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I am convinced you will be able, amiga peregrina. Have faith. Things are moving fast now.I am chomping at the bit.
Wish I could do an Autumn walk... it may still happen.
Oh lucky you! The UK is entering its 3rd wave with new cases rising to 10,000/11,000 a day (mainly Delta variant) a rate that hasn't been seen here since February with a new "Super Spreader" event centred on . . . the G7 Conference!Many things are happening fast now: Spain will soon not demand mask wearing; so is Greece planning. I just ordered 22 days in Crete, July/Aug., and then back for 10 days home before going to Barcelona-> Pamplona, for my next CF, last half of August, and as long as it takes. I will be slow this year. I shall truly live in the now this year. No problems; Flights are waiting for passengers, and hard-hit countries are waiting for visitors.
All I need for travelling is my EU Covid green Certificate, which I have, and a formal registration for coming in to Crete and another one for returning to Norway.And one for Spain. As of now: This will also be removed, IMHO. All in place today; will be handled on my phone, and most likely without national registration by mid-July. If not, current rules apply. Fine with me, as a fully vaccinated. No problem.
Bookings have exploded in Norway this weekend, after the ease of many EU restrictions, and people are booking travels everywhere inside the EU this weekend. It is a booking frenzy here.
Reports from travellers inside the EU is that everything works smoothly. Cues may form in airports bc of people not having their certificates ready at hand, so we need to expect some more waiting and lineups. There are always some slowhands among us... Estimate longer times in airport lines.
The next 2-3 weeks will bring more news of easing-ups, is my impression based on my government's press conference last Friday (July 18th). As the world (atleast some of it) gets more and more vaccinated, more issues will ease up. It looks like being a summer/autumn very much returning to "normal".
For those non-EU pilgrims out there, it seems that the EU is working hard on implementing solutions for you too. Spain/Greece/Italy & others need you too.
Crazy. You just have to wait in line; It willl all get better. And yes; I am lucky: Seems I can go anywhere now (in the EU at least) without any problems. Life is returning.Oh lucky you! The UK is entering its 3rd wave with new cases rising to 10,000/11,000 a day (mainly Delta variant) a rate that hasn't been seen here since February with a new "Super Spreader" event centred on . . . the G7 Conference!
It's all a bit like snakes and ladders isn't it?
I used to be able to go anywhere in the EU too, <big sigh>Crazy. You just have to wait in line; It willl all get better. And yes; I am lucky: Seems I can go anywhere now (in the EU at least) without any problems. Life is returning.
I think that I will wait until after the fat lady sings.Many things are happening fast now: Spain will soon not demand mask wearing; so is Greece planning. I just ordered 22 days in Crete, July/Aug., and then back for 10 days home before going to Barcelona-> Pamplona, for my next CF, last half of August, and as long as it takes. I will be slow this year. I shall truly live in the now this year. No problems; Flights are waiting for passengers, and hard-hit countries are waiting for visitors.
All I need for travelling is my EU Covid green Certificate, which I have, and a formal registration for coming in to Crete and another one for returning to Norway.And one for Spain. As of now: This will also be removed, IMHO. All in place today; will be handled on my phone, and most likely without national registration by mid-July. If not, current rules apply. Fine with me, as a fully vaccinated. No problem.
Bookings have exploded in Norway this weekend, after the ease of many EU restrictions, and people are booking travels everywhere inside the EU this weekend. It is a booking frenzy here.
Reports from travellers inside the EU is that everything works smoothly. Cues may form in airports bc of people not having their certificates ready at hand, so we need to expect some more waiting and lineups. There are always some slowhands among us... Estimate longer times in airport lines.
The next 2-3 weeks will bring more news of easing-ups, is my impression based on my government's press conference last Friday (July 18th). As the world (atleast some of it) gets more and more vaccinated, more issues will ease up. It looks like being a summer/autumn very much returning to "normal".
For those non-EU pilgrims out there, it seems that the EU is working hard on implementing solutions for you too. Spain/Greece/Italy & others need you too.
It's interesting how we humans can be like impatient children in big bodies, unable to wait one more moment before we can do what we want.It is a booking frenzy here.
I don't understand this completely. The Delta Variant is rapidly taking hold in Britain and due to pretty much unrestricted travel from Britain to Spain, it will no doubt start to spread to Spain. It is gaining ground in Portugal, who are now taking steps to restrict travellers from Britain. Too little, too late. Why does Spain allow travellers from Britain into their country with minimal controls. It seems absurd and self defeating.Many things are happening fast now: Spain will soon not demand mask wearing; so is Greece planning. I just ordered 22 days in Crete, July/Aug., and then back for 10 days home before going to Barcelona-> Pamplona, for my next CF, last half of August, and as long as it takes. I will be slow this year. I shall truly live in the now this year. No problems; Flights are waiting for passengers, and hard-hit countries are waiting for visitors.
