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I've been wearing the Lone Peak 5 regular width, low-cut since May. They are great shoes for everyday use and light to moderate length hikes (for me)... if only they had just a little more cushioning (perhaps 4-5mm more stack height to get close to 30mm), they would be perfect.Altra Lone Pak 5 Wides don’t seem to be available in the UK, nor the Altra Olympus
I have just tried the 5s against the 5 Wides and there is a significant difference. The Wides, which I had sent from the US are, unsurprisingly wider! They are similar to the 4s I walked the Frances in 2 years ago, which were brilliant.
Both pairs fit well but I am 100% confident that if my feet swell, as I expect them to, the Wides will be a better bet.
I hope this is useful info to someone.
Anyone have anything to say about the cushioning of the Altra Olympus and any downsides?
Many thanks, Chris
Thank you. That is exceptionally helpful. I have also tried to get replacement insoles over here but the sale volumes of Altra are so low that its impossible to get any one to helpI've been wearing the Lone Peak 5 regular width, low-cut since May. They are great shoes for everyday use and light to moderate length hikes (for me)... if only they had just a little more cushioning (perhaps 4-5mm more stack height to get close to 30mm), they would be perfect.
So, earlier this month I bought the Olympus with high hopes they would be better (same performance as LP5 but with the additional cushioning). The cushioning was outstanding. However, after 25+ miles over the course of a week, I realized they weren't going to work. The heel area is much bigger than the LP5 and the regular width felt like a wide. I am certain I had the right size length. No matter how I cinched or tied them, the shoe was sloppy, so I returned them to REI.
Based on my experience with the Olympus and your desire to have a wider shoe, it might be exactly what you're looking for.
Next up for me in the hunt for the best shoe: The Hoka Stinson ATR 6.
I think the 5 is the first to come with a Wide option. My 4’s are significantly wider than the 5 regular size. Very noticeable.Question for the Altra Lone Peak fans — Is the 5 the first version to come in widths? I have walked in both the 4 and 4.5 and don’t remember having to choose a width.
Thanks so much for that info. Where do you notice the difference, in the toe box, in the instep, the heel or somewhere else? The only part of my foot that’s wide is the toe box, and the Lone Peaks were the first shoe that were comfortable at the toe box without my feet feeling like they were swimming around in the rest of the shoe. Sounds like I need to try them both and compare.My 4’s are significantly wider than the 5 regular
The toe box in both the standard and wide is very generous and the main reason I selected Lone Peaks in the first placeThanks so much for that info. Where do you notice the difference, in the toe box, in the instep, the heel or somewhere else? The only part of my foot that’s wide is the toe box, and the Lone Peaks were the first shoe that were comfortable at the toe box without my feet feeling like they were swimming around in the rest of the shoe. Sounds like I need to try them both and compare.
I recently tried on the Lone Peak 5 regular width in a store, anticipating that with the model changes I would need a wide, but surprisingly the toe box in the regular width felt as generous as the toe box in my old regular width Lone Peak 4s. They didn't stock the wides, so I couldn't compare them (and I would have liked to try a regular on one foot and a wide on the other foot, just to feel the difference). I also tried on a Timp, but didn't find them as comfortable as the older model with the asymmetrical lacing.The only part of my foot that’s wide is the toe box, and the Lone Peaks were the first shoe that were comfortable ...
I think I feel exactly the same as you. The difference I noticed though was in the width of the midsole. I have small feet, ideal for bare foot waterskiing and not much else.I recently tried on the Lone Peak 5 regular width in a store, anticipating that with the model changes I would need a wide, but surprisingly the toe box in the regular width felt as generous as the toe box in my old regular width Lone Peak 4s. They didn't stock the wides, so I couldn't compare them (and I would have liked to try a regular on one foot and a wide on the other foot, just to feel the difference). I also tried on a Timp, but didn't find them as comfortable as the older model with the asymmetrical lacing.
