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Agree completely - he's just avoiding a refund or exchange. Send 'em back to the manufacturers!!!The sails clerk has to find a other job , he is talking....
I'm not familiar with the maker of those shoes but any good pair of shoes should last much longer. Hopefully, you've brought it to the maker's attention? I wore Salomon's for 500 miles CF last year and the tread didn't even look worn after walking on mostly hard ground.How long should a pair of walking shoes last back at home?
At the suggestion of the maker of my orthotics, I recently gave up my beloved Merrell Moabs (sob!) and switched to a pair of Keens with greater support.
Now just two months later the sole has started to separate (see pic). I assumed that for that to happen so quickly the shoe must be defective so I took it back to the store to ask for advice. To my surprise, the sales clerk said that since I do a few miles a day on city pavement I shouldn’t expect the soles to last more than 90 days. He pointed to the tread wear as a sign that the shoes are nearing their natural end of life (pic 2, although I don’t see much wear).
Was he right? Should I expect to go through a pair of shoes every two to three months?
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How long should a pair of walking shoes last back at home?
At the suggestion of the maker of my orthotics, I recently gave up my beloved Merrell Moabs (sob!) and switched to a pair of Keens with greater support.
Now just two months later the sole has started to separate (see pic). I assumed that for that to happen so quickly the shoe must be defective so I took it back to the store to ask for advice. To my surprise, the sales clerk said that since I do a few miles a day on city pavement I shouldn’t expect the soles to last more than 90 days. He pointed to the tread wear as a sign that the shoes are nearing their natural end of life (pic 2, although I don’t see much wear).
Was he right? Should I expect to go through a pair of shoes every two to three months?
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Thorough, and smart. Perfectly explained reasons why “your mileage may vary”.This is a tad long, but necessary I think. The correct answer is... "it depends..." the reasons are thus:
1. Everyone walks on this earth differently. No two feet are aligned the same, even on the same body. I have one foot (left) that points directly straight ahead and has a "normal" foot at the end of it. This left foot is relatively straight, flat, and has normal arch, instep, ball and heel.
My other leg & foot points out from the centerline of travel at a 5 degree angle, and the foot at the end of this wayward stump is canted out and up at another 3 degree angle at the heel. The result is that I get calluses on my right foot that would stump a farrier (the fellow the shoes horses hoofs). AS I get older, this odd geometry also does wonders (NOT) for my knees and hips.)
Since my first & near-last Camino in 2013, I now get regular monthly pedicures, and just had my pre-Camino pedicure 2 days ago. The young lady has to use a kitchen rasp - the device one uses to remove 'zest' from citrus fruit for baking, etc. It functions for food and feet the way a rougher rasp works in the mechanic or carpenter's shop for shaping wood or metal. THAT is why I make the farrier reference. It is true. We joke about it. The young lady usually says "good morning horsey man..."
These are the parts I was assigned at birth. I have no medical condition or prior injury causing it.
2. If you read above, you understand that no one wears any pair of footwear the same. Even one person (like me) can have a pair of shoes, each of which wears differently.
3. Even if all things are "normal and perfect," the terrain and surface you walk on causes more or less wear on your footwear. Friction = abrasion. Abrasion results in loss of sole and heel material. More abrasion means more wear and less distance.
4. Beyond #1 and #3 above, if you weigh more, or carry more, the net abrasion increases. Thus, you increase wear.
5. Every person has a different gait and step. That means the geometry with which each step hits and recovers from whatever surface you are walking on.
Some people walk from the heel to the balls of their feet in a more or less rocking motion. This is considered a normal step. Some folks walk primarily on the balls of their feet. Others "pronate" or have feet that tend to roll out or inwards as they take each step. This is among the range of "normal" feet." Then you have folks with specific geometric / architectural (non-disease) issues. Things like flat arches, high insteps, chronic corns, bunions, calluses, bone spurs, etc. The result is that one hundred people all walking the same route can have two hundred different "foot prints."
