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I believe it will be the case, but for example Villambistia have only one albergue. In links there are several different phone numbers,
and various mail address. If I want to book accommodation I have to call all the numbers and send mails to all addresses?
I am preparing for my Camino in May and I looking albergue in the places where I plan to spend the night. For example I mention three places Azofra, Grañón and Villambistia.
Azofra
http://www.urcamino.com/camino-frances/azofra
http://www.gronze.com/rioja/azofra
http://caminodesantiago.consumer.es/etapa-de-najera-a-santo-domingo-de-la-calzada
http://caminoteca.com/attachments/article/123/Albergues_Camino_Francés_2015.pdf
http://www.elcaminoasantiago.com/albergues/frances/alberguesAzofra.htm#Albergue_Parroquial_de_Herbet_Simón
Grañón
http://www.urcamino.com/camino-frances/granon
http://www.gronze.com/rioja/granon
http://caminodesantiago.consumer.es/etapa-de-santo-domingo-de-la-calzada-a-belorado
http://caminoteca.com/attachments/article/123/Albergues_Camino_Francés_2015.pdf
http://www.elcaminoasantiago.com/albergues/frances/alberguesGranon.htm
Villambistia
http://www.urcamino.com/camino-frances/villambistia/san-roque
http://www.gronze.com/castilla-y-leon/burgos/villambistia/albergue-peregrinos-san-roque
http://caminodesantiago.consumer.es/albergue-municipal-de-san-roque-de-villambistia
http://caminoteca.com/attachments/article/123/Albergues_Camino_Francés_2015.pdf
http://www.elcaminoasantiago.com/albergues/frances/alberguesVillambistia.htm
Different and confusing data for albergue. In a one link there are, in other there are not. Open time differently. Various phone numbers, mail and addresses, particularly in Villambistia.
What choose?
Your experience please.
try to stay at the church in granon..lovely...I am preparing for my Camino in May and I looking albergue in the places where I plan to spend the night. For example I mention three places Azofra, Grañón and Villambistia.
Azofra
http://www.urcamino.com/camino-frances/azofra
http://www.gronze.com/rioja/azofra
http://caminodesantiago.consumer.es/etapa-de-najera-a-santo-domingo-de-la-calzada
http://caminoteca.com/attachments/article/123/Albergues_Camino_Francés_2015.pdf
http://www.elcaminoasantiago.com/albergues/frances/alberguesAzofra.htm#Albergue_Parroquial_de_Herbet_Simón
Grañón
http://www.urcamino.com/camino-frances/granon
http://www.gronze.com/rioja/granon
http://caminodesantiago.consumer.es/etapa-de-santo-domingo-de-la-calzada-a-belorado
http://caminoteca.com/attachments/article/123/Albergues_Camino_Francés_2015.pdf
http://www.elcaminoasantiago.com/albergues/frances/alberguesGranon.htm
Villambistia
http://www.urcamino.com/camino-frances/villambistia/san-roque
http://www.gronze.com/castilla-y-leon/burgos/villambistia/albergue-peregrinos-san-roque
http://caminodesantiago.consumer.es/albergue-municipal-de-san-roque-de-villambistia
http://caminoteca.com/attachments/article/123/Albergues_Camino_Francés_2015.pdf
http://www.elcaminoasantiago.com/albergues/frances/alberguesVillambistia.htm
Different and confusing data for albergue. In a one link there are, in other there are not. Open time differently. Various phone numbers, mail and addresses, particularly in Villambistia.
What choose?
Your experience please.
... The experience at Granon is great but Sonorista is always a back up place to sleep.
Question to all:
Apart from those of you who did pre-book all the way along the Camino, how many of you actually and entirely kept to your supposed pre- planned schedule?
I think this is the Casa de las Sonrisas (House of Smiles) in Granon. I have stayed there twice. It is a private donativo Albergue which also provides an evening meal and breakfast which are also donativo.Sonorista??? SY
I think this is the Casa de las Sonrisas (House of Smiles) in Granon. I have stayed there twice. It is a private donativo Albergue which also provides an evening meal and breakfast which are also donativo.
I had a list (after reading the opinions here) of places that people said 'not to miss'...but in the end mostly I did miss them (except Casa Abuela in Los Arcos, Granon, and El Beso near Triacastella). It was so fantastic to let go of those ideas, and simply be able to go with the reality of the day as it unfolded and to stay wherever it felt right to stop.Question to all:
Apart from those of you who did pre-book all the way along the Camino, how many of you actually and entirely kept to your supposed pre- planned schedule?
Hola Anna - after the first or second night I took it as it came. Some short days and some long. Although after Tricastela I did check that where I intended to stop did have a bed.Question to all:
Apart from those of you who did pre-book all the way along the Camino, how many of you actually and entirely kept to your supposed pre- planned schedule?