I purchased my Lone Peak 5 wide from Northern Runner in the UK; they are significantly wider than the regular fit in the mid foot. My first pair of Altra shoes because the regular fit are too tight for me. I have plenty of room for Injinji toe liners with light merino socks on top. I lace using a runner's knot which means my foot stays snuggly in position without the rest of the laces being tight. If the ground is very uneven I will tighten the laces over my mid foot but usually I keep them quite loose there. I like the feel that my foot can flex and the toes work individually.Altra Lone Pak 5 Wides don’t seem to be available in the UK, nor the Altra Olympus
I walked the Frances on one pair of LP4s just fine but I was aware halfway that they were less absorbent. I had noticed this in training beforehand and had tried to buy replacement insolesI purchased my Lone Peak 5 wide from Northern Runner in the UK; they are significantly wider than the regular fit in the mid foot. My first pair of Altra shoes because the regular fit are too tight for me. I have plenty of room for Injinji toe liners with light merino socks on top. I lace using a runner's knot which means my foot stays snuggly in position without the rest of the laces being tight. If the ground is very uneven I will tighten the laces over my mid foot but usually I keep them quite loose there. I like the feel that my foot can flex and the toes work individually.
My Camino experiences have only involved walking for 2 weeks so far. Both times my feet felt tender especially under the heels come the end. I think I have banged them down when walking, probably when I was over-determined to get somewhere! As I practice walking in the LP's I am trying to be more mindful as I walk and not bash down with my feet. These shoes certainly make it easier to feel what you are doing and I enjoy the sensation feedback.
Having seen thru-hikers in the US using Lone Peak's they seem to last about 500 miles. If Covid allows I am hoping to walk the CF in Spring. I was assuming a new pair would see me from SJPP to the end....am I wrong?
FYI, my LP’s lasted the entire CF, but not much longer. Good idea to send the new ones ahead.The toe box in both the standard and wide is very generous and the main reason I selected Lone Peaks in the first place
My unscientific point of view, garnered only from wearing both at the same time and then the Wides for a couple of weeks, is that whereas the 5 standard fitted me perfectly it didn’t feel that I would have any room for swelling as the laces were fully let out already
The wide feels like it might slip about a bit if I didn’t tighten up the laces but so far I am very happy with them. The extra width is in the mid sole. I suspect that on closer examination it would be clear that this is where there’s extra width.
Just to repeat. The toe box is very broad in both on my toes don’t get anywhere near the sides or the front on both the standard or wides. They are brilliant at the moment, but I have a sneaking suspicion that they will lose their cushioning within 250 mikes.
As a precaution I plan to send a spare pair and other supplies to Leon and hang the expense! Not very pilgrim-like but I can donate the new or old ones debening on how emotionally attached I am to the pair that got me to Leon.
Hope this helps, please don’t hesitate to ask anything you want. I will post a comparison with the Olympus when they arrive. I have already discarded the Timps as an option but plan to tryout the Hoka Speedgoats, despite the absurd name and their ugliness
As a footnote. I have a pair of the all weather goretex Lows. They are fantastic for walking in freezing de-covered grass but in good weather days my feet begin to sweat very quickly
I will rely on my waterproof merino lined socks from Sealskinz for rain days
Just an obersevation from an old man: What do hiking shoes and mattress have in common?Altra Lone Pak 5 Wides don’t seem to be available in the UK, nor the Altra Olympus
I have just tried the 5s against the 5 Wides and there is a significant difference. The Wides, which I had sent from the US are, unsurprisingly wider! They are similar to the 4s I walked the Frances in 2 years ago, which were brilliant.
Both pairs fit well but I am 100% confident that if my feet swell, as I expect them to, the Wides will be a better bet.
I hope this is useful info to someone.
Anyone have anything to say about the cushioning of the Altra Olympus and any downsides?
Many thanks, Chris
I have decided to order both a regular and a wide, compare them, and then send one back. As I was looking for a good source of Altras, REI popped up (not surprisingly). But what is surprising to me is the fact that Altra has made a “10th Anniversary” edition of their shoe.
Altra Lone Peak 5 Trail-Running Shoes - 10th Anniversary Edition - Men's | REI Co-op
Celebrate the Lone Peak legacy with this 10th Anniversary Edition of the men's Altra Lone Peak 5 trail-running shoes, which feature a special retro look and materials inspired by the original.www.rei.com
The description says:
Celebrate the Lone Peak legacy with this 10th Anniversary Edition of the men's Altra Lone Peak 5 trail-running shoes, which feature a special retro look and materials inspired by the original.