Also, some folks pick their feet up when they walk, and others literally scrape their heels along. This adds to the abrasion issue discussed above.
6. Every manufacturer uses different tread patterns, and material compounds for their heels and boots. Some are intended for smooth surfaces, and others for hard rocky surfaces. Most hiking boots have to be designed for mixed surface use. A boot designed for off-road through hiking will not stand up as well to the constant abrasion of paved surface and road walking, as is found on most the Camino routes.
So, when considering any footwear for the Camino, try to find out what the intended use of that footwear was, from the manufacturer, not the shop clerk. You need to do your research. It is no different than buying a new car. The type of tires DO make a difference in the intended use, handling and fuel mileage. The same paradigm holds in this discussion.
So, when I said "it depends" I meant it. Getting back to the original question, I too wear Keens.
My preferred "weapon" is the Keen Targhee mid-high hiking boot. I am on my second pair. The first pair did four full Caminos before I retired them...with being resoled.
The first outsole / heel only lasted about 1,000 km, 600 - 700 miles (+/-) before I sent them out for resoling. This was accomplished with training walks pre-Camino in 2013, then the full Camino Frances from SJPdP twice, Camino Portugues from Porto, and the Camino Madrid from Madrid.
Yes, these Caminos add up to more than 1,000 km, closer to 3,000 actually. The fact is that when I finished my first Camino in 2013, after maybe 1,000 km total - training (200 km) and the Camino (800 km), the mid-lining of the heels were popping through.
I wrote to Keen to complain. Also, I enclosed photos with my e-mail. Within several days of receiving my e-mail, they issued me a credit for a FREE pair of replacement boots from their website. So, I ordered the exact same boots because I really like them a lot, and still do. THEN I sent the original boots out for resoling as discussed here. IIRC the whole experience with resoliing by mail cost about USD 85. This might seem expensive, but consider that these boots were already well broken in, and ready to go...
Most folks do not know it but if you Google or Bing "hiking boot resoling" you can find someone to help you. Even if their web site does not list your specific shoe or boot, contact them and ASK. I did, and found a shop that offered mail service, both ways and resoled my Keens, TWICE, with factory supplied "findings" (parts). They used the same vulcanizing process to adhere the new bottoms to the shoe upper. The boots, when returned appeared new to me. They had new outsoles / heels, and new sock liner, and new laces (if needed).
So, my first pair of Keens had three soles (original + two resoles) and did four Caminos. After the fourth, the uppers were starting to show wear. So into the local donation box they went and out came the Keen-provided NEW preplacement.
To answer the original question: "How long should my hiking boots last?", the original answer pertains, it depends...
Hope this helps.
Kinda... I wear Keens because they fit me perfectly, don’t require “breaking in” (I don’t think a good shoe ever requires ‘breaking in’ — just means it’s too rigid or does not fit properly, etc.). I am 50, danced, wore heels every day for 25 year before I became a pedestrian commuter.... all that. I still don’t suffer foot troubles.So some of you follow the principle that a pair of shoes should last 500 miles (800 km), which is probably what I was putting on my Merrells.
At ~200 miles my Keens could be considered a 40% empty glass and the salesperson was a pessimist to already be looking ahead to their demise, but I’m being unrealistic if I think they shouldn’t be showing wear & tear at this point.
Hm. Food for thought.
I also walk in Brooks and wear them out fast but for the comfort I’ll keep spending the money. II walk in Brookes running shoes, they are super comfortable and I dont have any problems, usually no blisters, they are light and perfect for my feet.
However they are rated for 700-800kms, although they cut out faster on the harder surfaces.
Last year, 2017, I had to buy 3 pairs of shoes, which is a bit ridiculous.
I bought new shoes in December 2016 for the March NZ Oxfam trailwalk event. By the time I had done the training and the event, the tread was entirely gone (no blisters though). I bought new shoes for my Camino (May/June), that tread was gone by August, and I was skidding down hills on the wet concrete, so I had to buy another pair then. Thats 3 pairs purchased in 10 months.
