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Not necessarily the Cathedral, but you can if you want to.So if starting at Porto, we need to go into the Cathedral to get our first stamp, correct?
It's the Se Cathedral in Porto. It's not required to get a stamp there, but it's nice to start there.1) We already have Credentials from books we've bought. So if starting at Porto, we need to go into the Cathedral to get our first stamp, correct? Can anyone tell me the name of the Cathedral? I'd like to check hours as we start walking on a Saturday.
In past years the process too much longer. Nowadays you pre-register for the Compostela and it shouldn't take more than half an hour.2) In Santiago, is it best to plan nothing else the morning you get in line to get your Compostela? I've heard you check in and then are given a time to return. Is this usually 1-2 hours later? I've read morning is best before 10.
Yes, the hours are 9 - 7. Information on this Google Maps link:3) I have read that you go to the International Pilgrim's Reception Center and they are open 9-7 daily. Is there anything else helpful to know? Thank you!
I am curious about these - did you get separate official credentials when you happened to buy some books? Or where these part of another book?We already have Credentials from books we've bought.
Maybe they bought guidebooks from the forum store and received credentials with them.I am curious about these - did you get separate official credentials when you happened to buy some books? Or where these part of another book?
That's what I meant. If so, they will be fine.Maybe they bought guidebooks from the forum store and received credentials with them.
“the only real rule is get 2/day in the final 100K if you want your Compostela”Not necessarily the Cathedral, but you can if you want to.
Probably more important symbolically for a first Camino I'd guess -- the only real rule is get 2/day in the final 100K if you want your Compostela, else 1/day along the way to show in the Albergues that you're a pilgrim.
If you're staying overnight prior to departure, then at least get one from where you'll stay.
Maybe get one from your local Parish Church at home ?
It isn't hard and fast. The volunteers can exercise some discretion. But if receiving a Compostela is important then it makes little sense to disregard the rules and risk being refused.It makes me wonder how hard and fast the rule is.
Exactly. And if you get someone in the office who is going by the rules, saying you read on the internet that it wasn't necessary isn't going to cut it.It isn't hard and fast. The volunteers can exercise some discretion. But if receiving a Compostela is important then it makes little sense to disregard the rules and risk being refused.
I no longer ask for a Compostela at the end of my Caminos but I would never have asked for one before visiting the Cathedral. The Compostela testifies that the named person has visited the tomb of the Apostle so it seems a nonsense to request one before having done so. Why would I want to hang a lie on my wall?I might also plan to go to pilgrim mass if you get your compostellas quickly or put off getting the compostellas until.after pilgrim mass. Even if you are not religious it adds closure to the journey.
Not all pilgrims know this and they don't ask you at the Pilgrim office if you visited the tomb of the Apostle when you get a Compostela.I no longer ask for a Compostela at the end of my Caminos but I would never have asked for one before visiting the Cathedral. The Compostela testifies that the named person has visited the tomb of the Apostle so it seems a nonsense to request one before having done so. Why would I want to hang a lie on my wall?
It's "ad limina" which means literally "to the thresholds"/"to the doors", but really, de facto, the Cathedral plus its immediate surroundings.I no longer ask for a Compostela at the end of my Caminos but I would never have asked for one before visiting the Cathedral. The Compostela testifies that the named person has visited the tomb of the Apostle so it seems a nonsense to request one before having done so. Why would I want to hang a lie on my wall?
In its translations of the Compostela and other texts the Cathedral renders ad limina as "to the Tomb of the Apostle" ("hasta la Tumba del Apóstol"). In the most common modern usage of ad limina - the mandatory visit by Catholic bishops to Rome every five years - Catholic canon law makes it quite explicit that the visiting bishop is to venerate the tombs of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul ("Beatorum Apostolorum Petri et Pauli sepulcra veneraturus"). ad limina in the specifically religious context clearly means more than just being in the general vicinity.It's "ad limina" which means literally "to the thresholds"/"to the doors", but really, de facto, the Cathedral plus its immediate surroundings.
So if you've reached the plaza, you've reached "ad limina".
Yes, we are in Lisbon, Fatima and Porto at least two days each. So you are saying get one our last day in Porto? I can do that, and also one day one in the Cathedral. Thank you!Not necessarily the Cathedral, but you can if you want to.
Probably more important symbolically for a first Camino I'd guess -- the only real rule is get 2/day in the final 100K if you want your Compostela, else 1/day along the way to show in the Albergues that you're a pilgrim.
If you're staying overnight prior to departure, then at least get one from where you'll stay.
Maybe get one from your local Parish Church at home ?