So, does this mean that there are people who would buy this shoe because of its throwback look? Why would anyone buy a Lone Peak 5 made of materials “inspired” by the original, if the makers of the shoe have presumably stopped using those materials for good reason.
I realize I am kind of venting rather than asking a question.But I was surprised to see that the world of fashion and image plays a part in something as unglamorous as trying to find a shoe that won’t wreck your feet while you walk.
The LP5's are differet to the previous, ones they are slightly slippy on rocky wet surfaces which isn't a problem on the CF apart from a couple of places potentially. My LP3 never slip and the only reason I think it's changed is because they are using a different compound on the soles, which might have more durability but then has taken away from its grip.. My Torins have a different compound and no traditional grips like trails shoes but they stick to wet surfaces, if they weren't so fragile I would only consider them as my sole footwear for caminos, they are the most comfortable and light shoes I have ever had. My planning for routes next year means I know I will end up on quite rough trails and with at least one downward descent on a potentially dangerous place if it it is wet, so I taking my Torins in addition to a more sturdy Altra to give me safety at those locations, the Torins are lighter than some sandals I have had.They have amazing grip though so I never slipped.
I buy Superfeet insoles for my Altras and like them.Thank you. That is exceptionally helpful. I have also tried to get replacement insoles over here but the sale volumes of Altra are so low that its impossible to get any one to help
I only recently took the bold step ( for me) of putting my mids to one side and confronting my fear of going over on my ankles, I wore Altra Olympus on the Camino in winter 2019. The decision was forced on me by walking in mids on the Cam de Lana in 2018 which turned out to be very bad for my feet, I developed a very painful bunion on my left foot from them I didn't didn't do any training or hiking for over a year, I knew afterwards that the footwear which would be able to accommodate my feet without squashing them were all mostly low cut, so I took a chance and from mid 2019 I built up the strength in my ankles by walking in low cut altras, and it worked. The only time I felt my ankles was going to flip on Camino was on a wet and windy descent into Acebo when I was feeling very tired, and even then I had let myself be pressured into going on the rocky trail when my instinct was saying stay on the road.The Timps are a good shoe, I’m just concerned about the grip and durability. I’m thinking about wearing non-gortex boots , appreciate they will be heavier bu5 thinking I’ll need the ankle support at a point
Altra makes a Lonepeak Vflex in both mesh and waterproof. I use the waterproof for winter hiking in the Seattle area they work great.The Timps are a good shoe, I’m just concerned about the grip and durability. I’m thinking about wearing non-gortex boots , appreciate they will be heavier bu5 thinking I’ll need the ankle support at a point
It's infuriating, isn't it? I have my bike shoes sent from the US for the same reason. I don't even have the option of buying men's shoes which are usually cut wider because I take a small size.Altra Lone Pak 5 Wides don’t seem to be available in the UK, nor the Altra Olympus
I have just tried the 5s against the 5 Wides and there is a significant difference. The Wides, which I had sent from the US are, unsurprisingly wider! They are similar to the 4s I walked the Frances in 2 years ago, which were brilliant.
Both pairs fit well but I am 100% confident that if my feet swell, as I expect them to, the Wides will be a better bet.
I hope this is useful info to someone.
Anyone have anything to say about the cushioning of the Altra Olympus and any downsides?
Many thanks, Chris
The statistics show that mid cut boots don't actually give any real protection to your ankles, there are just as many injuries wearing those as wearing low cut shoes. You might consider using a light ankle support if you're worried.I only recently took the bold step ( for me) of putting my mids to one side and confronting my fear of going over on my ankles, I wore Altra Olympus on the Camino in winter 2019. The decision was forced on me by walking in mids on the Cam de Lana in 2018 which turned out to be very bad for my feet, I developed a very painful bunion on my left foot from them I didn't didn't do any training or hiking for over a year, I knew afterwards that the footwear which would be able to accommodate my feet without squashing them were all mostly low cut, so I took a chance and from mid 2019 I built up the strength in my ankles by walking in low cut altras, and it worked. The only time I felt my ankles was going to flip on Camino was on a wet and windy descent into Acebo when I was feeling very tired, and even then I had let myself be pressured into going on the rocky trail when my instinct was saying stay on the road.
