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Well, the Nordic countries (Finland, Norway, Denmark, Iceland) agreed today to allow free travel between them. The exception is Sweden: No travel to and from that country, due to it being one of the worst hit countries in the world per capita, because of not having tried to shut it down. The same will go for many other countries, like US, Brazil, etc. You should also bear in mind that the situation can change in a blink: A new outburst in a country, and it will be excluded and have to go into lockdown again. This is not over. This is not a game: It is a matter of life and death. Personally for us, any travel (for me) to Spain, or us, to Crete (Greece) is out of the question as per now. Next year, if it is safe.Though European borders are opening to some, those of us in the US will likely have a longer wait. My friends here at home all think I am an expert on this topic for some reason, but I had to go to google just like everyone else. This was a recent and seemingly reliable assessment. If you have better info, let me know.
Hope others will post because the different country regulations combine to create a constantly shifting landscape.
How to Travel to Europe from the U.S. Right Now
France is the latest European country to restrict travel for unvaccinated Americans.www.afar.com
Buen camino, Laurie
But not in Greece where the government will pay for your 2 weeks quarantine if get sick on Greece soil. But it will still be a quarantine, no beach, no cocktail bars in the evening etc...
Edit: Have extra money ready for a long stay if you're quarantened somewhere unsafe. It can be costly. Travel insurance won't cover it, for sure.
This is easily the most complete and most accurate overview over the confusing and ever changing situation for people trying to inform themselves about the current rules for crossing external or internal borders in Europe that I have seen lately. If they continue to update this article it deserves to be bookmarked.How to Travel to Europe from the U.S. Right Now
France is the latest European country to restrict travel for unvaccinated Americans.www.afar.com
AT 65 most of us in the USA go onto medicare and have supplemental insurance. Because of no or very limited out of country insurance coverage on medicare, private insurance is necessary unless one self-insures. With regard to medical care abroad, most policies, IF they would even cover USA citizens for COVID 19 limit coverage for upper ages is usually $50,000.
So for me, personally, to consider going without a proven vaccine or verified theraputic is a non-starter. I live in hope of that time....
It is always good to check.
Supplemental Medicare plans can be widely varied. Mine will cover all costs that are normally covered when traveling domestically or internationally. They even have a wallet card with the contact number to use in such out of area travel. What is too bad, is that plans vary by area of residence, and good plans may not be available in other states or even in all counties within a given State.
Agree! My 20 percent supplemental plan comes from my former employer. The primary coverage is from traditional medicare. My former employer also covers most of the cost of the entire medicare plan so changing is not an option for me.
Though European borders are opening to some, those of us in the US will likely have a longer wait. My friends here at home all think I am an expert on this topic for some reason, but I had to go to google just like everyone else. This was a recent and seemingly reliable assessment. If you have better info, let me know.
Hope others will post because the different country regulations combine to create a constantly shifting landscape.
Perhaps because of things like the unreliability of those tests?It seems most European countries are requiring a 14 day quarantine but do not offer the "pre-travel molecular-based test for SARS-CoV2" or the "StrataCLEAR option."
From Australia there is a travel ban in place on International travel out of Australia. - with no date given yet of when it will be lifted.
Regardless of official rules re movement of people across continents aimed at boosting economies, we must consider the ethics of travel in a Covid infested world. This virus will not go away for a long time, if ever. I am concerned that pilgrim like travel styles are risky business. The potential for carrying the virus along the trails and infecting locals and other pilgrims, who then disperse all over the world and take it home is huge. More responsible travel would involve staying in one place, observing social distancing and do day walks. I know this is not what we want to hear...but it is a reality. I am longing to be back on pilgrim trails, but not under Covid conditions.Though European borders are opening to some, those of us in the US will likely have a longer wait. My friends here at home all think I am an expert on this topic for some reason, but I had to go to google just like everyone else. This was a recent and seemingly reliable assessment. If you have better info, let me know.
Hope others will post because the different country regulations combine to create a constantly shifting landscape.