All I need for travelling is my EU Covid green Certificate, which I have, and a formal registration for coming in to Crete and another one for returning to Norway.And one for Spain. As of now: This will also be removed, IMHO. All in place today; will be handled on my phone, and most likely without national registration by mid-July. If not, current rules apply. Fine with me, as a fully vaccinated. No problem.
Bookings have exploded in Norway this weekend, after the ease of many EU restrictions, and people are booking travels everywhere inside the EU this weekend. It is a booking frenzy here.
Reports from travellers inside the EU is that everything works smoothly. Cues may form in airports bc of people not having their certificates ready at hand, so we need to expect some more waiting and lineups. There are always some slowhands among us... Estimate longer times in airport lines.
The next 2-3 weeks will bring more news of easing-ups, is my impression based on my government's press conference last Friday (July 18th). As the world (atleast some of it) gets more and more vaccinated, more issues will ease up. It looks like being a summer/autumn very much returning to "normal".
For those non-EU pilgrims out there, it seems that the EU is working hard on implementing solutions for you too. Spain/Greece/Italy & others need you too.
Why does Spain allow travellers from Britain into their country with minimal controls.I don't understand this completely. The Delta Variant is rapidly taking hold in Britain and due to pretty much unrestricted travel from Britain to Spain, it will no doubt start to spread to Spain. It is gaining ground in Portugal, who are now taking steps to restrict travellers from Britain. Too little, too late. Why does Spain allow travellers from Britain into their country with minimal controls. It seems absurd and self defeating.
The Netherlands do , last week travellers send back from the airport.who are now taking steps to restrict travellers from Britain.
It's all about the money, sadly enoughWhy does Spain allow travellers from Britain into their country with minimal controls.
Money.
That's what my husband said...It's all about the money, sadly enough
In EU+, where @alexwalker and I live, we are now moving towards a stage where the virus and the disease will be present but it will be no longer an overwhelming public health threat. Eradicating the virus here would have perhaps been possible in January/February 2020 - but not now.I don't understand this completely. The Delta Variant is rapidly taking hold in Britain and due to pretty much unrestricted travel from Britain to Spain, it will no doubt start to spread to Spain. It is gaining ground in Portugal, who are now taking steps to restrict travellers from Britain. Too little, too late. Why does Spain allow travellers from Britain into their country with minimal controls. It seems absurd and self defeating.
Would you please provide a reference for this statement.Today, at the time of writing, 54% of the population in EU+ have received at least one dose of Covid-19 vaccination and 30% have received the full vaccination. Numerous EU countries are already above the 60% mark for at least one dose.
ECDC website.Would you please provide a reference for this statement.
This site appears to report on vaccines for adults 18+, it doesn't seem to report on total population as your statement claims.ECDC website.
COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker | European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control
vaccinetracker.ecdc.europa.eu
Correct. I didn't specify that the percentages refer to the adult (18+) population. I corrected my earlier post.This site appears to report on vaccines for adults 18+, it doesn't seem to report on total population as your statement claims.
Thank you.Correct. I didn't specify that the percentages refer to the adult (18+) population. I corrected my earlier post.
VN,It's interesting how we humans can be like impatient children in big bodies, unable to wait one more moment before we can do what we want.
Your caution is sensible, @alexwalker ...
The Delta variant is still out there, after rampaging through India. And if there is to be another wave, this travel frenzy offers pretty good conditions for it. Hopefully vaccinations will make the difference, but personally I'm not moving until the dust has well and truly settled.
And if that means I have to totter from village to village in my dotage, or not at all, so be it.
The camino's been there for ages and it won't go anywhere, and I've had a good run...
ECDC website.
COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker | European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control
vaccinetracker.ecdc.europa.eu
Quite right too!The Netherlands do , last week travellers send back from the airport.
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I couldn’t have said it better.I don't understand this completely. The Delta Variant is rapidly taking hold in Britain and due to pretty much unrestricted travel from Britain to Spain, it will no doubt start to spread to Spain. It is gaining ground in Portugal, who are now taking steps to restrict travellers from Britain. Too little, too late. Why does Spain allow travellers from Britain into their country with minimal controls. It seems absurd and self defeating.
Interesting analysis.I find the question of who gets counted in the covid statistics quite interesting. In Canada, now, we give four numbers, each indicating percentages of a specific population 1. Who had one shot (some protection), 2. Who is fully vaccinated (gives up to 95% protection, never total). Who qualifies to be vaccinated, applied to both groups, so: 3. Who of the population of persons above 12 years of age is partially, or 4. fully vaccinated. The previous measure of adult (over 18) has not been used since research established that vaccinating younger people, 12 and up, is safe. To demonstrate, these are the latest values in Alberta, as of Friday, June 19: 1. 70.6% of all persons aged 12 and up have received at least one vaccination (60.1% of the total population, which includes children under 12) 2. 28.6% of the 12 and up population have been fully vaccinated (24.3% of the total population). We now have enough available doses, either in hand or guarnteed for delivery, to finish the job in Canada, among those who are willing to be vaccinated. This latter number may not be known for some time. I use Alberta statistics because I am an Alberta resident, and because they are revised daily (this gets a couple of days behind on weekends), whereas those for Canada are updated about every ten days. Currently, we Canadians, including myself, are chomping at the bit to travel again and to have open borders. But the delta variant has changed everything. We can only rely on the fully vaccinated statistics for protection at present, and are working very hard to get everyone done.