Oh awesome, thank you so much!! That was all so helpful!It's the Se Cathedral in Porto. It's not required to get a stamp there, but it's nice to start there.
In past years the process too much longer. Nowadays you pre-register for the Compostela and it shouldn't take more than half an hour.
Here's the link to register.
Yes, the hours are 9 - 7. Information on this Google Maps link:
Pilgrim's Reception Office · Rúa das Carretas, 33, 15705 Santiago de Compostela, A Coruña, Spain
âââââ · Tourist information centermaps.app.goo.gl
Yes, I got them with books I bought from the Camino Forum store. I took pics but lately (2nd time now!) Apple has turned my photos into an HEIC format and I can't upload them anywhere. Oy vay!!I am curious about these - did you get separate official credentials when you happened to buy some books? Or where these part of another book?
I only ask because I remember this thread, which didn't reach a clear conclusion. Maybe you could post a photo of yours.
Yes, that is correct.Maybe they bought guidebooks from the forum store and received credentials with them.
Then they are good to go!Yes, I got them with books I bought from the Camino Forum store.
Oh, I didn't know that! Well, we are going there before the Compostela so inadvertently I planned it that way!I no longer ask for a Compostela at the end of my Caminos but I would never have asked for one before visiting the Cathedral. The Compostela testifies that the named person has visited the tomb of the Apostle so it seems a nonsense to request one before having done so. Why would I want to hang a lie on my wall?
I'm sorry you no longer receive communion and have lost your religious convictions. Perhaps next time you are in Santiago or a Catholic church you can talk to a priest and just get some spiritual direction. It could be cleansing to your soul. God bless you and I will pray for you Bradypus!In its translations of the Compostela and other texts the Cathedral renders ad limina as "to the Tomb of the Apostle" ("hasta la Tumba del Apóstol"). In the most common modern usage of ad limina - the mandatory visit by Catholic bishops to Rome every five years - Catholic canon law makes it quite explicit that the visiting bishop is to venerate the tombs of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul ("Beatorum Apostolorum Petri et Pauli sepulcra veneraturus"). ad limina in the specifically religious context clearly means more than just being in the general vicinity.
I have a very strong pedantic streak and I feel that even words written in an unfamiliar language have meaning and that meaning should be respected. One of the reasons why I no longer ask for a Compostela at the end of my own Camino journeys is that I am no longer convinced that my own motives for walking meet the conditions named in the Compostela. I do not want to claim one under false pretences. For similar reasons I no longer receive communion when attending a eucharistic service of any denomination. I may have lost my earlier personal religious convictions but I still feel it is important to treat religious observances, customs and symbols with respect. Which includes the Compostela.
It also swings on days that a group pays for it. You don't have to belong to the group to see it. The dates and times are not publicized, so it's the luck of the draw, though if you arrive in Santiago during a busy season you have a better chance of a group paying for it.Oh, I'm definitely going! I'm Catholic so that is really important to me. I just wish I could see the Botafumeiro but that only occurs on holy days unfortunately!
You are correct, and the reference to the Catholic bishops' visits ad limina apostolorum is a good example. They don't travel to some threshold or to a building with a square in front of it, they make pilgrimage to the tombs of the apostles in Rome.In its translations of the Compostela and other texts the Cathedral renders ad limina as "to the Tomb of the Apostle" ("hasta la Tumba del Apóstol")
It isn't hard and fast. The volunteers can exercise some discretion. But if receiving a Compostela is important then it makes little sense to disregard the rules and risk being refused.
Brady is correct for sure. I think it depends on how "hard and fast" the volunteer is that you present your credential to.It makes me wonder how hard and fast the rule is.
It's a very good opinion, and I would hardly diss anyone for following it, but IMO it's an opinion insufficiently cognizant of the fundamental broad polysemy of Latin nouns and verbs, and IMO unhelpfully suggesting strict 1:1 translation into a language like modern English which creates fine semantic distinctions via a means of a large and highly detailed massive dictionary vocabulary.Brady is correct for sure.
It is all Greek to me!!It's a very good opinion, and I would hardly diss anyone for following it, but IMO it's an opinion insufficiently cognizant of the fundamental broad polysemy of Latin nouns and verbs, and IMO unhelpfully suggesting strict 1:1 translation into a language like modern English which creates fine semantic distinctions via a means of a large and highly detailed massive dictionary vocabulary.
The phrase "Ad Limina" means multiple things simultaneously in Latin, which is perfectly desirable in the Aesthetic of that (very beautiful) language.
Latin thrives on double, treble, quadruple meanings -- English is an almost exact opposite to it, aesthetically. And of course, the fine detail expressiveness of English precision is just as beautiful !!
