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If you’ve got a few minutes to spare you could look at a few dictionary definitions of thermal and then probably conclude that it’s as applicable to clothing as “recyclable” is to plastic.Have you ever researched something to the point that the more you read the more confused you end up? That’s me on trying to buy a stupid shirt.
What I desire is a long sleeve Merino wool shirt suitable for hot weather. I hike in 35 to 40 degree celcius and I imagine that the temps in September will be a little less than that.
My frustration comes from the fact that every long sleeve merino wool shirt I encounter says it is “thermal” which I read as keeps you warm. The further description will say it’s great for skiing or winter sports. I reached out to Danish Endurance and asked them but no response. If you have experience with this issue I’m all ears and grateful.
Nope, nice try but no cigar. Arguably clothing that transfers heat efficiently but that doesn’t suggest it applies a heat benefit. There is no way in which merino wool will generate heat until you put a match to itEh
Therm-al
Heat-<adj>
To do with heat. Ie clothing that helps keep you warm.
Thermal doesn’t mean “generating heat”. It’s much broader than that - anything having to do with heat.Nope, nice try but no cigar. Arguably clothing that transfers heat efficiently but that doesn’t suggest it applies a heat benefit. There is no way in which merino wool will generate heat until you put a match to it
Looks like we agree on at least some of the meaning of thermal. Having to do with heat. That wool can generate, or absorb, heat? I’ll agree that if you burn wool then its interaction with oxygen will produce heat. But the idea that wet wool will generate heat via the evaporation of water - why have we even bothered with solar power stations when all we needed was a bunch of wet sheep. If I’d realized that all those years ago I’d never have lost my farm at Ty NantThermal doesn’t mean “generating heat”. It’s much broader than that - anything having to do with heat.
Wool does actually generate heat as is it absorbs water vapour (and absorbs heat as it dries), but that’s not what’s being referred to.
I can cite you a CSIRO textiles scientist if you want.Looks like we agree on at least some of the meaning of thermal. Having to do with heat. That wool can generate, or absorb, heat? I’ll agree that if you burn wool then its interaction with oxygen will produce heat. But the idea that wet wool will generate heat via the evaporation of water - why have we even bothered with solar power stations when all we needed was a bunch of wet sheep. If I’d realized that all those years ago I’d never have lost my farm at Ty Nant
Have you ever researched something to the point that the more you read the more confused you end up? That’s me on trying to buy a stupid shirt.
What I desire is a long sleeve Merino wool shirt suitable for hot weather. I hike in 35 to 40 degree celcius and I imagine that the temps in September will be a little less than that.
My frustration comes from the fact that every long sleeve merino wool shirt I encounter says it is “thermal” which I read as keeps you warm. The further description will say it’s great for skiing or winter sports. I reached out to Danish Endurance and asked them but no response. If you have experience with this issue I’m all ears and grateful.
Have you ever researched something to the point that the more you read the more confused you end up? That’s me on trying to buy a stupid shirt.
What I desire is a long sleeve Merino wool shirt suitable for hot weather. I hike in 35 to 40 degree celcius and I imagine that the temps in September will be a little less than that.
My frustration comes from the fact that every long sleeve merino wool shirt I encounter says it is “thermal” which I read as keeps you warm. The further description will say it’s great for skiing or winter sports. I reached out to Danish Endurance and asked them but no response. If you have experience with this issue I’m all ears and grateful.
Wool will dry out and become damaged and even itchy through exposure to hot temps and sunlight.
Not what you asked but something worth considering.
Merino comes in many grades. The finer it is the softer, and less itchy, but less robust and more expensive.Mine don't.
Those you mention might not have a high% Merino.
I have found some are itchy if low % Merino.
True. The good ones are not cheap.Merino comes in many grades. The finer it is the softer, and less itchy, but less robust and more expensive.
Premium brands like Icebreaker buy top quality merino and pay the price. Some cheaper brands will be using less fine grades.
Agree completely. Also, I bought $25 Canadian for a long sleeve t shirt at Costco, 100% merino, no bells and whistles but really like them. It’s one of these no name companies I think-True North or smith.True. The good ones are not cheap.
I use Icebreaker. But even their shirts are a lower % Merino or poorer quality now. Some are itchy.
Hard to find the really good soft ones. (at least here in Australia)
I have about 20 Icebreaker Merino Shirts. Been buying them for about 10 years.
The heavy weights (200 gsm plus) I wear at home in the winter.
The Featherweights (120-130 gsm) I wear on Camino.
Pat wears 150-180 on Camino as she feels the cold more.
I don't think I have any left from 10 yeas ago.
But they were the best! Very fine Merino, high quality, non itchy.
In 2018 they were sold to a US Company, and I think the quality changed then.
For the last 5 years or so, I haven't been able to get those good shirts.
Now they are a poorer quality Merino and a higher % synthetic.