Many things are happening fast now: Spain will soon not demand mask wearing; so is Greece planning. I just ordered 22 days in Crete, July/Aug., and then back for 10 days home before going to Barcelona-> Pamplona, for my next CF, last half of August, and as long as it takes. I will be slow this year. I shall truly live in the now this year. No problems; Flights are waiting for passengers, and hard-hit countries are waiting for visitors.
All I need for travelling is my EU Covid green Certificate, which I have, and a formal registration for coming in to Crete and another one for returning to Norway.And one for Spain. As of now: This will also be removed, IMHO. All in place today; will be handled on my phone, and most likely without national registration by mid-July. If not, current rules apply. Fine with me, as a fully vaccinated. No problem.
Bookings have exploded in Norway this weekend, after the ease of many EU restrictions, and people are booking travels everywhere inside the EU this weekend. It is a booking frenzy here.
Reports from travellers inside the EU is that everything works smoothly. Cues may form in airports bc of people not having their certificates ready at hand, so we need to expect some more waiting and lineups. There are always some slowhands among us... Estimate longer times in airport lines.
The next 2-3 weeks will bring more news of easing-ups, is my impression based on my government's press conference last Friday (July 18th). As the world (atleast some of it) gets more and more vaccinated, more issues will ease up. It looks like being a summer/autumn very much returning to "normal".
For those non-EU pilgrims out there, it seems that the EU is working hard on implementing solutions for you too. Spain/Greece/Italy & others need you too.
We’re coming…..some of us a bit later than others. Buen Camino!Many things are happening fast now: Spain will soon not demand mask wearing; so is Greece planning. I just ordered 22 days in Crete, July/Aug., and then back for 10 days home before going to Barcelona-> Pamplona, for my next CF, last half of August, and as long as it takes. I will be slow this year. I shall truly live in the now this year. No problems; Flights are waiting for passengers, and hard-hit countries are waiting for visitors.
All I need for travelling is my EU Covid green Certificate, which I have, and a formal registration for coming in to Crete and another one for returning to Norway.And one for Spain. As of now: This will also be removed, IMHO. All in place today; will be handled on my phone, and most likely without national registration by mid-July. If not, current rules apply. Fine with me, as a fully vaccinated. No problem.
Bookings have exploded in Norway this weekend, after the ease of many EU restrictions, and people are booking travels everywhere inside the EU this weekend. It is a booking frenzy here.
Reports from travellers inside the EU is that everything works smoothly. Cues may form in airports bc of people not having their certificates ready at hand, so we need to expect some more waiting and lineups. There are always some slowhands among us... Estimate longer times in airport lines.
The next 2-3 weeks will bring more news of easing-ups, is my impression based on my government's press conference last Friday (July 18th). As the world (atleast some of it) gets more and more vaccinated, more issues will ease up. It looks like being a summer/autumn very much returning to "normal".
For those non-EU pilgrims out there, it seems that the EU is working hard on implementing solutions for you too. Spain/Greece/Italy & others need you too.
Think things are moving to quickly. The spread of the Delta variant is worrying. Think we are in danger of more restrictions later in the year.Many things are happening fast now: Spain will soon not demand mask wearing; so is Greece planning. I just ordered 22 days in Crete, July/Aug., and then back for 10 days home before going to Barcelona-> Pamplona, for my next CF, last half of August, and as long as it takes. I will be slow this year. I shall truly live in the now this year. No problems; Flights are waiting for passengers, and hard-hit countries are waiting for visitors.
All I need for travelling is my EU Covid green Certificate, which I have, and a formal registration for coming in to Crete and another one for returning to Norway.And one for Spain. As of now: This will also be removed, IMHO. All in place today; will be handled on my phone, and most likely without national registration by mid-July. If not, current rules apply. Fine with me, as a fully vaccinated. No problem.
Bookings have exploded in Norway this weekend, after the ease of many EU restrictions, and people are booking travels everywhere inside the EU this weekend. It is a booking frenzy here.
Reports from travellers inside the EU is that everything works smoothly. Cues may form in airports bc of people not having their certificates ready at hand, so we need to expect some more waiting and lineups. There are always some slowhands among us... Estimate longer times in airport lines.