How to Travel to Europe from the U.S. Right Now
France is the latest European country to restrict travel for unvaccinated Americans.www.afar.com
Buen camino, Laurie
Regardless of official rules re movement of people across continents aimed at boosting economies, we must consider the ethics of travel in a Covid infested world. This virus will not go away for a long time, if ever. I am concerned that pilgrim like travel styles are risky business. The potential for carrying the virus along the trails and infecting locals and other pilgrims, who then disperse all over the world and take it home is huge. More responsible travel would involve staying in one place, observing social distancing and do day walks. I know this is not what we want to hear...but it is a reality. I am longing to be back on pilgrim trails, but not under Covid conditions.
Most of the European quarantines were temporary, or are scheduled to be ended. They were put in place, as exceptions, for those traveling when the Border Lockdowns were first implemented: business, emergencies, family, etc.Alaska has enacted a policy for those who want to visit. Often this may be only for a 3-5 day fishing trip so a 14 day quarantine is impractical. One fishing group I have used posted this info
Updates on the 2020 Season: June 8th, 2020 - Angling Unlimited
Our season began on Sunday the 7th of June with 4 boats out. Kings, halibut, rockfish, and a few lingcod made it into the catches. The weather was slightly unsettled...anglingunlimited.com
You can read the Alaska Mandate 10 if you follow the link in the posting.
It seems most European countries are requiring a 14 day quarantine but do not offer the "pre-travel molecular-based test for SARS-CoV2" or the "StrataCLEAR option."
I do understand that a negative test result can be used, however it really is immunity to covid-19 that is desired, immunity by either a survival from this disease or a vaccination that insures and guarantees immunity from it. A negative test in my opinion is just a time snapshot. Its significance is not prophylactic.It will help when the EU travel advisories are released, defining what marker a Nation needs to meet before their citizens are allowed to enter into the travel areas. (New diagnosed COVID-19 cases must be below ____ per million, over a given time period.)
A factor that might open things up a bit faster, is if quick testing is required at least 72 hours before boarding a flight.
I do understand that a negative test result can be used, however it really is immunity to covid-19 that is desired, immunity by either a survival from this disease or a vaccination that insures and guarantees immunity from it. A negative test in my opinion is just a time snapshot. Its significance is not prophylactic.
Back to being imprisoned in the colonies. Even if other countries open we can't get outFrom Australia there is a travel ban in place on International travel out of Australia. - with no date given yet of when it will be lifted. Linked info refers to citizens and non citizens.
Department of Home Affairs Website
Home Affairs brings together Australia's federal law enforcement, national and transport security, criminal justice, emergency management, multicultural affairs, settlement services and immigration and border-related functions, working together to keep Australia safe.covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au
Global COVID-19 Health Advisory
COVID-19 remains a global health risk. You need to take special care when travelling.www.smartraveller.gov.au
I hadn't realised this until I read it here on the forum. Are there any other countries (of those widely "represented" by the forum members) who don't allow their nationals or their residents to leave their country in connection with Covid-19?we can't get out
No one stops you from leaving. You just need to quarantine when you come back home. However, I do wonder why someone from NZ or Australia would want to leave.I hadn't realised this until I read it here on the forum. Are there any other countries (of those widely "represented" by the forum members) who don't allow their nationals or their residents to leave their country in connection with Covid-19?
No one stops you from leaving. You just need to quarantine when you come back home.
Website Australian Government / Department of Home Affairs: If you are an Australian citizen or a permanent resident you cannot leave Australia due to COVID-19 restrictions unless you have an exemption. You can apply online but you must meet at least one of the following: [...]No one stops you from leaving.
I am sorry, I forgot that Australia is still under Covid-19 lockdown restrictions.Website Australian Government / Department of Home Affairs: If you are an Australian citizen or a permanent resident you cannot leave Australia due to COVID-19 restrictions unless you have an exemption. You can apply online but you must meet at least one of the following: [...]
