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Since I've left, I've dreamed of myself walking the Camino every night. I plan on going back next year - having learned from my mistakes.
Jet lag, culture shock, lack of sleep, unfamiliarity - they all can make us irrational prisoners.
Ending a Camino prematurely is a matter of interpretation. What does prematurely mean? Does it mean leaving the Camino before you reach Santiago, or ending it before you are ready to end it? The importance of the Camino experience is the journey, especially the internal journey, so actually reaching a prescribed physical destination is not necessarily the point of completion of the inner journey.
This is my first post. I have been reading this forum and intensely researching the Camino de Santiago for a few years now. I am very interested in walking the camino for about three weeks starting in Le Puy in June 2015. I am wondering what are the reasons some people end their walks prematurely? I would appreciate specific examples if you yourself stopped your walk or if you know of others who stopped.
I am a sort of "parlor" person or an "indoors girl" (acutally I'm a single woman in my 60's). I have never backpacked or hiked in my life, but I am keenly interested in doing this. I have this mental picture of myself standing in front of a Le Puy hotel one morning in June with my backpack on, pacer poles in hand, vaselined feet with inner liners and merino socks in my well-fitting, broken in, lightweight hiking shoes wondering what in the hell am I doing. Thank you.
Since I've left, I've dreamed of myself walking the Camino every night. I plan on going back next year - having learned from my mistakes.
Wow, thank you everyone! This is so encouraging and helpful. I have a year to shape up (I've already started). A young man I know wants to come along, but I am making it very clear to him that we are likely to go at different speeds and have different requirements. I have a strong sense that I should not rush this walk due to my untested body. I also like to eat well and often. And I am curious about my surroundings and like to investigate. It might be best if I do this alone, although he is charming and fun.
Let me add that my introduction to the Camino de Santiago was a chance reading of an article in an old Gourmet Magazine. I collect cookbooks and cooking magazines and happened upon an article by Herb McGrew, a psychiatrist from California, in the September 1990 issue. He and a pilot, an artist, and a vineyard owner started their camino in Le Puy and walked for three weeks. They finished the camino in four yearly vacations. I had to rifle through hundreds of magazines and found all four articles (Gourmet, May 1991, August 1992, and April 1996)! It was a real Eureka! moment for me. Gourmet is no longer in publication, but if anyone can get these articles I highly recommend that you do. They are wonderful, charming accounts of their caminos. I often find old Gourmets at book fairs and resale shops. He could very well be a member on this site, and it would be fantastic if he would give the rights to re-publication in some form.
Keep the answers coming. Thank you.
Hiya train on hard surface eg roads pavements (sidewalks) I'm 54 my husband is 64 and we swear the reason we never got one single blister is because we done this, hardening up the feet on the worst terrain puts you in good stead for any surface on the camino and there's a lot of solid surface to walk , don't worry about the distances the adrenaline and people you meet will keep you going as long as your feet are ok ,backpack keep it light listen to the experts which say no more than 10% of your body weight without food and water no need to carry litres and litres of water there are loads of places everywhere to fill up don't be tempted to put in unnecessary items into your pack we meet lots of people who had thrown things away posted on ect get the right gear doesn't have to be expensive cheaper stuff works just as well ...well it did for us lol the only thing we would do different is to get a good poncho for Galicia area we ended up buying those rubbish 5euro ponchos that didn't last two days we did eventually buy some good one 3 days before Santiago !! Bit late then , anyway last but not least have the most wonderful time it's truly magical and more than you can Imagine ..Buen CaminoThis is my first post. I have been reading this forum and intensely researching the Camino de Santiago for a few years now. I am very interested in walking the camino for about three weeks starting in Le Puy in June 2015. I am wondering what are the reasons some people end their walks prematurely? I would appreciate specific examples if you yourself stopped your walk or if you know of others who stopped.
I am a sort of "parlor" person or an "indoors girl" (acutally I'm a single woman in my 60's). I have never backpacked or hiked in my life, but I am keenly interested in doing this. I have this mental picture of myself standing in front of a Le Puy hotel one morning in June with my backpack on, pacer poles in hand, vaselined feet with inner liners and merino socks in my well-fitting, broken in, lightweight hiking shoes wondering what in the hell am I doing. Thank you.