The next 2-3 weeks will bring more news of easing-ups, is my impression based on my government's press conference last Friday (July 18th). As the world (atleast some of it) gets more and more vaccinated, more issues will ease up. It looks like being a summer/autumn very much returning to "normal".
For those non-EU pilgrims out there, it seems that the EU is working hard on implementing solutions for you too. Spain/Greece/Italy & others need you too.
For those fully vaccinated, Delta should be no problem, according to the experts (among them, The Norwegian Health Institute). And vaccination is going fast in the EU. We are closing in on herd immunity.Thi
Think things are moving to quickly. The spread of the Delta variant is worrying. Think we are in danger of more restrictions later in the year.
Ditto from AustraliaI think that I will wait until after the fat lady sings.
I would love to be able to sing and I am in awe of those who can. My maternal grandmother was an opera singer and I see her influence on others in our wider family, including my son but, unfortunately, this talent seems to have skipped me.I think that the NZ singing fat lady concept is interesting and base on the NZ doughnut I will wait till the NZ doughnut sing with the fat lady to do some caminoing! Hope it is clear!
Yes, you are right. Sadly it's an argument I see marshalled in reference to any tourist area: they need my dollars and so I'm going.It's all about the money, sadly enough
I am so happy to hear your enthusiasm and the news re " getting back to normal" in the EU countries. If only that were the case here in Australia!Many things are happening fast now: Spain will soon not demand mask wearing; so is Greece planning. I just ordered 22 days in Crete, July/Aug., and then back for 10 days home before going to Barcelona-> Pamplona, for my next CF, last half of August, and as long as it takes. I will be slow this year. I shall truly live in the now this year. No problems; Flights are waiting for passengers, and hard-hit countries are waiting for visitors.
All I need for travelling is my EU Covid green Certificate, which I have, and a formal registration for coming in to Crete and another one for returning to Norway.And one for Spain. As of now: This will also be removed, IMHO. All in place today; will be handled on my phone, and most likely without national registration by mid-July. If not, current rules apply. Fine with me, as a fully vaccinated. No problem.
Bookings have exploded in Norway this weekend, after the ease of many EU restrictions, and people are booking travels everywhere inside the EU this weekend. It is a booking frenzy here.
Reports from travellers inside the EU is that everything works smoothly. Cues may form in airports bc of people not having their certificates ready at hand, so we need to expect some more waiting and lineups. There are always some slowhands among us... Estimate longer times in airport lines.
The next 2-3 weeks will bring more news of easing-ups, is my impression based on my government's press conference last Friday (July 18th). As the world (atleast some of it) gets more and more vaccinated, more issues will ease up. It looks like being a summer/autumn very much returning to "normal".
For those non-EU pilgrims out there, it seems that the EU is working hard on implementing solutions for you too. Spain/Greece/Italy & others need you too.
I think this one from the New York Times is by country but there is a wealth of information here also.Would you please provide a reference for this statement.
Spain, Portugal, Greece, and some of the smaller southern European countries are SO dependent on tourism as a big part of their national revenue--not that much manufacturing, resource extraction, farming, or other revenue sources. "Open" vs. "shut."It's all about the money, sadly enough
Beware the fat lady! It is me haha!I think that the NZ singing fat lady concept is interesting and base on the NZ doughnut I will wait till the NZ doughnut sing with the fat lady to do some caminoing! Hope it is clear!
Your post title sounds nice. You are fortunate indeed. You are not to be envied, although some members might in fact envy you. I am going to focus on two points. Money, and normal. I have a certain amount of intelligence for some things, but for clear expounding on facts and trends and analyses, look elsewhere. The love of money is an old trait and is indeed a strong driver in the process to try to return to normal. Normal is so relative! I would be foolish to exhort anyone to be patient, to make do and mend. However, it is what I will do, hoping that a degree of normality will allow me to use the money Iberia insisted on converting to a voucher last year, and is due to expire on 31/12/2021!Many things are happening fast now: Spain will soon not demand mask wearing; so is Greece planning. I just ordered 22 days in Crete, July/Aug., and then back for 10 days home before going to Barcelona-> Pamplona, for my next CF, last half of August, and as long as it takes. I will be slow this year. I shall truly live in the now this year. No problems; Flights are waiting for passengers, and hard-hit countries are waiting for visitors.
All I need for travelling is my EU Covid green Certificate, which I have, and a formal registration for coming in to Crete and another one for returning to Norway.And one for Spain. As of now: This will also be removed, IMHO. All in place today; will be handled on my phone, and most likely without national registration by mid-July. If not, current rules apply. Fine with me, as a fully vaccinated. No problem.
Bookings have exploded in Norway this weekend, after the ease of many EU restrictions, and people are booking travels everywhere inside the EU this weekend. It is a booking frenzy here.
Reports from travellers inside the EU is that everything works smoothly. Cues may form in airports bc of people not having their certificates ready at hand, so we need to expect some more waiting and lineups. There are always some slowhands among us... Estimate longer times in airport lines.