The tread on that pair is getting pretty low now, and I really should get another pair before winter sets in and I slide over in them.
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I'll stick to my Brookes as they work for me, but I do think that they must have the technology to make them last longer. Walking is not cheap when you have to buy 3 pairs a year.
I complained to the guy at the sports shoe place where I get my shoes, and he told me I was an 'extreme' walker. What a cop-out. Given I know a lot of people who do the sort of km's I do or more, that's just an excuse. He obviously doesn't get anything back from the manufacturer for worn out soles, so he tells me I've walked further than what they are rated for, and gives me a % off the next pair to shut me up.
Its a trade-off I think, the heavier and sturdier boots last longer, but don't have the lightness and comfort of a shoe. Personally I think the shoe makers could do better.
I have purchased hiking boots that have lasted 8 years or so.
I walk to work on concrete surfaces at a brisk pace several times a week
I too wear Keen Targhee mid-height hiking boots. The soles shown in the photo look like my 2015 pair. They don’t look like they have a Camino left in them. I wore a one-year old pair of Targhee boots on my first Camino Frances. By Santiago they were fit to be put out of their misery, so I left them behind in a trash bin. I have begun breaking in the pair of Keen Targhee mid-heights I will wear when walking next Spring.This is a tad long, but necessary I think. The correct answer is... "it depends..." the reasons are thus:
1. Everyone walks on this earth differently. No two feet are aligned the same, even on the same body. I have one foot (left) that points directly straight ahead and has a "normal" foot at the end of it. This left foot is relatively straight, flat, and has normal arch, instep, ball and heel.
My other leg & foot points out from the centerline of travel at a 5 degree angle, and the foot at the end of this wayward stump is canted out and up at another 3 degree angle at the heel. The result is that I get calluses on my right foot that would stump a farrier (the fellow the shoes horses hoofs). AS I get older, this odd geometry also does wonders (NOT) for my knees and hips.)
Since my first & near-last Camino in 2013, I now get regular monthly pedicures, and just had my pre-Camino pedicure 2 days ago. The young lady has to use a kitchen rasp - the device one uses to remove 'zest' from citrus fruit for baking, etc. It functions for food and feet the way a rougher rasp works in the mechanic or carpenter's shop for shaping wood or metal. THAT is why I make the farrier reference. It is true. We joke about it. The young lady usually says "good morning horsey man..."
These are the parts I was assigned at birth. I have no medical condition or prior injury causing it.
2. If you read above, you understand that no one wears any pair of footwear the same. Even one person (like me) can have a pair of shoes, each of which wears differently.
3. Even if all things are "normal and perfect," the terrain and surface you walk on causes more or less wear on your footwear. Friction = abrasion. Abrasion results in loss of sole and heel material. More abrasion means more wear and less distance.
4. Beyond #1 and #3 above, if you weigh more, or carry more, the net abrasion increases. Thus, you increase wear.
5. Every person has a different gait and step. That means the geometry with which each step hits and recovers from whatever surface you are walking on.
Some people walk from the heel to the balls of their feet in a more or less rocking motion. This is considered a normal step. Some folks walk primarily on the balls of their feet. Others "pronate" or have feet that tend to roll out or inwards as they take each step. This is among the range of "normal" feet." Then you have folks with specific geometric / architectural (non-disease) issues. Things like flat arches, high insteps, chronic corns, bunions, calluses, bone spurs, etc. The result is that one hundred people all walking the same route can have two hundred different "foot prints."
Also, some folks pick their feet up when they walk, and others literally scrape their heels along. This adds to the abrasion issue discussed above.
6. Every manufacturer uses different tread patterns, and material compounds for their heels and boots. Some are intended for smooth surfaces, and others for hard rocky surfaces. Most hiking boots have to be designed for mixed surface use. A boot designed for off-road through hiking will not stand up as well to the constant abrasion of paved surface and road walking, as is found on most the Camino routes.