This makes them more sweaty and more itchy.
I'm told it's also something to do with the weave.
But I think that's an excuse to cover up the lower quality.
I suspect the changes were made as the older style, whilst a lot more comfortable, was not hard wearing.
On my first Camino in 2015 I had to darn holes that appeared.
Obvious move for a new owner I guess.
Cut down the complaints and returns, make them harder wearing.
As with many things..........it's a compromise.
But I'm always on the lookout for an alternative to Icebreaker.
They downgraded the product quality, and that really pxxxsed me off.
As soon as I find a better alternative, I'll change brands.
Ditto what many others have said. My three go to brands are Smartwool, Ibex, and Icebreaker. All have lightweight long sleeve shirts that should fit your need. Buen camino!Have you ever researched something to the point that the more you read the more confused you end up? That’s me on trying to buy a stupid shirt.
What I desire is a long sleeve Merino wool shirt suitable for hot weather. I hike in 35 to 40 degree celcius and I imagine that the temps in September will be a little less than that.
My frustration comes from the fact that every long sleeve merino wool shirt I encounter says it is “thermal” which I read as keeps you warm. The further description will say it’s great for skiing or winter sports. I reached out to Danish Endurance and asked them but no response. If you have experience with this issue I’m all ears and grateful.
For May-June last year I took 2 Icebreaker 175 Merino long sleeve and two Icebreaker 175 Merino short sleeve.They were very light and and perfect for that time of year. I also have a Smartwool 250 Merino long sleeve thermal that I did not take but will have it in case I walk a March or October Camino in the future.Have you ever researched something to the point that the more you read the more confused you end up? That’s me on trying to buy a stupid shirt.
What I desire is a long sleeve Merino wool shirt suitable for hot weather. I hike in 35 to 40 degree celcius and I imagine that the temps in September will be a little less than that.
My frustration comes from the fact that every long sleeve merino wool shirt I encounter says it is “thermal” which I read as keeps you warm. The further description will say it’s great for skiing or winter sports. I reached out to Danish Endurance and asked them but no response. If you have experience with this issue I’m all ears and grateful.
I use a light 150 merino sun hoodie which has long sleeves with thumb holes, it works really well at wicking the sweat away from my body keeping me cooler, the hood goes over my baseball cap keeping the sun off my head & neck.Have you ever researched something to the point that the more you read the more confused you end up? That’s me on trying to buy a stupid shirt.
What I desire is a long sleeve Merino wool shirt suitable for hot weather. I hike in 35 to 40 degree celcius and I imagine that the temps in September will be a little less than that.
My frustration comes from the fact that every long sleeve merino wool shirt I encounter says it is “thermal” which I read as keeps you warm. The further description will say it’s great for skiing or winter sports. I reached out to Danish Endurance and asked them but no response. If you have experience with this issue I’m all ears and grateful.
If you have a buttoned shirt in mind, consider Pendleton wool, cold water washable wool. Can unbutton if too warm, or wrap sleeves around waist. I have 2 Danish endurance pullover merino wool Ts. Merino wool IS thermal. I wear these over Tek fabric Ts, such as BodyGlove or UnderArmour.Have you ever researched something to the point that the more you read the more confused you end up? That’s me on trying to buy a stupid shirt.
What I desire is a long sleeve Merino wool shirt suitable for hot weather. I hike in 35 to 40 degree celcius and I imagine that the temps in September will be a little less than that.
My frustration comes from the fact that every long sleeve merino wool shirt I encounter says it is “thermal” which I read as keeps you warm. The further description will say it’s great for skiing or winter sports. I reached out to Danish Endurance and asked them but no response. If you have experience with this issue I’m all ears and grateful.
In Australia, Wilderness Wear. I love their stuff and it’s actually made by them in Melbourne.True. The good ones are not cheap.
I use Icebreaker. But even their shirts are a lower % Merino or poorer quality now. Some are itchy.
Hard to find the really good soft ones. (at least here in Australia)
I no longer use wool shirts for the reason you describe. While they wick moisture well, they also tend to be heavier than synthetics. I have switched totally to a much lighter fabric with wicks as well or better than wool. My shirt of choice is made by Patagonia with their proprietary fabric called Capilene (which is a blend of recycled polyester). It is very lightweight and has a silky feel to it. It's perfect as a summer shirt or as a base layer for other clothing.Have you ever researched something to the point that the more you read the more confused you end up? That’s me on trying to buy a stupid shirt.
What I desire is a long sleeve Merino wool shirt suitable for hot weather. I hike in 35 to 40 degree celcius and I imagine that the temps in September will be a little less than that.
My frustration comes from the fact that every long sleeve merino wool shirt I encounter says it is “thermal” which I read as keeps you warm. The further description will say it’s great for skiing or winter sports. I reached out to Danish Endurance and asked them but no response. If you have experience with this issue I’m all ears and grateful.
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