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questions re foot /Achilles /doctors

ISO

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SPRING 2018
#1
Hi

we two are resting in Castrojerez because of 1)arch of foot pain - not too excruciating-AND 2)Achilles pain-pretty bad

arch pain doesn't match descriptions of "plantar fasciitis "

Some youtubes re: Achilles pain say to stop walking for three weeks. Aargh

1) should we have been taking calcium/mag supplements in our water? Start now? Dosage?

2) would it help to get Doctor opinion? where are closest physicians to Castrojerez?

Thanks for advice viewpoint and information from you and saint james
 

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falcon269

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yes
#3
It probably comes from repeatedly over-doing it. Rest, ice, and ibuprofen are about your only solutions. If you cannot walk through the pain, you probably are done walking. It won't get better with use. See a doctor, and he/she may be able to prescribe a strong drug so you can at least walk around town.
 

Redhead Keith

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#4
I take magnesium powder for cramp and muscles all the time. A regular, good quality dose does help. Archiles and foot arch - sounds like potential long-term problems that need medical and specialist attention - I've required both for both. Seek medical attention and advice before you do permanent damage. I had to wait eleven years between Caminos until I had the problems sorted, through specialists. I have new inlays for my arches made to measure every year, and can not wear shoes - only boots, because of my achiles. Its worth the wait and healing. Very best wishes and good luck. PS the RICE formula helps: Rest, Ice, Compression and Elivation - and still seek medical help and advice.
 

davebugg

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#5
Check to see if you are getting any pressure, even slightly, against your Achilles tendon from the collar at the back of your shoe; that is a very common cause for the tendonitis. If such is the case, the shoe can be modified to take that pressure off. The supplements you mentioned won't help with the tendonitis. How to best treat it is something that needs the advice of a physician doing an exam.

When you speak of 'arch of foot' pain, are you referring to the top of the arch, or to that location on the sole of the foot?
 

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#6
As someone who has twice had an Achilles surgically repaired (left foot) and had plantar fascia surgery (right foot), I would strongly encourage you to be evaluated by a physician. Better safe than sorry.
 

SYates

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#7
The hospitaler@ can advice you where to find a doctor in Castrojeriz and yes, that is your best option we can all give our opinions, but only a professional that sees your feet can give you a diagnosis ;-)
Buen Camino, SY
 

ISO

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SPRING 2018
#8
Thank you all for your good advice and help.

We went to doctor she said slow down. Walk shorter distances. Carry less weight. Change shoes. Take more ibuprofen. So we will carry on tomorrow

PS What is hospitaler @? Does every town have one?
 

ISO

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SPRING 2018
#10
Check to see if you are getting any pressure, even slightly, against your Achilles tendon from the collar at the back of your shoe; that is a very common cause for the tendonitis. If such is the case, the shoe can be modified to take that pressure off. The supplements you mentioned won't help with the tendonitis. How to best treat it is something that needs the advice of a physician doing an exam.

When you speak of 'arch of foot' pain, are you referring to the top of the arch, or to that location on the sole of the foot?

I am referring to side of foot in arch area not quite in arch and not quite on top of foot. (more ache than pain usually unless I walk on rock)sometimes Wanders onto top of foot. Have put clay poultice on it. Feels swollen. Can get quite hot! Doctor suggests different footwear. Feels like it needs arch support.
 

davebugg

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#11
I am referring to side of foot in arch area not quite in arch and not quite on top of foot. (more ache than pain usually unless I walk on rock)sometimes Wanders onto top of foot. Have put clay poultice on it. Feels swollen. Can get quite hot! Doctor suggests different footwear. Feels like it needs arch support.
If I am understanding your subjective description with any accuracy, do an assessment on both the width of the shoes and how tight you are tying them. One answer could be that both things are too tight. Severe aching pain can occur from either or both.

When wearing the same socks and insoles that you wear for Camino, and with your fully loaded backpack on, when you stand with your weight centered over each foot in turn, you should just barely discern the sides of the footwear touching your foot. There should be no feeling of impingement, tightness, or snugness at all.

When tying the footwear, you do not want the laces drawn snug to the point that, from the toe area to above the arch, things feel at all tight. Sometimes this can be a bit problematic because the lacing system may not allow for individual sections of the shoe to be tightened separately. In other words, in order to get just enough shoelace tension to keep the heel from slipping out of the shoe, the tension of the laces can put too much pressure around the toes and instep/arch area.

In cases like this, I will get the ideal tension on my laces adjusted to about the middle of the instep, and then tie a square knot at that location. Then I proceed to continue to finish lacing to the top of the shoe, and can adjust the tension separately and appropriately for the heel before tying the shoe as one normally does.

I don't know if this is the problem you are having or not; I am suggesting this as one possibility that you can investigate yourself as a resolution.

Whatever the issue, I hope things resolve well and quickly for you :)
 
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#12
I injured my Achilles quite badly (not torn) and my specialist told me that when I walk distance to rub in some voltern before walking. He prescribed a compounded 10% voltern. You could check at a pharmacia and see what they can do for you. This provided some positive help and in the following two years I walked over 2300 kms of Camino, plus all my other walking. It took time but it's healed now. I also stretch them really carefully and well before I begin each day. Perhaps this solution might help you. Buen Camino!:cool:
 
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LePuy 15
Invierno DosFaros CP 16
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Sicily. Arles-Santiago Fall 18
#13
Oh, and about the arch, pick up a small ball like a tennis ball and standing, gently roll out the bottoms of each foot before you walk and after as well. Wearing shoes, most of us don't properly work those muscles, so they weaken.
 
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May 2013
#14
Hi

we two are resting in Castrojerez because of 1)arch of foot pain - not too excruciating-AND 2)Achilles pain-pretty bad

arch pain doesn't match descriptions of "plantar fasciitis "

Some youtubes re: Achilles pain say to stop walking for three weeks. Aargh

1) should we have been taking calcium/mag supplements in our water? Start now? Dosage?

2) would it help to get Doctor opinion? where are closest physicians to Castrojerez?

Thanks for advice viewpoint and information from you and saint james
I had foot pain on the back and bottom of my heel while hiking. I went to Dr and he explained it this way. Your calf muscle Is too tight causing constant pullingl on your Achilles when hiking/walking. He recommended stretching the calf muscles three times a day. I followed his advice and was soon pain free. Here is a link with some exercised for the calf.

https://www.healthline.com/health/fitness-exercise/plantar-fasciitis-stretches
 
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Camino Frances - June 2018
#15
Having had plantar Fasciitis in the past from running and pounding the pavement - I know it takes forever to heal - if you over-stretch once the symptoms set in then you just manage to tear it more. I had treatments but here at home - shock wave therapy that really helped but on trail best you can do is ice, ibuprofen, light stretching and rolling arch over hard ball - also Birkenstock inserts in shoes really help and making sure that at night you are not pointing your toes but splinting them up to lengthen achilles tendon in stretched position - hope this helps!!!
 
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French 2017
#16
I'm coming to this discussion late but I hope that my comments may still be helpful.
I was doing the CF in May last year and had Achilles pain in my left leg. It was sharp while walking but with ibuprofen and because I didn't want to stop I continued on for another 10 or more days. At Trabadelo, taking a step on uneven ground the Achilles tore. That was the end of my Camino and the recovery is hard and long involving being immobile for 6 weeks or so. Clearly, I should have stopped.
If you are getting advice to rest for a couple of weeks, I suggest strongly that you take it.
As for me, a year on I'm well recovered and turning my mind to returning to the Camino next year.
 

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