So, when considering any footwear for the Camino, try to find out what the intended use of that footwear was, from the manufacturer, not the shop clerk. You need to do your research. It is no different than buying a new car. The type of tires DO make a difference in the intended use, handling and fuel mileage. The same paradigm holds in this discussion.
So, when I said "it depends" I meant it. Getting back to the original question, I too wear Keens.
My preferred "weapon" is the Keen Targhee mid-high hiking boot. I am on my second pair. The first pair did four full Caminos before I retired them...with being resoled.
The first outsole / heel only lasted about 1,000 km, 600 - 700 miles (+/-) before I sent them out for resoling. This was accomplished with training walks pre-Camino in 2013, then the full Camino Frances from SJPdP twice, Camino Portugues from Porto, and the Camino Madrid from Madrid.
Yes, these Caminos add up to more than 1,000 km, closer to 3,000 actually. The fact is that when I finished my first Camino in 2013, after maybe 1,000 km total - training (200 km) and the Camino (800 km), the mid-lining of the heels were popping through.
I wrote to Keen to complain. Also, I enclosed photos with my e-mail. Within several days of receiving my e-mail, they issued me a credit for a FREE pair of replacement boots from their website. So, I ordered the exact same boots because I really like them a lot, and still do. THEN I sent the original boots out for resoling as discussed here. IIRC the whole experience with resoliing by mail cost about USD 85. This might seem expensive, but consider that these boots were already well broken in, and ready to go...
Most folks do not know it but if you Google or Bing "hiking boot resoling" you can find someone to help you. Even if their web site does not list your specific shoe or boot, contact them and ASK. I did, and found a shop that offered mail service, both ways and resoled my Keens, TWICE, with factory supplied "findings" (parts). They used the same vulcanizing process to adhere the new bottoms to the shoe upper. The boots, when returned appeared new to me. They had new outsoles / heels, and new sock liner, and new laces (if needed).
So, my first pair of Keens had three soles (original + two resoles) and did four Caminos. After the fourth, the uppers were starting to show wear. So into the local donation box they went and out came the Keen-provided NEW preplacement.
To answer the original question: "How long should my hiking boots last?", the original answer pertains, it depends...
Hope this helps.
I agree that I’m not sure the photo is showing full separation. My other Keen Targhee boots tended to develop cracks right at that point.Hi Prentiss,
Must say I was slightly disappointed with the life span of my Keen's (hiking sandals) too, maybe 1300kms. I did however find them extemely comfortable out of the box and I appreciate that given my "stature" shall we call it, I make my footwear work harder than most.
The first thing I had an issue with was their no tie laces which frayed within a month. I contacted Keen (UK) about this and they responded well sending me two pairs for free to make sure I made it through the Camino. So I'd definitely consider contacting the company directly if I were you.
Having said all that I'm not sure judging by your picture that sole is strictly speaking separating, at least not from the rest of the shoe. I'd be inclined just to glue that bit down again unless there are signs of it elsewhere.
Rob.
My Kodiaks are running on their third year, starting next Camino very soon and plenty of km left in them. That is about 4 million steps or 2,800 km. By July, adding another 1.4 million steps or 1,000 km. Only minor heel tread loss.How long should a pair of walking shoes last back at home?
At the suggestion of the maker of my orthotics, I recently gave up my beloved Merrell Moabs (sob!) and switched to a pair of Keens with greater support.
Now just two months later the sole has started to separate (see pic). I assumed that for that to happen so quickly the shoe must be defective so I took it back to the store to ask for advice. To my surprise, the sales clerk said that since I do a few miles a day on city pavement I shouldn’t expect the soles to last more than 90 days. He pointed to the tread wear as a sign that the shoes are nearing their natural end of life (pic 2, although I don’t see much wear).
Was he right? Should I expect to go through a pair of shoes every two to three months?