But to try and define Latin according to the Aesthetic of English is a non-starter.
I am curious about these - did you get separate official credentials when you happened to buy some books? Or where these part of another book?
I only ask because I remember this thread, which didn't reach a clear conclusion. Maybe you could post a photo of yours.
Oh! That never occurred to me! Yes, so a paid pilgrimage group...that makes sense! I will pray that our timing coincides! I've been on several pilgrimages and I know they often have private masses but it's worth a shot! Thanks for the link!It also swings on days that a group pays for it. You don't have to belong to the group to see it. The dates and times are not publicized, so it's the luck of the draw, though if you arrive in Santiago during a busy season you have a better chance of a group paying for it.
This thread has more information
@robindysard, there are four pilgrim masses every day and of these, mass at 9:30, 12:00 and 19:30 are transmitted online when there isn’t a technical problem. For a while, I followed it quite often. When the Botafumeiro swings, it is usually at the 12:00 or 19:30 mass, rarely at 9:30 but it happens.I've been on several pilgrimages and I know they often have private masses but it's worth a shot!
I happened to switch it on and caught the moment where the priest (it is actually the former archbishop at today's midday mass) listed some pilgrims - such as desde Ribadeo, peregrinos de Malaga - and as usual without saying their names. Then he said the names of two (I think) deceased persons who will be included in prayer today. Also, one of their cantors is present which is not always the case. The lesson of the day (or some other text, I am no longer certain now) is read by an elderly Spanish couple who are well dressed - not in Camino pilgrim outfit.
This may help youHi,
I could not find a thread on this so forgive me if this has been asked in the past. Just a few questions:
1) We already have Credentials from books we've bought. So if starting at Porto, we need to go into the Cathedral to get our first stamp, correct? Can anyone tell me the name of the Cathedral? I'd like to check hours as we start walking on a Saturday.
2) In Santiago, is it best to plan nothing else the morning you get in line to get your Compostela? I've heard you check in and then are given a time to return. Is this usually 1-2 hours later? I've read morning is best before 10.
3) I have read that you go to the International Pilgrim's Reception Center and they are open 9-7 daily. Is there anything else helpful to know? Thank you!
I am fairly certain that the Botafumeiro will swing
It hasn’t swung for me each occasion I’ve arrived into Santiago. One day…..Well, it did not swing at the end. I am not always right.
But one should bear in mind that the misa del peregrino is for all who come to the tomb of the Apostle and not just for the peregrin@s who have walked a number of kilometres on a Camino de Santiago. Buen Camino to all.
Oh, thank you; that looks very thorough!This may help you
How to get a Compostela after walking the Camino de Santiago
Follow these details to find out how you get your Camino Compostela after walking The Camino de pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela.followtheyellowshell.com
The registration form doesn't have anything for coming from Arles, France, on the Via Tolosalana. It only has names of caminos in Spain/Portugal. How can I register? Or do I need to, ony show up and get a ticket for later in the day?It's the Se Cathedral in Porto. It's not required to get a stamp there, but it's nice to start there.
In past years the process too much longer. Nowadays you pre-register for the Compostela and it shouldn't take more than half an hour.
Here's the link to register.
Yes, the hours are 9 - 7. Information on this Google Maps link:
Pilgrim's Reception Office · Rúa das Carretas, 33, 15705 Santiago de Compostela, A Coruña, Spain
âââââ · Tourist information centermaps.app.goo.gl
There is no registration necessary, or even possible, when you begin your Camino.The registration form doesn't have anything for coming from Arles, France, on the Via Tolosalana. It only has names of caminos in Spain/Portugal. How can I register? Or do I need to, ony show up and get a ticket for later in the day?
Thanks.
I think that @Fred Gaudet was referring to the online form to register for s Compostela.There is no registration necessary, or even possible, when you begin your Camino.
@Fred Gaudet, I am not sure what your question is.The registration form doesn't have anything for coming from Arles, France, on the Via Tolosalana. It only has names of caminos in Spain/Portugal. How can I register? Or do I need to, ony show up and get a ticket for later in the day?
I agree. To me the credential is most important/impressive. It always looks better if it's filled up! I used to be too lazy to bother with 2 stamps the last 100k...never refused... now it's like an excuse to get another coffee...It isn't hard and fast. The volunteers can exercise some discretion. But if receiving a Compostela is important then it makes little sense to disregard the rules and risk being refused.
I was trying to figure that out, but went to the conclusion that his question was related to his start in Oporto. But he now has an answer to both possibillities.
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