/02/portugal-alcacer-do-sal_14.html
I walked from Arrifana beach to Santiago do Cacem last Sept/Oct. on both the Fisherman's and Historical trail. We also stayed at Casa Hospedes Celeste in Odeceixe. What a great little lady and host!I walked the Rota de Vicentina (Historical Route) last April and really enjoyed it. Here are a some other good places to stay.
Arrifana, Pousades de Juventude (youth hostel) Email arrifana@movijovem.pt... Lovely overlooking the sea. i didnt write the cost down, i dont think it was much.
Odeceixe, Casa Hospedes Celeste, 20e includes breakfast. Run by a lovely lady who walked the Camino years ago and has a book that she has been collecting the signatures of Camino walkers in for years.
Odemira, Residencial Rita, 22.50 includes breakfast.
Buen Camino, Judy.
Thanks, Aurelio. Maybe this designation will spur more action to connect the Rota Vicentina to the Caminho from Lisboa. The distance is surely not that great, from Santiago de Cacem to Lisbon (less than 150 km), and it would likely involve some ferry rides. I guess this means I'm not a purist, since the Rota Vicentina makes no claim to being part of an ancient Camino, but I do think having a route from one tip of Portugal to the other would be really attractive for many.
Caveat: I read that a few of the stages on the Fisherman's Way have loose sand making for difficult walking which means a 36 km stage might not be ideal.
Hello,
In this thread, many say that the Fisherman's Way is spectacular, etc.... but what about the Historical Way ? Is it also nice or rather boring ? What is it like ? Why is it called the Historical Way ? I would be very grateful if someone could describe it objectfully.
Thanks a lot
Hi
This route seeks to re-establish the old trail that would have been used by pilgrims, travellers and locals on their journeys throughout the region. We learn its history from the fountains, churches, old country houses, the villages, the legends and the stories heard along the way.
@Barbara06 I have done the stretch Santiago do Cacém to Cercal do Alentejo and then from Odeceixe to the Cabo. The 3 or so days in between I didn't as there are no albergue type accommodations.
What I experienced were hills, green fields, little towns and very little asphalt. On both the routes they have done an EXCELLENT job of marking the route and keeping away from roads.
This area is VERY underdeveloped. The Fisherman's Way seems to be more walked, maybe due to the amazing coastline.
Don't expect much history or culture on either routes - you go for the nature.
Hi Barbara, here are some recent photos from the Historical Trail. I hope they help to show what the countryside is like. Some days are through forests with lots of ascents and descents, and no facilities at all for 20 kms or so between towns. I loved the scenery the first week from the Cape going north. It's not so interesting the second week into Santiago do Cacem, but still a lovely walk. Very well marked the whole way. JillThanks a lot amsimoes for your answer. Also, what is the coutryside like on the historical trail ? Is it green ? urban ? hilly ?
Have you done both the trails ?
Barbara
That's true. Also Primtivo:Your welcome @KinkyOne
Where are you off to and when? Saw that you will also be in the Primitivo. Might see you there!
That could quite easily happen, Laurie. I bought my tickets two days ago and will start on May 18th from Bayonne. Plan is to be in Santiago on July 4th the earliestI am mildly optimistic that K1 and I will get a face to face this year! Even if my knee falls apart, my ticket home isn't till July 7. Buen camino, Laurie
SO EXCITED about following your travels on this route!!!!!!Hi
Thanks for the feedback!
I’m aiming for the following places on the Rota Vicentina.
They are the cheapest I can find online and which are open in winter.
Sagres, PuraVida Divehouse, E18
Vila do Bispo, Casa Mestre Guest House, E28
Carrapateira, Surf n Sand Hostel, E12
Arrifana, Solar dos Vales, E35
Rogil (Aljezur + 6km), Hotel Alcatruz, E36
Odeceixe, Odeceixe Hostel, E15
Sao Teotonio, Sao Teotonio Hotel, E29
Odemira, 3 x B&Bs in town [?]
Sao Luis, Casa da Tia Maria, E25
Cercal do Alentejo, Casazul M&B, E25
Vale Seco, Moinhos do Paneiro, E45
Santiago do Cacem, Guest House A Cocheira, E15
Melides, ?
Comporta, ?
Setubal (by ferry), Blue Coast Hostel, E15
Lisbon (by train)
Fatima (by bus)
Jill
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@petitewalker @Conques @marjude @jsalt and anyone else who has walked the Fisherman's and Historical Trails.
I am putting together potential stages and am planning on combining a few of them as they are short. Plus at times in order to save time or to avoid expensive accommodations (for me above €20-25).
What do you guys think of these?
(before everyone jumps on me and says DON'T, I often walk 35+ km stages and don't mind doing around 40).
Historical Trail
1) Santiago do Cacém - Vale Seco (cheapest acc. €45) - Cercal do Alentejo
41 km
2) Cercal do Alentejo - São Luis 21 km
3) São Luis - Odemira 25 km
4) Odemira - São Teotinio - Odeceixe
36 km
Travel bus Odeceixe to Porto Covo
Fisherman's Trail
5) Porto Covo - Vila Nova de Milfontes
20 km
6) Vila Nova de Milfontes - Almograve - Zambujeira do Mar 37 km
7) Zambujeira - Odeceixe 18 km
8) Odeceixe - Aljezur 18 km
OR
7) Zambujeira - Odeceixe - Aljezur 36 km
8) Aljezur - Carrapateira 36 km
9) Carrapateira - Vila do Bispo 22 km
(friend leaves nearby)
10) Cabo de São Vicente 12 km and visit Sagres.
So walking about 10 or 11 days.
Caveat: I read that a few of the stages on the Fisherman's Way have loose sand making for difficult walking which means a 36 km stage might not be ideal.
Thoughts/suggestions?
Cheers
LT
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I wish there was a way to make this post a new thread of its own, it seems hidden among a bunch of gems all sparkling with information.
Huge thanks to everyone for sharing your thoughts, experiences and plans!
Greetings to all who have walked this route!
My wife and I are in the planning stages to walk the Caminho Portugues in 2020, and this Rota Vicentina is tempting.
My query is: has there been any update on how to get from Santiago do Cacém to Lisbon?
Bom Caminho
Andrew
Hi, AJ,
No fair! Annother epic walk in your future!
Using my new wikiloc premium account,I was able to search for trails passing through both places. Most are for cyclists, but I did find one walking trail. This one goes up the Troia peninsula and then takes a boat over to Setubal. Looks like it avoids a lot of the built-up heavily trafficked areas, but I am not sure how you would get over the April 25 bridge! I suppose you could make your way to Cacilhas and take the ferry. In fact,I think maybe there was some forum chatter about that, I will check it out. Laurie
P.s. have you seen this thread? https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...-lagos-to-lisbon-to-santiago.9916/#post-68779
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