What are the symptoms of heatstroke? What was happening with your body that you didn't listen to? Thanks for your input.My first Camino in 2011, the Frances, went without any problems.
My second one...the planned Ingles in 2012 I had to postpone due to my father's death.
In 2013 I walked part of the Ebro Camino and then part of Frances. A combination of infected toenail, heavy storms on the Camino del Ebro and too much crowd on the Frances made my state of mind less flexible. Felt down and wasn't feeling any good vibe at all. So I did quit and stayed for some days in Spain hanging out the tourist.
Last year I walked the Ingles but had to stop the last day before Santiago due to minor heatstroke...This happens when you don't listen to your body ;-)
Must say I don't feel bad about having to stop : if the Camino has learned me anything then it is the fact that everything happens for a reason.
That is exactly what I saw. Both cases were groups of 3 friends, 2 being uber fit, and 1 coming along on a lark. In both cases the less prepared one suffered dreadfully trying to maintain the speed and distance set by the other two until the legs/feet couldn't go anymore.The few pilgrims I saw quit the Camino early did so due to foot/leg injuries. Seems like these were due to poor choice of footwear, or walking too far everyday and too fast, or a combination of all. You got to know your limitations. The wear and tear is cumulative.
Yeah, you got to drink water, especially if you do a Camino during the summer. I probably on average drank at least 4-6 liters of water a day. I would drink one liter before I left the albergue in the morning. You are more dehydrated when you wake up than you think. Also coffee is a diuretic. I love my coffee in the morning, but I also know I need to compensate for drinking it by drinking additional water. If your urine is not clear, you are dehydrated.Hi S. Brown,
In my case it was a red face and dry skin , headache and dizziness and wanting to vomit. So drink and drink water ...and keep drinking water!
The people at ER at one of SdC 's hospitals are brilliant but I felt really stupid when I was there.
S. Brown -- I did not have to stop my Camino so I can't give you examples, but I write to encourage you to just DO IT! I am like you. I have never, never been a walker in the past. I haven't been much of an outdoors person. And I have had a visceral dislike of backpacking after a bad experience backpacking with Girl Scouts when I was in high school.This is my first post. I have been reading this forum and intensely researching the Camino de Santiago for a few years now. I am very interested in walking the camino for about three weeks starting in Le Puy in June 2015. I am wondering what are the reasons some people end their walks prematurely? I would appreciate specific examples if you yourself stopped your walk or if you know of others who stopped.
I am a sort of "parlor" person or an "indoors girl" (acutally I'm a single woman in my 60's). I have never backpacked or hiked in my life, but I am keenly interested in doing this. I have this mental picture of myself standing in front of a Le Puy hotel one morning in June with my backpack on, pacer poles in hand, vaselined feet with inner liners and merino socks in my well-fitting, broken in, lightweight hiking shoes wondering what in the hell am I doing. Thank you.
Hey Lise,Hey KiwiBee
I would be interested in hearing how you get on walking in February. Being a North Island Kiwi I dont have any experience walking in Winter (snow) conditions.
My two Camino's have been in Aug/Sept. I never had rain and it was hot. I am wanting to do my next in Feb/March.
Best wishes for your next Camino!
Kia Kaha!!!
P.S Totally understand about the jet lag. Took me three days to get over mine.
Thanks KiwiBee. This is a wealth of good information.I did not complete my first attempt.
My goal had been to do the whole Camino in one go before I was 50. I decided to go and see my sister in the UK last year and discovered that her husband was on holiday the same week I arrived. So I suggested she leave the kids and join me and we could walk the 112 kms from Sarria to Santiago in the week she had free. I did LOTS of practice walking before I went. I am very lazy when it comes to physically exerting myself!
I flew straight from New Zealand to London, a 40 hour trip, stayed the night in London, then was supposed to fly to Spain at 8am the next morning. The flight was delayed so we spent the whole day in the airport and didn't get to Spain until 6pm. We then stayed the night somewhere near Santiago and made our way to Sarria the next day.
I walked about 22 kms the first day, and then 21 kms the second day. I was totally and utterly exhausted. In hindsight (always 20/20 vision!) I should have allowed myself even one day to just stop, relax, and get over some of the jetlag, but preferably two or three days! I have never known exhaustion like it. But we had a very tight time limit that had just been cut short by a day.