So you can build up ankle strength but it needs preparation before the Camino.
I remember that very sketchy descent from El Acebo to Molinaseca as being one of the few places I slipped on rock.I only recently took the bold step ( for me) of putting my mids to one side and confronting my fear of going over on my ankles, I wore Altra Olympus on the Camino in winter 2019. The decision was forced on me by walking in mids on the Cam de Lana in 2018 which turned out to be very bad for my feet, I developed a very painful bunion on my left foot from them I didn't didn't do any training or hiking for over a year, I knew afterwards that the footwear which would be able to accommodate my feet without squashing them were all mostly low cut, so I took a chance and from mid 2019 I built up the strength in my ankles by walking in low cut altras, and it worked. The only time I felt my ankles was going to flip on Camino was on a wet and windy descent into Acebo when I was feeling very tired, and even then I had let myself be pressured into going on the rocky trail when my instinct was saying stay on the road.
So you can build up ankle strength but it needs preparation before the Camino.
I have decided to order both a regular and a wide, compare them, and then send one back. As I was looking for a good source of Altras, REI popped up (not surprisingly). But what is surprising to me is the fact that Altra has made a “10th Anniversary” edition of their shoe.
Altra Lone Peak 5 Trail-Running Shoes - 10th Anniversary Edition - Men's | REI Co-op
Celebrate the Lone Peak legacy with this 10th Anniversary Edition of the men's Altra Lone Peak 5 trail-running shoes, which feature a special retro look and materials inspired by the original.www.rei.com
The description says:
Celebrate the Lone Peak legacy with this 10th Anniversary Edition of the men's Altra Lone Peak 5 trail-running shoes, which feature a special retro look and materials inspired by the original.
So, does this mean that there are people who would buy this shoe because of its throwback look? Why would anyone buy a Lone Peak 5 made of materials “inspired” by the original, if the makers of the shoe have presumably stopped using those materials for good reason.
I realize I am kind of venting rather than asking a question.But I was surprised to see that the world of fashion and image plays a part in something as unglamorous as trying to find a shoe that won’t wreck your feet while you walk.
Frustrating but I bought 2 spare pairs of LP5 Wides, an Olympus and the fashionable LP5 Anniversary Edition that I learned about from this group on their way to London from the US all at Black Friday price.It's infuriating, isn't it? I have my bike shoes sent from the US for the same reason. I don't even have the option of buying men's shoes which are usually cut wider because I take a small size.
Thanks, I’ll have a lookAltra makes a Lonepeak Vflex in both mesh and waterproof. I use the waterproof for winter hiking in the Seattle area they work great.
I can second that the waterproof Lows are excellent for walking in dewy freezing cold grass. Completely dry and warm unlike the frozen toes I had last winter in the regular onesThanks, I’ll have a look
I took the Olympus 3.5 and two pairs of waterproof socks in December 2019, sealskinz and bridgedale storm. The sealskinz were less sturdy than the bridgedale but that worked for my feet, I found I was losing skin between my toes with the Bridgedales because they kept my feet and toes tight together and a little unavoidable friction was happening with rubbing of the toes. I like Bridgedale socks but like anything connected with my feet, sturdy just leads to pain, so mesh type footwear and looser fitting accessories is the way forward for me.My Camino fix is regular Lone Peaks with Sealskinz socks with a waterproof membrane between two layers of merino wool
I agree, shoes like a clown for meIts
I took the Olympus 3.5 and two pairs of waterproof socks in December 2019, sealskinz and bridgedale storm. The sealskinz were less sturdy than the bridgedale but that worked for my feet, I found I was losing skin between my toes with the Bridgedales because they kept my feet and toes tight together and a little unavoidable friction was happening with rubbing of the toes. I like Bridgedale socks but like anything connected with my feet, sturdy just leads to pain, so mesh type footwear and looser fitting accessories is the way forward for me.