The next 2-3 weeks will bring more news of easing-ups, is my impression based on my government's press conference last Friday (July 18th). As the world (atleast some of it) gets more and more vaccinated, more issues will ease up. It looks like being a summer/autumn very much returning to "normal".
For those non-EU pilgrims out there, it seems that the EU is working hard on implementing solutions for you too. Spain/Greece/Italy & others need you too.
Ditto here in South Australia - I am a health worker based in regional health sites including co-located aged care facilities, yet staff vaccinations only rolled out from 21 March (solely AZ available), followed by the confusion and debacle around the potential risks to people under 50 years and AZ. I've patiently waited the 12 weeks for my 2nd jab and full vaccination status, but I despair for my adult children and the general population as this process has been so slow and inefficient. I am still hoping to be allowed to travel outside Australia next year, but for now, it is still uncertain. Be careful all those who ARE traveling againI am so happy to hear your enthusiasm and the news re " getting back to normal" in the EU countries. If only that were the case here in Australia!
We are only at 3% of our population immunised and our immunisation program in dissaray.
Continual severe lockdowns here in Victoria for cases less than double digits. Internal borders closed, international travel banned, businesses and individuals
struggling and no end in sight.
My dreams of a retirement happily walking Camino's is fast disappearing. Thank God, for this forum and Facebook groups where I can walk vicariously through others. Meanwhile, I try to keep fit so I can walk when (????) I can. Buen Camino and enjoy your walking.
My concern too.In recent days, I've become more wary of travelling within Europe again and of mixing with international crowds. There is too much discrepancy between EU countries for my taste: Some EU countries have now started to allow travellers to enter on non-essential trips, unvaccinated and even without the requirement of a PCR or antigen test and coming from non-EU+ countries that until very recently had not been regarded as "safe" countries and where the virus is clearly still circulating, including the Delta variant.
I feel for you guys. You are not even safe in spite of the restrictions. Delta is amongst you and as a result of careless bubble opening, it has crept into NZ.I'm in fortress Australia and the title of this post made me feel like crying. We are likely to complete full 2 years without being able to leave the country, even if we have family overseas.
I'm glad to be safe and healthy, though. Strange and long Camino this one we are walking now...
Excuse me, there are no confirmed community cases in Aotearoa New ZealandI feel for you guys. You are not even safe in spite of the restrictions. Delta is amongst you and as a result of careless bubble opening, it has crept into NZ.
Someone who visited here from Australia and tested positive to Delta variant on return had potentially 2500 contacts. Wellington in level 2 restrictions. It will be a miracle, if we do not have positive cases as a result. Wait and see.Excuse me, there are no confirmed community cases in Aotearoa New Zealand
Here are that persons movements https://i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...w-a-sydney-tourists-capital-weekend-went-awrySomeone who visited here from Australia and tested positive to Delta variant on return had potentially 2500 contacts. Wellington in level 2 restrictions. It will be a miracle, if we do not have positive cases as a result. Wait and see.
Yes, but there is still some risk. I feel for you down under.Here are that persons movements https://i.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...w-a-sydney-tourists-capital-weekend-went-awry
Lets not count our chickens before they come home to roost. After all, none of his closest contacts have come up positive.
He was partially vaccinated (first dose) and that reduces the likelihood of shedding viable viri.
I'm with you VN well said!It's interesting how we humans can be like impatient children in big bodies, unable to wait one more moment before we can do what we want.
Your caution is sensible, @alexwalker ...
The Delta variant is still out there, after rampaging through India. And if there is to be another wave, this travel frenzy offers pretty good conditions for it. Hopefully vaccinations will make the difference, but personally I'm not moving until the dust has well and truly settled.
And if that means I have to totter from village to villagwalkinge in my dotage, or not at all, so be it.
The camino's been there for ages and it won't go anywhere, and I've had a good run...
Things seem to be coming together--but I shy away from saying 'back to normal' since nothing will be like it was pre-COVID.Many things are happening fast now: Spain will soon not demand mask wearing; so is Greece planning. I just ordered 22 days in Crete, July/Aug., and then back for 10 days home before going to Barcelona-> Pamplona, for my next CF, last half of August, and as long as it takes. I will be slow this year. I shall truly live in the now this year. No problems; Flights are waiting for passengers, and hard-hit countries are waiting for visitors.
All I need for travelling is my EU Covid green Certificate, which I have, and a formal registration for coming in to Crete and another one for returning to Norway.And one for Spain. As of now: This will also be removed, IMHO. All in place today; will be handled on my phone, and most likely without national registration by mid-July. If not, current rules apply. Fine with me, as a fully vaccinated. No problem.
Bookings have exploded in Norway this weekend, after the ease of many EU restrictions, and people are booking travels everywhere inside the EU this weekend. It is a booking frenzy here.