By day three I realised I could not do it in the time we had left, (and didn't even care if I finished or not) so we walked a couple more days at a gentle pace, then caught a bus to Santiago. Also at this point, I insisted my sister walk ahead of me. She is naturally more athletic than I am, is taller than me with a longer stride, and wasn't at all jetlagged. This made a HUGE difference to me. Even though she tried to walk at my pace, I knew I was speeding up to try and match her, which really wasn't doing me any good! She would walk a couple of kms and then sit and wait for me.
One thing I did right last time was to do lots of walking beforehand on tarseal surfaces in the shoes I was going to wear. I wore good sneakers which I found perfect for the terrain. Even still, my feet bones really hurt at the end of each day! And aside from all the pain and exhaustion, I did have so much fun with my sister every time we met up or stopped for the day. My sister lost the skin on the bottoms of both feet not long after getting back!
So I'm going back to finish my Camino in Feb and really looking forward to it! I'm having FIVE days in the UK beforehand this time, so should be well acclimatised this time. And I'm doing it on my own, in my own time. Buen Camino!!
ETA: We left from Sarria not Lugo sorry.
Someone told me...your Camino starts the day you hear about it..
Don't give up on this. I do think many people don't take enough time at the start to get oriented. Jet lag, culture shock, lack of sleep, unfamiliarity - they all can make us irrational prisoners. We now take a stopover somewhere along the long plane trip from Australia, and spent a night or two in our European entry port in a pre-booked hotel, then take a leisurely train trip to our walking start, and a short first day of sightseeing and walking, usually with accommodation booked for that first night. Maybe it is just age but I like to ease into things these days.
When I started I had a good friend walking with me. He knew best. He lasted a week! His bag was full of un-necessary items and it weighed 4kg more than mine. We trained together for 6 months until the last month when I was away working and walking everyday for up to an hour morning and evening. He sat at home! Enough said. Enjoy your Camino. I will be back again in July without a companion. I know I will never be alone.This is my first post. I have been reading this forum and intensely researching the Camino de Santiago for a few years now. I am very interested in walking the camino for about three weeks starting in Le Puy in June 2015. I am wondering what are the reasons some people end their walks prematurely? I would appreciate specific examples if you yourself stopped your walk or if you know of others who stopped.
I am a sort of "parlor" person or an "indoors girl" (acutally I'm a single woman in my 60's). I have never backpacked or hiked in my life, but I am keenly interested in doing this. I have this mental picture of myself standing in front of a Le Puy hotel one morning in June with my backpack on, pacer poles in hand, vaselined feet with inner liners and merino socks in my well-fitting, broken in, lightweight hiking shoes wondering what in the hell am I doing. Thank you.
You will wonder that many times before you finish but finish you will. I started on 18th March 2013 from Pamplona. In my 60's, never backpacked, 35 years behind a desk getting fat and lazy. On my first day I was never so shattered in my entire life, it was physically, the toughest day of my life. But I made it to Castrojeriz. On Holy Thursday, the constant rain started to sap my will to go on. On Good Friday the deep clinging mud of the Meseta really drained me and then the heaviest rain I ever walked in soaked me to the skin. My waterproof jacket did not do the job. I had sent my extra clothes home with my son when he left me at Burgos so I only had one set of dry ones. The forecast for next day was more of the same so I reckoned I would be walking in wet clothes for a while. Meanwhile at home in Belfast my wife and daughter were snowed in with the worst weather since 1963 with no heating or electricity. My will to go on was completely gone so I headed back to Burgos, on to Madrid and flew home. My marvellous wife told me to forget going back to finish the following year and sent me back to Spain that September and I did then finish it. As an aside, I took the waterproof back to the store, got a refund and bought a better one which was just as well. In Galicia one day it rained so bad it made the other days seem sunny, in fact there was a guy called Noah trying to borrow a hammer and nailsThis is my first post. I have been reading this forum and intensely researching the Camino de Santiago for a few years now. I am very interested in walking the camino for about three weeks starting in Le Puy in June 2015. I am wondering what are the reasons some people end their walks prematurely? I would appreciate specific examples if you yourself stopped your walk or if you know of others who stopped.
I am a sort of "parlor" person or an "indoors girl" (acutally I'm a single woman in my 60's). I have never backpacked or hiked in my life, but I am keenly interested in doing this. I have this mental picture of myself standing in front of a Le Puy hotel one morning in June with my backpack on, pacer poles in hand, vaselined feet with inner liners and merino socks in my well-fitting, broken in, lightweight hiking shoes wondering what in the hell am I doing. Thank you.