Question to all:
Apart from those of you who did pre-book all the way along the Camino, how many of you actually and entirely kept to your supposed pre- planned schedule?
Yes, a truly unique experience staying with Ernesto.Ernesto! Yes, he has build up a lovely place there. I worked with him as a hospitalero team back many years ago and stayed there again in 2014 (one night in San Juan Bautista, one night in the casa de las sonrisas) enjoyed both very much! SY
;Ernesto! Yes, he has build up a lovely place there. I worked with him as a hospitalero team back many years ago and stayed there again in 2014 (one night in San Juan Bautista, one night in the casa de las sonrisas) enjoyed both very much! SY
I didn't reserve in advance, except for Orrison, but I did carefully plan every single stop between SPdP and Santiago. Stayed on schedule until Roncesvalles! Learned that for us, anyway, planning, and certainly planning more than a day out, was pointless. The Camino did provide.how many of you actually and entirely kept to your supposed pre- planned schedule?
I found that the list given out in SJPP is a selection of Albergues but not a complete list.If you are starting in St. Jean, the Pilgrim Office has a printout of Albergues with telephone numbers. By now you have numerous thoughts from many helpful pilgrims; those who feel the need to plan and those who would rather (like me) leave it open for the unknown. I just prefer the flexibility. I wish you Buen Camino.
What does donations mean? Sorry to show my ignorance!I think this is the Casa de las Sonrisas (House of Smiles) in Granon. I have stayed there twice. It is a private donativo Albergue which also provides an evening meal and breakfast which are also donativo.
Donativo means there is no fixed price, you just make a donation of what you feel is reasonable.What does donations mean? Sorry to show my ignorance!
What does donations mean? Sorry to show my ignorance!
Sorry, spell check changed "donativo" to "donations!" I wondered what "donativo"means.What does donations mean? Sorry to show my ignorance!
Interesting. What does caritas mean?Sorry, spell check changed "donativo" to "donations!" I wondered what "donativo"means.
What does donations mean? Sorry to show my ignorance!
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Interesting. What does caritas mean?
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Interesting. What does caritas mean?
It is important to know that donation does NOT mean free. Please do give generously as the people that run donativo/donation albergues in general do NOt receive any grants but maintain the albergue only with the money pilgrims put in the box. Personally I have adopted the Fiver rule:
Five Euro for each of the following bed, shower, breakfast and dinner. PLUS any loose change I have in coins.
Please support the spirit of the Camino and give generously to keep these unique places alive.
Buen Camino, SY *Stepping off the soap box now*
Charity - in the original, Christian sense best translated to love for your neighbour/the one you meet on the road. The one that can't pay you back. The pay it forward movement is charity at its best. Buen Camino, SY
The idea of the term is to donate or give what you wish; there is no set fee. However that does not mean it is free! It is generally accepted that we all should give the same amount as is usually charged elsewhere for the same service.Sorry, spell check changed "donativo" to "donations!" I wondered what "donativo"means.
Viranani really sums up my experiences, not just on the Camino, but around the world. Unless you are planning to attend a large festival or some such just, "Go with the flow." Go with what feels right. I've spent the night in some very interesting places that way--but never a bad experience.I had a list (after reading the opinions here) of places that people said 'not to miss'...but in the end mostly I did miss them (except Casa Abuela in Los Arcos, Granon, and El Beso near Triacastella). It was so fantastic to let go of those ideas, and simply be able to go with the reality of the day as it unfolded and to stay wherever it felt right to stop.
(And of course that leaves many possibilities to explore for future journeys...)
What a beautiful story; thanks Margaret. It reminds me of a letter once received at our hotel, where I was working. Quote..Thank you for providing an oasis of service and concern, amidst a sea of indifference and mediocrity. Unquote. You are so right Margaret; people do not forget, like I have never forgotten the kindness of the gentleman who took the timr to write that letter.All of us who walk have received caritas or caring love from those we met along the way. Late November 2014 walking into Burgo Ranero was COLD, bleak and solitary. During 5 hours only a handful of pilgrims passed and all were battling the incessant wind and rain. With great relief I finally arrived at the simple adobe albergue and met the friendly hospitalera named Alicia "like Alice in Wonderland!" as she said.