Reports from travellers inside the EU is that everything works smoothly. Cues may form in airports bc of people not having their certificates ready at hand, so we need to expect some more waiting and lineups. There are always some slowhands among us... Estimate longer times in airport lines.
The next 2-3 weeks will bring more news of easing-ups, is my impression based on my government's press conference last Friday (July 18th). As the world (atleast some of it) gets more and more vaccinated, more issues will ease up. It looks like being a summer/autumn very much returning to "normal".
For those non-EU pilgrims out there, it seems that the EU is working hard on implementing solutions for you too. Spain/Greece/Italy & others need you too.
Agreed. Nothing will ever be the same, including walking pilgrimages.Things seem to be coming together--but I shy away from saying 'back to normal' since nothing will be like it was pre-COVID.
Agreed. Nothing will ever be the same, including walking pilgrimages.
Currently in Seville for Euro 2020 after a few days in Lisbon and things are starting to feel a whole lot more postitive. Bars open till midnight here last night and packed and apart from the masks it felt like the real world again! Never knew normality could feel so good!In this may we all be thankful for the opportunity to dump what of “normal” was not working so well. At least this is part of my hope For the future…. That it will not return to the status quo…. That “playing it as it lies” instead of trying to micromanage the camino experience will be renewed as the ethos…
I am a bit of a control freak, and on each of my caminos I have aimed to go day-by-day with what came… to handle the weather without complaint, the sometimes very colourful characters in the albergues (people who might not be very welcome anywhere else)…. And I have had to resist the usual urge to know all in advance…
With fewer people out there, maybe costs will go up… maybe I won’t be able to afford 3-6 weeks on the road every 3 years…. But maybe the “bed race” will drop, maybe people will slow down and savour more what they are spending the money on… maybe when we can take our collective breaths of relief we will look around more frequently to make sure that others around us also have enough air…
I hope…
I do not know about all that. Who am I to throw stones and say who should be walking the Camino and who should not. I suppose at times even I have fallen into the category of "bad pilgrim" from time to time (damn whiskey in Pamplona lol). Also I suppose there has always been a cast of misfits walking religious pilgrimages since they started. Drunks, vagabonds, whores, thieves, hypocrites and scalawags.In this may we all be thankful for the opportunity to dump what of “normal” was not working so well. At least this is part of my hope For the future…. That it will not return to the status quo…. That “playing it as it lies” instead of trying to micromanage the camino experience will be renewed as the ethos…
I am a bit of a control freak, and on each of my caminos I have aimed to go day-by-day with what came… to handle the weather without complaint, the sometimes very colourful characters in the albergues (people who might not be very welcome anywhere else)…. And I have had to resist the usual urge to know all in advance…
With fewer people out there, maybe costs will go up… maybe I won’t be able to afford 3-6 weeks on the road every 3 years…. But maybe the “bed race” will drop, maybe people will slow down and savour more what they are spending the money on… maybe when we can take our collective breaths of relief we will look around more frequently to make sure that others around us also have enough air…
I hope…
Mmmmm…. I really wasn’t talking about should/shouldn’t or good/bad…. More about not having an “I bought it and I demand experience ‘x’…” interpretation of what “It’s my camino” means.I do not know about all that. Who am I to throw stones and say who should be walking the Camino and who should not. I suppose at times even I have fallen into the category of "bad pilgrim" from time to time (damn whiskey in Pamplona lol). Also I suppose there has always been a cast of misfits walking religious pilgrimages since they started. Drunks, vagabonds, whores, thieves, hypocrites and scalawags.
No, I just want everyone who wants to walk the Camino to be able to walk it again. Everyone, me included. I look forward to the day (if it ever happens) when there is crowded albergues and cafes again. Races for beds and lines for a compostela in Santiago.
I hope.....
I do not think the pandemic has thinned out the human herd to the extent of bringing about the new world order it sounds like you hope for, lol.Mmmmm…. I really wasn’t talking about should/shouldn’t or good/bad…. More about not having an “I bought it and I demand experience ‘x’…” interpretation of what “It’s my camino” means.
Put another way, and part of what inspired my post: the great plague of medieval Europe wiped out feudalism, gave rise to living wages and the eventual possibility for common people to own land, to have autonomy… the economic and political systems were totally revised.
I think from here, in my mid-50’s when it’s really too late to start all over, that the ways I have learned to navigate life may fade out — like avocado and mustard appliances of the 1970s. I do not know what those with the energy for change will do as they clear away the mess of Covid…. But I do hope it might be toward more communalism and less radical individualism. Less “normal”, more eclectic… I am leaning more and more toward those who see the pandemic as an opportunity not to return to normal (because normal was so fragile and dysfunctional that one virus could topple life as we knew it).
I do not think the pandemic has thinned out the human herd to the extent of bringing about the new world order it sounds like you hope for, lol.