Someone told me...your Camino starts the day you hear about it..
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Sorry to hear you news Annie G, my sympathy. Your Camino has already started the moment you decide to go. Enjoy your planning and your training. 18 months instead of 18 days just means that you have more time to train and prepare better. I'm sure that your husband will be in your thoughts and by your side throughout your Camino experience. Maybe you could consider having your Compostela dedicated to him? You could also get to Credentials and he could be a closer part of the walk? Buen Camino
Hmmmmmm ....... get two credentials .... maybe? Auto-correct acting up again?......what do you mean by '...get to Credentials...'?
Hmmmmmm ....... get two credentials .... maybe? Auto-correct acting up again?
You can't get two credentials, carried by one person, but you certainly can dedicate your Compostela to another person. Buen Camino and very sorry for your loss @Annie G just the words "when I was informed of my husband's death" makes my heart go out to you. Hugs, SY
When I did my first Camino in 1999 for similar reasons to yours it frankly saved my life/sanity and yes, I did it entirely for myself as the person I had lost was gone and I had to come to grip with that. SY
Yes, two! Not corrective text, just clumsy fingers. You can get a Credential in another's name by getting a blank one and filling in their details. I found that not only were people happy to stamp the two, but also delighted with the idea when doing so. The one option of course is to get your's stamped at night and the other during the day. Obviously this Credential plays no part in the Compostela awarding in the Pilgrim's Office. There you just present your own Credential and ask that your walk (which is recorded in your name) be dedicated to your husband. They then add a note that it is on his behalf and his name. It was only a suggestion, but it is what I did for my still born grandson Jakob. It was for both myself and his parents a statement of his presence in our lives.
This is my first post. I have been reading this forum and intensely researching the Camino de Santiago for a few years now. I am very interested in walking the camino for about three weeks starting in Le Puy in June 2015. I am wondering what are the reasons some people end their walks prematurely? I would appreciate specific examples if you yourself stopped your walk or if you know of others who stopped.
I am a sort of "parlor" person or an "indoors girl" (acutally I'm a single woman in my 60's). I have never backpacked or hiked in my life, but I am keenly interested in doing this. I have this mental picture of myself standing in front of a Le Puy hotel one morning in June with my backpack on, pacer poles in hand, vaselined feet with inner liners and merino socks in my well-fitting, broken in, lightweight hiking shoes wondering what in the hell am I doing. Thank you.
Finished my Camino
This is my first post. I have been reading this forum and intensely researching the Camino de Santiago for a few years now. I am very interested in walking the camino for about three weeks starting in Le Puy in June 2015. I am wondering what are the reasons some people end their walks prematurely? I would appreciate specific examples if you yourself stopped your walk or if you know of others who stopped.
I am a sort of "parlor" person or an "indoors girl" (acutally I'm a single woman in my 60's). I have never backpacked or hiked in my life, but I am keenly interested in doing this. I have this mental picture of myself standing in front of a Le Puy hotel one morning in June with my backpack on, pacer poles in hand, vaselined feet with inner liners and merino socks in my well-fitting, broken in, lightweight hiking shoes wondering what in the hell am I doing. Thank you.
What is a good ponchoHiya train on hard surface eg roads pavements (sidewalks) I'm 54 my husband is 64 and we swear the reason we never got one single blister is because we done this, hardening up the feet on the worst terrain puts you in good stead for any surface on the camino and there's a lot of solid surface to walk , don't worry about the distances the adrenaline and people you meet will keep you going as long as your feet are ok ,backpack keep it light listen to the experts which say no more than 10% of your body weight without food and water no need to carry litres and litres of water there are loads of places everywhere to fill up don't be tempted to put in unnecessary items into your pack we meet lots of people who had thrown things away posted on ect get the right gear doesn't have to be expensive cheaper stuff works just as well ...well it did for us lol the only thing we would do different is to get a good poncho for Galicia area we ended up buying those rubbish 5euro ponchos that didn't last two days we did eventually buy some good one 3 days before Santiago !! Bit late then , anyway last but not least have the most wonderful time it's truly magical and more than you can Imagine ..Buen Camino
Thanks so much for asking! My Le Puy camino got cancelled for 2015, but I am now shooting for June 1 2016. On a different note, I have a hurt knee that is responding well to the doctor's prescribed treatment so I'm actually starting all of my self-imposed camino stretching now in order to be in shape for 2016. Here's hoping!So, S.Brown, are you ready?
