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Somewhere between Carrion de los Condes and Calzadilla de la Calzadilla de la Cueza?
17 km without anything...
Buen Camino, Jacques-D.
As I remember there are just two almost equally (17km) long stretches without fuentes.I posted earlier in the year about giving a little back to the camino in the shape of some trail magic.
Well I am heading towards the Burgos area in the next couple of days and looking for a spot to park my campervan up and give out some water, tea/coffee, cookies and shade!
I don't want to tread on any toes and park near where a local is selling drinks. I seem to recall the stretch on the meseta after San bol was pretty barren. Has anyone recently done the Meseta and can confirm? I am eyeing up 42.322164, -4.006871 as a potential location.
Perhaps there is a better part of the camino to do this, preferably somewhere between Burgos and Leon?
I am going to keep note of how many pilgrims pass me too.
If I recall correctly, there is an "Oasis" with carved wooden poles about two thirds of the way through this stretch. When we walked through, there was no one there with refreshments, but I've seen photos of the place since that seem to indicate that it sometimes operates as a donativo stand. However, a ways earlier there is a civil war monument that might be a good spot. There are picnic tables there which facilitate its use for a pause for refreshment....Villafranca Montes de Oca to San Juan de Ortega on that pilgrim highway is (was) also quite deserted - 12km...
Yes, there is a SCW monument just before that steep down/uphill but no real shade as I remember. For such donativo or camper van refreshment spots I think shade is of utmost importance. Walkers are used to sit on their backpacks or whatever they can find or even on the ground. Maybe not on the first day but after a few no problemIf I recall correctly, there is an "Oasis" with carved wooden poles about two thirds of the way through this stretch. When we walked through, there was no one there with refreshments, but I've seen photos of the place since that seem to indicate that it sometimes operates as a donativo stand. However, a ways earlier there is a civil war monument that might be a good spot. There are picnic tables there which facilitate its use for a pause for refreshment.
Calzadilla de los Hermanillos: I walked this route last year in early June and didn't see any other pilgrims for that whole stretch. it is definiately the road less travelled.As I remember there are just two almost equally (17km) long stretches without fuentes.
1.) Carrion de Los Condes - Calzadilla de la Cueza, but approx. in the middle there is a barn on the left and few trees on the right. In 2011 there was a camper van with drinks and snacks. I don't know about current situation.
2.) Calzadilla de los Hermanillos - Reliegos is the right hand option soon after Sahagun and it was deserted in 2011. I haven't seen much traffic and no pilgrims also. Today it might be different. Worth to try I think but the numbers will definitely be lower than in option 1.)
Maybe a good spot would be Puente Fitero just before Itero de la Vega where you entering into Provincia de Palencia?
Or at San Anton albergue before Castrojeriz?
Villafranca Montes de Oca to San Juan de Ortega on that pilgrim highway is (was) also quite deserted - 12km.
Azofra - Ciruena? 9km.
Good luck!
As I remember there are just two almost equally (17km) long stretches without fuentes.
1.) Carrion de Los Condes - Calzadilla de la Cueza, but approx. in the middle there is a barn on the left and few trees on the right. In 2011 there was a camper van with drinks and snacks. I don't know about current situation.
2.) Calzadilla de los Hermanillos - Reliegos is the right hand option soon after Sahagun and it was deserted in 2011. I haven't seen much traffic and no pilgrims also. Today it might be different. Worth to try I think but the numbers will definitely be lower than in option 1.)
Maybe a good spot would be Puente Fitero just before Itero de la Vega where you entering into Provincia de Palencia?
Or at San Anton albergue before Castrojeriz?
Villafranca Montes de Oca to San Juan de Ortega on that pilgrim highway is (was) also quite deserted - 12km.
Azofra - Ciruena? 9km.
Good luck!
Somewhere between Carrion de los Condes and Calzadilla de la Calzadilla de la Cueza?
17 km without anything...
Buen Camino, Jacques-D.
Oh, I didn't know that about the bar. I haven't heard of that in few years here on Forum...I don't think San Anton would be a good idea. Relations with the farmer who owns the land and (sometimes depending) supplies the water isn't always good. Plus he now has the bar just through the arch on the road. Wouldn't want to strain the relationship any more than it is!
Davey
He was definitely not there last October. There were quite a few pilgrims who were expecting a stand there, and who got in serious trouble with dehydration.Nope. Not true anymore. There is a man with a truck and a plot of land. He sells fruits, juices, nescafé and barbecues up sausages with buns. He’s about half way — a few KM prior to the rest area with the sheltered benches.