May it be so!we can take time reevaluate the ways we organize our days, and the things we value without killing off 90% of the working class, and that our contemplations might result in something greater than the contortions required to call "getting what I want regardless" into a putative state of magnanimity.
"imagine there's no"......Actually, myI hope is that we can take time reevaluate the ways we organize our days, and the things we value without killing off 90% of the working class, and that our contemplations might result in something greater than the contortions required to call "getting what I want regardless" into a putative state of magnanimity.
Which has what to do with anything I've ever said?"imagine there's no"......
(actually adjusted to today's economy he had a net worth of hundreds of millions of dollars at the time of his death and lived in a five million dollar penthouse apartment...so much for imagine no possessions shtick lol)
The EU Corona Certificate is now active, as promised, on June 24. Here is what it looks like (Demo pictures):
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The green version is for domestic (Norway) use, and the blue for EU/Schengen.
I agree the EU is on the way to herd immunity. But the % of those vaccinated in the USA is truly troubling. They won’t get to herd immunity with those number and the increíble amount of non-vaxxers.For those fully vaccinated, Delta should be no problem, according to the experts (among them, The Norwegian Health Institute). And vaccination is going fast in the EU. We are closing in on herd immunity.
But by all means, we don't know what may be coming. But, it is also time to start taking back our normal lives, or as normal as can be.
Many things are happening fast now: Spain will soon not demand mask wearing; so is Greece planning. I just ordered 22 days in Crete, July/Aug., and then back for 10 days home before going to Barcelona-> Pamplona, for my next CF, last half of August, and as long as it takes. I will be slow this year. I shall truly live in the now this year. No problems; Flights are waiting for passengers, and hard-hit countries are waiting for visitors.
All I need for travelling is my EU Covid green Certificate, which I have, and a formal registration for coming in to Crete and another one for returning to Norway.And one for Spain. As of now: This will also be removed, IMHO. All in place today; will be handled on my phone, and most likely without national registration by mid-July. If not, current rules apply. Fine with me, as a fully vaccinated. No problem.
Bookings have exploded in Norway this weekend, after the ease of many EU restrictions, and people are booking travels everywhere inside the EU this weekend. It is a booking frenzy here.
Reports from travellers inside the EU is that everything works smoothly. Cues may form in airports bc of people not having their certificates ready at hand, so we need to expect some more waiting and lineups. There are always some slowhands among us... Estimate longer times in airport lines.
The next 2-3 weeks will bring more news of easing-ups, is my impression based on my government's press conference last Friday (July 18th). As the world (atleast some of it) gets more and more vaccinated, more issues will ease up. It looks like being a summer/autumn very much returning to "normal".
For those non-EU pilgrims out there, it seems that the EU is working hard on implementing solutions for you too. Spain/Greece/Italy & others need you too.
Sorry. It is sad many of these situations.I'm in fortress Australia and the title of this post made me feel like crying. We are likely to complete full 2 years without being able to leave the country, even if we have family overseas.
I'm glad to be safe and healthy, though. Strange and long Camino this one we are walking now...
I have to admit that you made my jaw drop. Only 3%???????? With so many workable examples from countries around the world, what are they thinking?I am so happy to hear your enthusiasm and the news re " getting back to normal" in the EU countries. If only that were the case here in Australia!
We are only at 3% of our population immunised and our immunisation program in dissaray.
Continual severe lockdowns here in Victoria for cases less than double digits. Internal borders closed, international travel banned, businesses and individuals
struggling and no end in sight.
My dreams of a retirement happily walking Camino's is fast disappearing. Thank God, for this forum and Facebook groups where I can walk vicariously through others. Meanwhile, I try to keep fit so I can walk when (????) I can. Buen Camino and enjoy your walking.
Covid is surging in South Africa. The president will address the nation tonight and we are expecting he will impose another harsh lockdown. Wait and see. I have had half a vaccine. Vaccines are scarce as is the case in most African countries.Oh lucky you! The UK is entering its 3rd wave with new cases rising to 10,000/11,000 a day (mainly Delta variant) a rate that hasn't been seen here since February with a new "Super Spreader" event centred on . . . the G7 Conference!
It's all a bit like snakes and ladders isn't it?
Not what I expected to be "normal" this summer. I expected that every traveller who enters an EU country, whether from inside the EU or from outside, has to have proof of either vaccination, recent test or recent recovery.Therefore, vaccination cards, PCR tests, and recovery certificates shall no longer be required [for USA, UK -> Spain]
QR Data:The EU Corona Certificate is now active, as promised, on June 24. Here is what it looks like (Demo pictures):
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The green version is for domestic (Norway) use, and the blue for EU/Schengen.