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Yes, these are Voyageurs. To add to the complexity of my decision, REI is dropping the Voyageur and the closest thing they still carry is the Targhee. I could still get the Voyageur at Amazon. I’m not sure what the difference is between the two models.I've been wearing Keen Voyageur shoes since 2013 - they look very much like your shoes. I wear them walking around the city, all day at work, and I have walked the camino twice. I'm not sure how often I replace them, but I walked the full 850 km in a pair in 2015 and the sole never separated. That pair I wore for 2 months before I left, then 7 weeks in Spain and I know I didn't replace them as soon as I returned home. You definitely have a defective shoe. I think you should send the pictures to Keen and see what they have to say.
My first started to slip at 200 miles. Just bring an extra pair and watch the video on how to install them. You need scissors and a lighterI have a pair of Salomon trail runners which I plan to use on the Camino. I have never had the "no--tie" laces before and wonder how long they will last, and whether I can get a spare pair in case they break en route to Santiago! Does anyone have info about this issue?
You might want to try Hoya One One’s. I am a runner so bought a pair, and then also wore them on the Camino in Sept. 2016...I still have them and run in them!I walk in Brookes running shoes, they are super comfortable and I dont have any problems, usually no blisters, they are light and perfect for my feet.
However they are rated for 700-800kms, although they cut out faster on the harder surfaces.
Last year, 2017, I had to buy 3 pairs of shoes, which is a bit ridiculous.
I bought new shoes in December 2016 for the March NZ Oxfam trailwalk event. By the time I had done the training and the event, the tread was entirely gone (no blisters though). I bought new shoes for my Camino (May/June), that tread was gone by August, and I was skidding down hills on the wet concrete, so I had to buy another pair then. Thats 3 pairs purchased in 10 months.
The tread on that pair is getting pretty low now, and I really should get another pair before winter sets in and I slide over in them.
.
I'll stick to my Brookes as they work for me, but I do think that they must have the technology to make them last longer. Walking is not cheap when you have to buy 3 pairs a year.
I complained to the guy at the sports shoe place where I get my shoes, and he told me I was an 'extreme' walker. What a cop-out. Given I know a lot of people who do the sort of km's I do or more, that's just an excuse. He obviously doesn't get anything back from the manufacturer for worn out soles, so he tells me I've walked further than what they are rated for, and gives me a % off the next pair to shut me up.
Its a trade-off I think, the heavier and sturdier boots last longer, but don't have the lightness and comfort of a shoe. Personally I think the shoe makers could do better.
I have purchased hiking boots that have lasted 8 years or so.
Love this! Lol.So to sum it up.
Boots should last longer...
Your salesman sucks.....
Contact Keen.....
Shop at REI.. ..
keep walking
Buen Camino
So to sum it up.
Boots should last longer...
Your salesman sucks.....
Contact Keen.....
Shop at REI.. ..
keep walking
Buen Camino
For those of you with a particular brand recommendation for long mileage (e.g., Hanwag), are you talking about boots or shoes? To you like a particular model?Hanwags. 2500 kms a pair....9
I have had two pairs of Salomon Ultra GTX shoes with the "no tie" laces and have not had a single problem with the shoes or the laces. In pair #1, I walked the Camino Frances, and in pair #2, I walked the Le Puy route, and both pairs had enough life left in them after those walks to serve me for an additional three years (each) on all kinds of terrain, including slushy-salty Toronto streets in winter. As you can imagine, the shoelaces have been deployed thousands of times - and without a hitch or a hesitation.I have a pair of Salomon trail runners which I plan to use on the Camino. I have never had the "no--tie" laces before and wonder how long they will last, and whether I can get a spare pair in case they break en route to Santiago! Does anyone have info about this issue?
How long should a pair of walking shoes last back at home?
At the suggestion of the maker of my orthotics, I recently gave up my beloved Merrell Moabs (sob!) and switched to a pair of Keens with greater support.