He was definitely not there last October.
Yes I remember that stretch. I have a feeling there was a food truck somewhere along there. It sticks in my memory because they were selling weed as well!
Ok just looked it up on maps and there is 'Pilgrim Bar' about half way along that stretch.
The bar was not there last May but it was raining every day.Yes I remember that stretch. I have a feeling there was a food truck somewhere along there. It sticks in my memory because they were selling weed as well!
Ok just looked it up on maps and there is 'Pilgrim Bar' about half way along that stretch.
I posted earlier in the year about giving a little back to the camino in the shape of some trail magic.
Well I am heading towards the Burgos area in the next couple of days and looking for a spot to park my campervan up and give out some water, tea/coffee, cookies and shade!
I don't want to tread on any toes and park near where a local is selling drinks. I seem to recall the stretch on the meseta after San bol was pretty barren. Has anyone recently done the Meseta and can confirm? I am eyeing up 42.322164, -4.006871 as a potential location.
Perhaps there is a better part of the camino to do this, preferably somewhere between Burgos and Leon?
I am going to keep note of how many pilgrims pass me too.
The "trail magic" (aka free stuff) concept as found in America on the AT may not carry-over well to the Camino Frances. It is just not primitive, rugged or wilderness/semi-wilderness in any way. Not even a hike as most people define one.
The bar was not there last May but it was raining every day.
This was the little oasis at the midway point in 2017:As I remember there are just two almost equally (17km) long stretches without fuentes.
1.) Carrion de Los Condes - Calzadilla de la Cueza, but approx. in the middle there is a barn on the left and few trees on the right. In 2011 there was a camper van with drinks and snacks. I don't know about current situation.
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I was there June 2017, I would have loved that. We just had a long slog
I was there June 2017, I would have loved that. We just had a long slog
We were there in May, around the 22nd or 23rd. We had just finished the CP, and had a few days to spare so we took a bus from Santiago to Carrión de los Condes to walk a bit of the Meseta that we missed the first time due to scheduling problems, plus to see it in the spring (we were there in the fall before). I'm surprised that he wasn't there in June when @Anamiri passed by. Maybe when he sold out the day's goods early he shut down for the day. Anyway, it was a pleasant stop for a few moment's rest and refreshment.Yeah it seems it is a bit random when he is there, and he seems to leave early afternoon when he does turn up.
Let us know where you decide. I am going to be walking from Monday, would love to say hi!I posted earlier in the year about giving a little back to the camino in the shape of some trail magic.
Well I am heading towards the Burgos area in the next couple of days and looking for a spot to park my campervan up and give out some water, tea/coffee, cookies and shade!
I don't want to tread on any toes and park near where a local is selling drinks. I seem to recall the stretch on the meseta after San bol was pretty barren. Has anyone recently done the Meseta and can confirm? I am eyeing up 42.322164, -4.006871 as a potential location.
Perhaps there is a better part of the camino to do this, preferably somewhere between Burgos and Leon?
I am going to keep note of how many pilgrims pass me too.
I would love to do thatI posted earlier in the year about giving a little back to the camino in the shape of some trail magic.
Well I am heading towards the Burgos area in the next couple of days and looking for a spot to park my campervan up and give out some water, tea/coffee, cookies and shade!
I don't want to tread on any toes and park near where a local is selling drinks. I seem to recall the stretch on the meseta after San bol was pretty barren. Has anyone recently done the Meseta and can confirm? I am eyeing up 42.322164, -4.006871 as a potential location.
Perhaps there is a better part of the camino to do this, preferably somewhere between Burgos and Leon?
I am going to keep note of how many pilgrims pass me too.
Note ; the food and rest relief is great ; he is open from 8 am till about 1 or 2 pm . Otherwise ensure you have adequate orovisions with you !Nope. Not true anymore. There is a man with a truck and a plot of land. He sells fruits, juices, nescafé and barbecues up sausages with buns. He’s about half way — a few KM prior to the rest area with the sheltered benches.
Maybe the right person that can help you find the perfect place hasn't read this post or isn't even on the Camino Forum. If you are on Facebook you might be able to find a good place through two popular groups, "Slow Strollers on the Camino" or "American Pilgrims on the Camino."Ok I seem to be having issues with accessing these remote spots - I guess thats what makes them remote!
The area I identified on the Meseta has literally no where to park. I'd either be blocking the road, the camino or be on private land.
Other access points are on dirt road and I don't want to put my fragile old van through that.
Hmm not sure what to do now!
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