Because they have a desperate, desperate calling to do the Camino right now and can't wait a moment longer even at the risk to their health and that of others?Germany has indicated Portugal as Virusvariantengebiet from Tuesday June 29, 00.00 hrs on for two weeks. with the possibility of an extension.
https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ...gebiete_aktuell_en.pdf?__blob=publicationFile
Read carefully, the devil is in the details:
Persons who have spent time in an area of variants of concern prior to entry, must quarantine for14 days.
Following a stay in an area of variants of concern, the duration of quarantine may not be shortened
While many are so eager to travel to Spain or Portugal, the next question arises: what will my options be for the return journey? There may be huge problems ahead.
Maybe nothing, because it is a demo (if you tried the QR that I posted).I wonder what it all means?
But it must mean something - the QR has to be populated with data for it to work. For instance the QR from my last lateral flow test was LRF89203109 (the number of the test kit) I was just interested in what kind of data was being shared.Maybe nothing, because it is a demo (if you tried the QR that I posted).
I wonder what it all means?
Ooh you Europeans! So advanced. I'd imagine a two hour wait at Gatwick while immigration sharpen their quill pens. That was the first thing I did with my certificate, too: Scanning the QR code with a QR reader and seeing only gibberish.
You can scan the QR code with an EU DCC verifier app. I tried the German CovPassCheck app first. It shows my name, date of birth and says "Zertifikat gültig", followed by the request to check my name and date of birth with the data on my ID.
I've also tried the French TousAntiCovid Verif app. It did not work a few days ago but now it works, too! Same result: After scanning the EU DCC code, it displays my first name, my family name, my date of birth. And a green checkmark with the word "Valide" next to it.
There is also a digital signature in the QR code to make sure the certificate is authentic.
Very little data is shared through the EU gateway platform. I don't know many technical details but I know that private data protection, not sharing of more than the most essential information and no traceability were a top priority when this project was developed.
Ooh you Europeans! So advanced. I'd imagine a two hour wait at Gatwick while immigration sharpen their quill pensmight be the order of the day coming into the UK
An article in The Guardian yesterday suggested that the EU may be looking at restricting UK television content as a result of Brexit. Mentioned that there was lots of opposition to the idea.Like a Blackadder scene...( reference to quill pen ).
An article in The Guardian yesterday suggested that the EU may be looking at restricting UK television content as a result of Brexit. Mentioned that there was lots of opposition to the idea.
I didn't realise that UK TV was so popular in the rest of Europe. Shows like Blackadder I thought might not be so well appreciated but clearly that is incorrect
At one time (can't check since I had my satellite dish realigned) RAI had a drama channel which showed British programmes undubbed and with English subtitles (think of the BBC Miss Marple series). An Italian colleague told me this meant you could follow the dialogue even if missed what was being said.An article in The Guardian yesterday suggested that the EU may be looking at restricting UK television content as a result of Brexit. Mentioned that there was lots of opposition to the idea.
I didn't realise that UK TV was so popular in the rest of Europe. Shows like Blackadder I thought might not be so well appreciated but clearly that is incorrect
I didn't realise this at first: I downloaded my vaccination certificate in EU DCC format through my health care agency and printed it out, in addition to storing the QR code on my iPhone. The printout contains details about the type of vaccine and when I got the last jab. It is printed on a A4 sheet in such a way that it can be folded twice down to A6 format. In A6 format, the data about the vaccine are hidden inside the "booklet" and the front page shows only the information that is also in the QR code: Surname(s) and forename(s), date of birth, and a Unique Certificate Identifier. Neat.Very little data is shared through the EU gateway platform. I don't know many technical details but I know that private data protection, not sharing of more than the most essential information and no traceability were a top priority when this project was developed.
And in Canada too. I love British TV, movies, serials etc. etc. I never watch American TV ever.An article in The Guardian yesterday suggested that the EU may be looking at restricting UK television content as a result of Brexit. Mentioned that there was lots of opposition to the idea.
I didn't realise that UK TV was so popular in the rest of Europe. Shows like Blackadder I thought might not be so well appreciated but clearly that is incorrect
I was once in Bermuda and got the worst food poisoning the doctor had seen in +20 years practice. For 5 days I had to stay in bed or the bathroom, or running between the two, watching only US TV. Never again. BBC &Norw. TV are my favorites. But we are far off topic now...And in Canada too. I love British TV, movies, serials etc. etc. I never watch American TV ever.
I just noticed that they made a legal text public for laying down technical specifications and rules for the implementation of the trust framework for the EU Digital COVID Certificate. See Annex I-IV of Commission Implementing Decision (EU) 2021/1073. That's twenty pages full of technical specifications ...5SOGFJS0/MP4P+3N-/P.SGH3KZ2P2Z00V6UBAMNO9C7L$G6HVOXSI+SA6KOWFSPF*56 4KIYS$2OPCFV89RKT
I wonder what it all means?
I was thinking today ... now that we all have our EU Digital Covid certificates or know how and where to get them ... did anyone have their EU DCC checked yet?The problem is not going... but coming back home.
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