I'm not interested in starting a discussion about why people want to leave or whether they should leave or not or anything of the sort. I was just expressing my surprise because departure travel restrictions and having to request a formal exemption to be allowed to travel abroad is not something I am familiar with, based on my own life experience.
There is a general policy of reciprocity that usually gets applied to border controls. That is, if country A allows country B's citizens to enter then country B allows country A's citizens to enter on the same terms. Similarly if country A applies restrictions on country B's citizens then country B reciprocates.I believe I read that as long as the US is closed to Portugal Citizens, Portugal is closed to US residents. Not sure if other European countries have the same policy.
I know! Serves us right for emigrating in the first place. Having said that, for now I am utterly grateful to be stuck in NZ, which has so far avoided the Covid carnage through going hard and going early into lockdown.Back to being imprisoned in the colonies. Even if other countries open we can't get out
I laugh - but it is true! Being imprisoned in the colonies is how it totally feels! I want to be a responsible pilgrim, but I really do want to Camino this summer too!Back to being imprisoned in the colonies. Even if other countries open we can't get out
I know! I discovered 31 Dept of Conservation tracks near Rotorua, so I am doing these over the next few months. My husband bought me a tent for my birthday and I have booked to walk the Queen Charlotte, Heaphy and Abel Tasman tracks in the South Island of NZ, followed by cycling the Hauraki Rail Trail. Not really like the Camino trails, as they are all just 4 day hikes and on 2 of them, you have to carry food....I am in for an adjustment, me thinks.I laugh - but it is true! Being imprisoned in the colonies is how it totally feels! I want to be a responsible pilgrim, but I really do want to Camino this summer too!
I loved the Heaphy when I did it with two mates. I will wait until it stops raining before looking at other tracks.I know! I discovered 31 Dept of Conservation tracks near Rotorua, so I am doing these over the next few months. My husband bought me a tent for my birthday and I have booked to walk the Queen Charlotte, Heaphy and Abel Tasman tracks in the South Island of NZ, followed by cycling the Hauraki Rail Trail. Not really like the Camino trails, as they are all just 4 day hikes and on 2 of them, you have to carry food....I am in for an adjustment, me thinks.
Same here, except we didn’t lockdown early enough and had many more deaths as a result... and still... will suffer economic collapse. WoohooI know! Serves us right for emigrating in the first place. Having said that, for now I am utterly grateful to be stuck in NZ, which has so far avoided the Covid carnage through going hard and going early into lockdown.
We do face major job losses and economic downturn though, as we heavily rely on tourism.
totally agree Australia and NZ are the best places to be stuck in. In South Australia we have been essentially covert free for a while now as has the Northern Territory, Western Australia and New Zealand. I was to be walking from Canterbury to Rome now but may look at walking the Arles route for whenever travel becomes possible and we are welcome to return to Europe.I laugh - but it is true! Being imprisoned in the colonies is how it totally feels! I want to be a responsible pilgrim, but I really do want to Camino this summer too!
Smart traveller flatly states that the travel ban is "indefinite"Getting away from the thread topic of travel from the US to Europe, but Australia's travel ban was quietly extended today to September 17:
Government extends travel ban to mid-September (Sky News)
Thank you Laurie. That is a very important distinction.There has been a lot of speculation about whether travel insurance will cover people if they get covid abroad. I have an annual global travel policy with United Health Care, which I will probably not use this year, but I called to see what the coverage was with regard to covid, just for the heck of it. The customer service person I spoke with told me there is a lot of misunderstanding on the effect of a pandemic on coverage. He told me that as far as medical coverage goes, every UHC global travel policy’s coverage for medical expenses and evacuation extends to illness from covid. What might be excluded is trip cancellation coverage. I don’t ever include trip cancellation insurance in my policy, so I didn’t pursue it.
Anyway, just to suggest that people might want to get clear advice from their own travel insurance companies and not assume one way or the other.
Buen camino, Laurie
Thanks for that link. Very helpful.The European Union has launched a Re-Open EU website with information on entry restrictions for every EU country.
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