Wonderland indeed! Alice who had just arrived herself would be resident hospitalera for the next two weeks but already had an open fire warming the downstairs common room (there was no other heat) and her lunch was cooking in the kitchen. One other soaked cold pilgrim, Carlos from Madrid, came in. Since it was Sunday and both bars and the village shop apparently closed Alice immediately set the table for three and graciously invited us both to share her meal. Thus the delicious HOT rice, vegs and salad was stretched with his cheese and my biscuits and bananas. In the spirit of Wonderland we all drank several steaming mugs of HOT sugared tea. Alice enjoyed recounting her many camino memories while serving as hospitalera. I sensed that wherever she might be it would quickly be her 'home'; across the years the camino had become her way of life and caring generousity defined her spirit....Such goodness is unforgetable.
MM
I'm also one who takes much joy in making a plan and then coming up with a number of other possibilities just for the fun of it! I have booked Orisson but otherwise I'll see how the feet go. Also I have a general Idea of how to make my flight back which is booked. We're all so different in our approaches and I love the way we can challenge each other to go beyond our comfort zones and grow. Buen Camino to all. EricaHi Damien,
I understand your approach. When I leave for the Camino each year in May/June, I always have my return journey booked as I have to be back for a family birthday at the beginning of July.
I make a plan of where I would like to stay each night but never book anything ahead, so I still have complete flexibility to do a bit more or less each day. I have never precisely stuck to the plan but always completed my Camino in time for my journey home.
In 2014 I met a group who had booked ahead and had their luggage forwarded, but ended up in a small village 10kms short and unable to continue walking. There were no transport options there, so they ended up stranded with no kit and had to pay for their night there.
I like to keep my Camino simple and basic. No phone, no music, no wifi, nothing booked, so simply just walk and immerse myself in the pilgrim experience.
Buen Camino,
Mike
I loved Granon and stayed at Ernesto's place in late Sept '14. Perfect host, great food, comfortable mattress (I had the bottom bunk in the private room). Oh and the music Ernesto had going all afternoon was just up my alley. He offered to do our (Jo, my upper bunkie for the night) laundry for free if we didn't mind it all being done in hot water with sheets and towels so we both took him up on it . I stayed there because it reminded me so much of my university days in the early 70's.What a lovely story SabineP. I will be in Granon again in May and look forward to meeting Ernesto again.
This is a good question. I think I quickly realized on my first Camino that the schedule that my friend and I had proposed was little more than a skeleton around which events would put the real flesh and blood of my camino. In contrast, there was little flexibility on the CI when it came to where to stay if one wanted to use albergues and walk from Ferrol to Santiago in five days. This year, the 'plan' for the CF is largely to demonstrate to my wife that it will be possible to undertake our pilgrimage under the conditions we have agreed upon. I don't expect to deviate too much from it, but neither will we feel compelled to stick to it precisely.Question to all:
Apart from those of you who did pre-book all the way along the Camino, how many of you actually and entirely kept to your supposed pre- planned schedule?
I plan a detailed camino each time I go out. I figure out the time I have, and the distance that needs to be covered to meet my goals, and the approximate distance I need to cover each day. Then I look at maps. http://www.gronze.com/ does an excellent job of laying out possible etapas, but i usually click within the cities/stops to see the available accommodation that match my prerequisites. Next, I look at the links to the available alburgues, or hotels, or whatever, and when appropriate (gasp!) I even book my trip in advance.
This activity is about half as fun as the camino itself.
I like to keep my Camino simple and basic. No phone, no music, no wifi, nothing booked, so simply just walk and immerse myself in the pilgrim experience.
If people want to pre-plan, then go for it, but I think the message is that you don't have to pre-plan your lodging.
Absolutely! This long, involved activity keeps you going until the next Camino!
Mike, was this on CF? They couldn't ring a taxi?Hi Damien,
In 2014 I met a group who had booked ahead and had their luggage forwarded, but ended up in a small village 10kms short and unable to continue walking. There were no transport options there, so they ended up stranded with no kit and had to pay for their night there.
Mike
Yes it was on the CF but a very isolated small village with no taxi service available.Mike, was this on CF? They couldn't ring a taxi?
When a friend and I were planning our first Camino in 2011 from Leon to Santiago, I actually did not believe it was possible to walk the Camino without making reservations, and that the stress and fear of not having secured a bed for the end of our day would ruin each day's walk
It is important to know that donation does NOT mean free. Please do give generously as the people that run donativo/donation albergues in general do NOT receive any grants but maintain the albergue only with the money pilgrims put in the box. Personally I have adopted the Fiver rule:
Five Euro for each of the following bed, shower, breakfast and dinner. PLUS any loose change I have in coins.
Please support the spirit of the Camino and give generously to keep these unique places alive.
Buen Camino, SY *Stepping off the soap box now*
I am preparing for my Camino in May and I looking albergue in the places where I plan to spend the night. For example I mention three places Azofra, Grañón and Villambistia.