Now just two months later the sole has started to separate (see pic). I assumed that for that to happen so quickly the shoe must be defective so I took it back to the store to ask for advice. To my surprise, the sales clerk said that since I do a few miles a day on city pavement I shouldn’t expect the soles to last more than 90 days. He pointed to the tread wear as a sign that the shoes are nearing their natural end of life (pic 2, although I don’t see much wear).
Was he right? Should I expect to go through a pair of shoes every two to three months?
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I wear Brooks running shoes. Brooks says running they should last at least 200 miles. Last year I walked Camino Portugues and rewalked sections of the Frances--probably about 350 miles. I continued to wear these shoes back home. The tread is still pretty good. I'm not heavy--about 140 pounds. I'm sure it depends on the shoe and manufacturer. And what kind of surfaces. But the Camino has all kinds of surfaces.How long should a pair of walking shoes last back at home?
At the suggestion of the maker of my orthotics, I recently gave up my beloved Merrell Moabs (sob!) and switched to a pair of Keens with greater support.
Now just two months later the sole has started to separate (see pic). I assumed that for that to happen so quickly the shoe must be defective so I took it back to the store to ask for advice. To my surprise, the sales clerk said that since I do a few miles a day on city pavement I shouldn’t expect the soles to last more than 90 days. He pointed to the tread wear as a sign that the shoes are nearing their natural end of life (pic 2, although I don’t see much wear).
Was he right? Should I expect to go through a pair of shoes every two to three months?
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This is a tad long, but necessary I think. The correct answer is... "it depends..." the reasons are thus:
1. Everyone walks on this earth differently. No two feet are aligned the same, even on the same body. I have one foot (left) that points directly straight ahead and has a "normal" foot at the end of it. This left foot is relatively straight, flat, and has normal arch, instep, ball and heel.
My other leg & foot points out from the centerline of travel at a 5 degree angle, and the foot at the end of this wayward stump is canted out and up at another 3 degree angle at the heel. The result is that I get calluses on my right foot that would stump a farrier (the fellow the shoes horses hoofs). AS I get older, this odd geometry also does wonders (NOT) for my knees and hips.)
Since my first & near-last Camino in 2013, I now get regular monthly pedicures, and just had my pre-Camino pedicure 2 days ago. The young lady has to use a kitchen rasp - the device one uses to remove 'zest' from citrus fruit for baking, etc. It functions for food and feet the way a rougher rasp works in the mechanic or carpenter's shop for shaping wood or metal. THAT is why I make the farrier reference. It is true. We joke about it. The young lady usually says "good morning horsey man..."
These are the parts I was assigned at birth. I have no medical condition or prior injury causing it.
2. If you read above, you understand that no one wears any pair of footwear the same. Even one person (like me) can have a pair of shoes, each of which wears differently.
3. Even if all things are "normal and perfect," the terrain and surface you walk on causes more or less wear on your footwear. Friction = abrasion. Abrasion results in loss of sole and heel material. More abrasion means more wear and less distance.
4. Beyond #1 and #3 above, if you weigh more, or carry more, the net abrasion increases. Thus, you increase wear.
5. Every person has a different gait and step. That means the geometry with which each step hits and recovers from whatever surface you are walking on.
Some people walk from the heel to the balls of their feet in a more or less rocking motion. This is considered a normal step. Some folks walk primarily on the balls of their feet. Others "pronate" or have feet that tend to roll out or inwards as they take each step. This is among the range of "normal" feet." Then you have folks with specific geometric / architectural (non-disease) issues. Things like flat arches, high insteps, chronic corns, bunions, calluses, bone spurs, etc. The result is that one hundred people all walking the same route can have two hundred different "foot prints."
Also, some folks pick their feet up when they walk, and others literally scrape their heels along. This adds to the abrasion issue discussed above.
6. Every manufacturer uses different tread patterns, and material compounds for their heels and boots. Some are intended for smooth surfaces, and others for hard rocky surfaces. Most hiking boots have to be designed for mixed surface use. A boot designed for off-road through hiking will not stand up as well to the constant abrasion of paved surface and road walking, as is found on most the Camino routes.