My husband has a newer version of the Lone Peak and he is not happy with the materials. The "waterproof" area has cracked after only a short time. He might like the retro version if they went back to the original- I think he started with LP2.I have decided to order both a regular and a wide, compare them, and then send one back. As I was looking for a good source of Altras, REI popped up (not surprisingly). But what is surprising to me is the fact that Altra has made a “10th Anniversary” edition of their shoe.
Altra Lone Peak 5 Trail-Running Shoes - 10th Anniversary Edition - Men's | REI Co-op
Celebrate the Lone Peak legacy with this 10th Anniversary Edition of the men's Altra Lone Peak 5 trail-running shoes, which feature a special retro look and materials inspired by the original.www.rei.com
The description says:
Celebrate the Lone Peak legacy with this 10th Anniversary Edition of the men's Altra Lone Peak 5 trail-running shoes, which feature a special retro look and materials inspired by the original.
So, does this mean that there are people who would buy this shoe because of its throwback look? Why would anyone buy a Lone Peak 5 made of materials “inspired” by the original, if the makers of the shoe have presumably stopped using those materials for good reason.
I realize I am kind of venting rather than asking a question.But I was surprised to see that the world of fashion and image plays a part in something as unglamorous as trying to find a shoe that won’t wreck your feet while you walk.
Thank you for this. It’s very interesting. I will watch out carefully to see how my LP5 all weather Lows survive winter hikingMy husband has a newer version of the Lone Peak and he is not happy with the materials. The "waterproof" area has cracked after only a short time. He might like the retro version if they went back to the original- I think he started with LP2.
Santa brought me two pairs of Lone Peak 5s — one wide, one “regular.” I have worn Lone Peaks for about four years on the camino now and have no complaints. This is the first year Altra has made a wide shoe, so I was concerned about how they would size their “regular” width shoe. The one-width Lone Peaks fit me perfectly in the 3.5, 4.0 and 4.5 versions. I am happy to report that the new “regular width” Lone Peak 5 fits me just like the one-width-Lone Peak 4.5.
I do not use the “waterproof” version because I only walk in spring/summer and have found that it is much easier to dry a wet shoe if you don’t have the waterproof kind.
Hoping that Santa treated other forum members well, buen camino, Laurie
Just to clarify — is “mid foot” the part between the heel and the toe box, where the arch is? If so, I think I know why I wouldn’t have noticed it. Since I always wore narrow shoes till bunions made my toe box so wide, I bet that the mid foot part has always been more than ample. But feet are very strange body parts, I have learned, so maybe it’s something else.The standard version of my LP 5 is as comfortable as the 4.5s before but I feel it is a bit snugger around the mid foot
When I tried on an earlier Lone Peak, I found that the toe box was nice and wide, but the volume around the mid-foot did not accommodate my high arch and instep. It is interesting to observe these subtle differences.is “mid foot” the part between the heel and the toe box, where the arch is?
Peregrina2000, you have described exactly what I meant. The arch part of the shoe seems wider, certainly the lacing has a lot of potential to loosen for my feet, which the standard does notJust to clarify — is “mid foot” the part between the heel and the toe box, where the arch is? If so, I think I know why I wouldn’t have noticed it. Since I always wore narrow shoes till bunions made my toe box so wide, I bet that the mid foot part has always been more than ample. But feet are very strange body parts, I have learned, so maybe it’s something else.
Any idea what the “improvements“ will be on the 6?
Thanks for posting this info on the Lone Peak 6's! I have the LP 5's in a men's size wide, which is a godsend for my very wide feet, especially when I wear mid-weight cushioned socks and liner socks which work best for me when hiking.There is a 12 minute video review of the Lone Peak 6 here:
The reviewer says the following items have stayed the same:
- zero-drop platform
- foot-shaped toe box
- integrated stoneguard
- cushioned midsole
Changes include:
- improved drainage
- new lacing pattern with optional holes to accommodate a high instep
It will come in standard and wide widths in the 'original fit' from 10 years ago. On the other hand, the new Timp model will be a bit narrower.
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