Altus. You can find them in SJPdP and Pamplona.What is a good poncho
Yeah. Things happen. Don't give up!Thanks so much for asking! My Le Puy camino got cancelled for 2015, but I am now shooting for June 1 2016. On a different note, I have a hurt knee that is responding well to the doctor's prescribed treatment so I'm actually starting all of my self-imposed camino stretching now in order to be in shape for 2016. Here's hoping!
For myself, (walked CF in Oct/Nov 2013), I found the pilgrimage to be 50% physical, 40% mental & the 10% spiritual/undefined. The physical bit got easier after 2 weeks when the body became tuned. However I really believe it's the mental/spiritual part that keeps people going. I saw walkers with really sore knees on the afternoon, yet they were up and walking the next day. That takes a lot of willpower. You'd have to honestly decide what sort of person you are to know if you can do it. Are you a determined person who never quits at most things you do? Or if the going gets tough, do you decide to give up? If you look at the famous explorers of recent times, they were not exceptionally physically ft , but had amazing mental strength and willpower. The camino is a personal challenge, and I would agree with some of the other comments that you walk it at your own pace, and have the odd rest day if you need to. And enjoy it at the same time!This is my first post. I have been reading this forum and intensely researching the Camino de Santiago for a few years now. I am very interested in walking the camino for about three weeks starting in Le Puy in June 2015. I am wondering what are the reasons some people end their walks prematurely? I would appreciate specific examples if you yourself stopped your walk or if you know of others who stopped.
I am a sort of "parlor" person or an "indoors girl" (acutally I'm a single woman in my 60's). I have never backpacked or hiked in my life, but I am keenly interested in doing this. I have this mental picture of myself standing in front of a Le Puy hotel one morning in June with my backpack on, pacer poles in hand, vaselined feet with inner liners and merino socks in my well-fitting, broken in, lightweight hiking shoes wondering what in the hell am I doing. Thank you.
Personally, I think you can be both. A pilgrimage is an optional activity. You can quit anytime you want, for a few minutes, for a few hours, for a few days, or forever. It can be like stopping eating when you are full, and you do not beat yourself up over THAT. Go. Stop. One more step. They are all valid choices. Anyone feeling driven to keep going past all reasonable discomfort should examine whether they are really doing it for themselves. Many times the drive is actually coming from outside, and that is not good.Are you a determined person who never quits at most things you do? Or if the going gets tough, do you decide to give up?
Mysticl, I am sorry to hear this! I can remember at least two transatlantic flights where I got sick "right off the plane," including my last trip. It is no fun. On one trip to Paris I went to sleep in my hotel one morning and woke up the next day! It took me a few seconds to know where I was or what day it was! I remember that trip as one where I was in a feverish delirium for the first week. I am currently recovering (week 7) of "acute bronchitis and respiratory infection." I am still hacking. The doctor said she was seeing a lot of it, and I know of two people who recently had it and had relapses. See a doctor when you get home. I was given five prescriptions!I am on the Camino now but heading home due to illness. I caught a cold right off the plane but had a week before I was to walk and I thought I was over it when I finally started in St Jean on May 5. The walk up to Orrison however must have taken a lot more energy than my body had to give and the next day I felt that I needed to take a taxi to Roncesvalles where we rested for 2 days before continuing ... But my energy levels stayed low and while I was able to walk I found myself much more fatigued at the end of even a very short day ... 5-10 km ... Than I should be. I am used to walking, with hills up to 8 km a day back home no problem ...so my tiredness was unusual. We continued to take it easy but my cold came back after about a week of walking, despite several attempts to rest a couple days along the way ... In Pamplona and elsewhere .... Eventually it finally blossomed into either walking pneumonia or at the very least severe bronchitis ... still we would walk the very shortest sections moving ahead as I was able but stopping early each day ... Today, even though I think I am finally getting over the worst of my cough, I have decided I will need at least a week maybe two. Before I would be strong enough to continue so we are heading on by bus to Santiago to retrieve the parcels we sent to Ivan for safekeeping ... And then we head home ...