Azofra
http://www.urcamino.com/camino-frances/azofra
http://www.gronze.com/rioja/azofra
http://caminodesantiago.consumer.es/etapa-de-najera-a-santo-domingo-de-la-calzada
http://caminoteca.com/attachments/article/123/Albergues_Camino_Francés_2015.pdf
http://www.elcaminoasantiago.com/albergues/frances/alberguesAzofra.htm#Albergue_Parroquial_de_Herbet_Simón
Grañón
http://www.urcamino.com/camino-frances/granon
http://www.gronze.com/rioja/granon
http://caminodesantiago.consumer.es/etapa-de-santo-domingo-de-la-calzada-a-belorado
http://caminoteca.com/attachments/article/123/Albergues_Camino_Francés_2015.pdf
http://www.elcaminoasantiago.com/albergues/frances/alberguesGranon.htm
Villambistia
http://www.urcamino.com/camino-frances/villambistia/san-roque
http://www.gronze.com/castilla-y-leon/burgos/villambistia/albergue-peregrinos-san-roque
http://caminodesantiago.consumer.es/albergue-municipal-de-san-roque-de-villambistia
http://caminoteca.com/attachments/article/123/Albergues_Camino_Francés_2015.pdf
http://www.elcaminoasantiago.com/albergues/frances/alberguesVillambistia.htm
Different and confusing data for albergue. In a one link there are, in other there are not. Open time differently. Various phone numbers, mail and addresses, particularly in Villambistia.
What choose?
Your experience please.
My husband and I walked the Camino Frances in September, the single busiest month in recorded Camino history. My tips may not apply during slower seasons, but this is what we experienced. We found that we had to reach the albergues by y1 pm or so, as there were so many walkers that most were completely full by 2:30 or 3. We solved the issue by reserving a day ahead, sometimes two days, depending on how popular the town. This worked well until we reach Sarria, where there was a huge increase in walkers. At that point,we booked ahead for the last five days, including Santiago, where we were lucky to get the last room in a budget hotel that had seen better days and where we paid 100 euros for a private room with shared bath. I would definitely book Orisson and/or Roncevalles before you leave if you plan to stay there. Hope this helps.I have always planned, planned, planned mostly using Planificador on Godesalco and Brierly, then as I leave, I throw everything out and just use the single sheet that you get in SJPP and the RED albergue brochure. Too hard to follow a plan with changes in the weather and ones body. But I find great joy in planning--just none in trying to rigidly follow the plan.
Hi annakappaQuestion to all:
Apart from those of you who did pre-book all the way along the Camino, how many of you actually and entirely kept to your supposed pre- planned schedule?
Hi Kurt HuffmanI am an Engineer so planning and organization are all in my training and professional experience...I spent months on the internet and wrote a 10+ page itinerary of my Camino...I purchased and read 20+ books on the the Camino Frances...I spent weeks annotating my maps with every place I wanted to see or stay overnight...I spent months writing the longest Camino packing list ever assembled...then I put everything on my mountain bike and road around the block and then dumped half of the stuff I planned to take...then I spent a week packing my mountain bike into the best of four bike boxes I purchase and because of being overweight for my airlines I dumped half of the remaining stuff I planned to take...the only problem is you can't plan the Camino...how do you plan taking off in a light rain on a seven hour journey that slowly turns into the most rainy day on the Camino...or crossing the Pyrenees Mountains in a 50 km headwind that is knocking Pilgrims down like flies...or how do you plan around arriving in Pamplona in a 100 km wind hurricane that is ripping branches off of trees and smashing them into cars...or afterwards walking for two days through ankle deep mud in the Meseta that takes you twice as long to get to your next destination...one of the lessons the Camino teaches you is that "You can only do what you can do...but never give up."...I don't think any of the Pilgrims I saw limping into Santiago in ankle or knee braces where planning that either...every time someone asked me where I was going that day I would point and say, "Up that hill." or "Over that mountain." and I made it all the way to Santiago one hill or mountain at a time. Beun Camino
Yes, that is true, and is a good reason to have several sources of information available. These are free information sources, maintained (or not) by volunteers who may not be able to provide the best quality control in the first place and also provide continuous reviews and updates. But it is the best information available in a convenient form and is, in fact, quite adequate for most purposes.In reality they have a lot of errors.
I think you have your answer, but for others the one thing it does not mean is "free"!! All accommodation locations on the camino require funds of some description - to pay for electricity; gas for hot water and cooking; even the general up keep of the place. As was posted if you are "short of funds" then by all means offer your services to the hospitaleros they will welcome the assistance - sweeping the floors, doing the washing up in the kitchens (as long as you do a good job). Buen CaminoSorry, spell check changed "donativo" to "donations!" I wondered what "donativo"means.
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