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I've seen some albergues that only allow large groups after 4pm or so, and the one large group that I encountered (about 60 people) had alternative accommodation lined up everywhere
I for one am not so happy to share an albergue with so big groups, most of the time they have a big influence on the atmosphere in the albergue.
Ah, there lies a difference between democracy and organization- if you’re going to organize a group you have to organize it. Where to sleep, where to eat and probably what, route, distances, transport and timings. Then all you have to do is enjoy yourselfPersonally I would not get involved in a group anything, you are very likely to starve to death. When there are more than 3 people together it is usually impossible to agree where, when and what to eat this leads to many hours of trying to please everyone one untill all the restaurant s are closed. Increase the number of participants to forty and a decision will never be made.
Given the two choices, I heartily endorse a group Camino. Good luckI haven't given the full context because there are issues of confidentiality here, but in short it's a group Camino or no Camino. So the question is about finding resources to help organise one. Thanks.
Ask what time it is, and someone will tell you how to build a clock...So the question is about finding resources to help organise one. Thanks.
www.gronze.com; www.booking.com - thats about it. Or you turn to the many, oh so many, companies that "organize" caminos for individuals and groups. I'll not post any suggestions here as I would not wish to be accused of bias. A Google search will lead you to an infinity of possibilities though I would advise you to scroll down the page till you get past the paid positions and any link to this forum.I haven't given the full context because there are issues of confidentiality here, but in short it's a group Camino or no Camino. So the question is about finding resources to help organise one. Thanks.
Or why time doesn't really matter, and you shouldn't use a clock.Ask what time it is, and someone will tell you how to build a clock...
I think this mostly applies to life on the camino, unless you are staying in the albergues...in by 10:00, out by 8:00.Or why time doesn't really matter, and you shouldn't use a clock.
Hi everyone. Just wondering if anyone knows of any resources for large-ish groups doing the Camino? The group in question is about 20 people. I've seen some albergues that only allow large groups after 4pm or so, and the one large group that I encountered (about 60 people) had alternative accommodation lined up everywhere, as well as a bus to get them from the marked route to their accommodation and back. Thanks.
I haven't given the full context because there are issues of confidentiality here, but in short it's a group Camino or no Camino. So the question is about finding resources to help organise one. Thanks.
Jesus is owner of the albergues???Another resource is Only Pilgrims website. Though this website you can book private albergues and the owner, Jesus, is very helpful. I have used this site many times.
Yes, all of them.Jesus is owner of the albergues???
Yes, all of them.
A group of 20 requires a co-leader – to bring up the rear and pick up stragglers – and most importantly to give assistance in a crisis. Sh*t happens.
Jill
Jesus is a lovely young man that runs the website. He lives in Leon and I had the privilege of meeting him last September. I don't know if I even asked for his last name. When I walked the Camino alone last May he gave me his personal cell number which I used when a 76 year old woman was worried because every place was full the next night and for health reasons she needed to transfer her backpack which requires a reservation address. I called him and he found her a bed in a place she had been told was full and even arranged the backpack transport. I am older too but I think he treats all his customers with the same kindness.Jesus is owner of the albergues???
Is that JC or "just" Jesus (Hernandez for example)???
Oh the stories you could probably tell, Jill!A group of 20 requires a co-leader – to bring up the rear and pick up stragglers – and most importantly to give assistance in a crisis. Sh*t happens.
Jill
As far as I am concerned wearing a group shirt would be the least of my problems with big groups. In fact it could have a advantage for me, if upon arrival I would see people with a uniform shirt, I could decide to walk on. (I don't have problems with individual people in a group, they are just as nice as any other pilgrims. Many times I don't like the, unavoidable group behaviour which can have a big influence in an albergue.Well, I am going with a group of 13 people from my parish on Portuguese way from Porto in May. I have booked most of the accommodation already through booking.com or by contacting albergues. I am hoping my group, which has a wide range of ages, won't be too much of bother for other pilgrims.. I have read some horror stories of groups causing problems for others. we won't be wearing any group shirts, so you won't know us until you are lucky enough to meet us in albergues..
There are two kind of problems with group travels that mingle with individual travellers: avoidable and unavoidable ones. Avoidable ones are in itself wrong in my opinion, examples are sending backpacks ahead and deposing backpacks next to beds in the albergue as a way of reserving a bed. Or at resting places reserve tables ahead by ropes or something like dad.And what is the group behaviour that you are concerned about? Personally, I have never encountered groups in albergue on previous two caminos, only on the road, so I don't know what that would be. Maybe I can talk to the group so that won't offend anyone.
Of course not all groups are the same: people in groups are just as likely to be nice, loveworthy people as individual walkers. Groupbehaviour though has unavoidable effects. If I meet a fellow traveller that I don't like, I can neglect him or her much easier than I could a whole group. I can imagine circumstances though where people tend to prefer traveling in a group. I wish you and your companions a very good Camino and hope that it will bring you everything that you are looking forThank you for letting me know about your opinion on a group walking the camino. Certainly we won't be doing anything that you described as reserving beds such way or any other public resting places. I have walked by myself and another time with few friends and no matter who we encounter, I believe respecting others is an important element of the camino. So, that's what we will do as a group.
Also, I believe everyone has different reason to be on Camino and has a place on it whether as a solo walker or as a group. I don't think you can generalize saying that solo walking has advantage over group or vice versa. Everyone has their reason and we need to respect that. Yes, groups can be noisy, but so is single walker or camino family you form along the way, when people do not respect others.
If your mind is set to dislike groups you will always have problem with them, but if you are open to them, who knows, you may realize that not all the groups are the same just like no individual you encounter on the camino and life is the same.
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