With all that I have NO regrets ... We had a wonderful time, my illness notwithstanding. Because of my cough we stayed mostly in private rooms however, not wanting to expose anyone else to my germs and night time hacking. But shared many a pilgrim dinner and met many lovely people. We are already talking about how we will tackle our return visitalso because of our somewhat forced slow walk we also got to stay in many wonderful villages along the way that we otherwise would have passed by ... We rarely passed through anywhere without stopping .... Not our original plan but it gave us a lot of time to explore and smell the roses ... As they say
That someone was correct, at least in my case. Doing mine in stages and always thinking about the next one.Someone told me...your Camino starts the day you hear about it..
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My husband and I walked part of the Camino together in 2015. We hit problems pretty quickly as we both had different expectations that we didn’t realize we had before we left. I like to walk quickly, ponder, and talk to God. He wanted to walk slowly and take pictures constantly which drove me nuts. Lol. I suggest if you do walk together that you discuss up front what you both want to get out of your Camino. If your expectations are very different it may be best you walk alone and catch up at a designated spot. Buen Camino!Wow, thank you everyone! This is so encouraging and helpful. I have a year to shape up (I've already started). A young man I know wants to come along, but I am making it very clear to him that we are likely to go at different speeds and have different requirements. I have a strong sense that I should not rush this walk due to my untested body. I also like to eat well and often. And I am curious about my surroundings and like to investigate. It might be best if I do this alone, although he is charming and fun.
Let me add that my introduction to the Camino de Santiago was a chance reading of an article in an old Gourmet Magazine. I collect cookbooks and cooking magazines and happened upon an article by Herb McGrew, a psychiatrist from California, in the September 1990 issue. He and a pilot, an artist, and a vineyard owner started their camino in Le Puy and walked for three weeks. They finished the camino in four yearly vacations. I had to rifle through hundreds of magazines and found all four articles (Gourmet, May 1991, August 1992, and April 1996)! It was a real Eureka! moment for me. Gourmet is no longer in publication, but if anyone can get these articles I highly recommend that you do. They are wonderful, charming accounts of their caminos. I often find old Gourmets at book fairs and resale shops. He could very well be a member on this site, and it would be fantastic if he would give the rights to re-publication in some form.
Keep the answers coming. Thank you.
Join the clan lady! I've been doing Camino since 2003 and am still awaiting enlightenmentThis is my first post. I have been reading this forum and intensely researching the Camino de Santiago for a few years now. I am very interested in walking the camino for about three weeks starting in Le Puy in June 2015. I am wondering what are the reasons some people end their walks prematurely? I would appreciate specific examples if you yourself stopped your walk or if you know of others who stopped.
I am a sort of "parlor" person or an "indoors girl" (acutally I'm a single woman in my 60's). I have never backpacked or hiked in my life, but I am keenly interested in doing this. I have this mental picture of myself standing in front of a Le Puy hotel one morning in June with my backpack on, pacer poles in hand, vaselined feet with inner liners and merino socks in my well-fitting, broken in, lightweight hiking shoes wondering what in the hell am I doing. Thank you.
Wind rain or no privicyInspiration without preparation often results in frustration.
Train to get your body in shape (you'll probably benefit more form a solid base from daily walking more than you need long distances). Endurance and distance will grow if you take it easy in the early stages. Don't avoid bad weather during training; it won't avoid you on the Camino.
Make sure you know your equipment. Shoes/boots and pack must be properly fit. Break them all in during your practice hikes. Know exactly why you are taking each item (often we pack our fears, hedging against all kinds of unlikely occurrences, though prudence remains necessary) and pack only what you truly need. Spend time on the forum and you'll see a lot of opinions, advice, and disputes on various types of equipment. Make your own judgement and learn from the success/failure (better during practice, but some lessons will only be learned along the way). In a pinch, you can adjust gear (leave behind/ship forward/replace) along the way.
The camino is all about adapting to the conditions you face, not the ones you planned to face. Therefore, spend time learning the route using the forum and good guidebooks. Make your plans, but keep them flexible because you'll have a better understanding of the route and your options when faced with a condition you didn't plan for initially.
Mental toughness counts for a lot, especially when things happen that might make another person leave when they really didn't need to.
I just noticed this was back in 2014. Did you go with your man friend in the end S Brown?
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