So, when considering any footwear for the Camino, try to find out what the intended use of that footwear was, from the manufacturer, not the shop clerk. You need to do your research. It is no different than buying a new car. The type of tires DO make a difference in the intended use, handling and fuel mileage. The same paradigm holds in this discussion.
So, when I said "it depends" I meant it. Getting back to the original question, I too wear Keens.
My preferred "weapon" is the Keen Targhee mid-high hiking boot. I am on my second pair. The first pair did four full Caminos before I retired them...with being resoled.
The first outsole / heel only lasted about 1,000 km, 600 - 700 miles (+/-) before I sent them out for resoling. This was accomplished with training walks pre-Camino in 2013, then the full Camino Frances from SJPdP twice, Camino Portugues from Porto, and the Camino Madrid from Madrid.
Yes, these Caminos add up to more than 1,000 km, closer to 3,000 actually. The fact is that when I finished my first Camino in 2013, after maybe 1,000 km total - training (200 km) and the Camino (800 km), the mid-lining of the heels were popping through.
I wrote to Keen to complain. Also, I enclosed photos with my e-mail. Within several days of receiving my e-mail, they issued me a credit for a FREE pair of replacement boots from their website. So, I ordered the exact same boots because I really like them a lot, and still do. THEN I sent the original boots out for resoling as discussed here. IIRC the whole experience with resoliing by mail cost about USD 85. This might seem expensive, but consider that these boots were already well broken in, and ready to go...
Most folks do not know it but if you Google or Bing "hiking boot resoling" you can find someone to help you. Even if their web site does not list your specific shoe or boot, contact them and ASK. I did, and found a shop that offered mail service, both ways and resoled my Keens, TWICE, with factory supplied "findings" (parts). They used the same vulcanizing process to adhere the new bottoms to the shoe upper. The boots, when returned appeared new to me. They had new outsoles / heels, and new sock liner, and new laces (if needed).
So, my first pair of Keens had three soles (original + two resoles) and did four Caminos. After the fourth, the uppers were starting to show wear. So into the local donation box they went and out came the Keen-provided NEW preplacement.
To answer the original question: "How long should my hiking boots last?", the original answer pertains, it depends...
Hope this helps.
No you should not go through a pair of Keens every few months, I have had great luck with them lasting many months and miles, and my husband has had his last just as long. Probably a poorly made pair.How long should a pair of walking shoes last back at home?
At the suggestion of the maker of my orthotics, I recently gave up my beloved Merrell Moabs (sob!) and switched to a pair of Keens with greater support.
Now just two months later the sole has started to separate (see pic). I assumed that for that to happen so quickly the shoe must be defective so I took it back to the store to ask for advice. To my surprise, the sales clerk said that since I do a few miles a day on city pavement I shouldn’t expect the soles to last more than 90 days. He pointed to the tread wear as a sign that the shoes are nearing their natural end of life (pic 2, although I don’t see much wear).
Was he right? Should I expect to go through a pair of shoes every two to three months?
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How long should a pair of walking shoes last back at home?
At the suggestion of the maker of my orthotics, I recently gave up my beloved Merrell Moabs (sob!) and switched to a pair of Keens with greater support.
Now just two months later the sole has started to separate (see pic). I assumed that for that to happen so quickly the shoe must be defective so I took it back to the store to ask for advice. To my surprise, the sales clerk said that since I do a few miles a day on city pavement I shouldn’t expect the soles to last more than 90 days. He pointed to the tread wear as a sign that the shoes are nearing their natural end of life (pic 2, although I don’t see much wear).
Was he right? Should I expect to go through a pair of shoes every two to three months?
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For those of you with a particular brand recommendation for long mileage (e.g., Hanwag), are you talking about boots or shoes? To you like a particular model?
Hanwag has some low-rise models but mostly seems to make honking big boots...
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