SYates
Camino Fossil AD 1999, now living in Santiago de C
- Time of past OR future Camino
- First: Camino Francés 1999
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Last: Santiago - Muxia 2019
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That is not what is relevant, and would completely miss the point of using the FSO approach.@dougfitz ... but minus the food and water, as they are variable during the day
That is not what is relevant, and would completely miss the point of using the FSO approach.
The measure you are talking about is more commonly called the Total Base Weight (TBW), and comprises the Base Pack Weight and the weight of everything being worn or carried except consumables.If you add food and water to a packing list for the Camino de Santiago you either would just add an average "1l water and 300g snacks" or add a random amount "1-4l water and 300-1000g food" as it changes from stage to stage. For example on the section between Carrion to Calzadilla I will take more water and snacks as for the section between Belorado and Villafranca. I think FSO without water and snacks but with the respective containers included works fine for the Camino and for getting feedback on ones packing list here on the forum. For expedition-style hikes it is another kettle of fish and your approach should be used. Buen Camino, SY
Just added TSA ...
Would it be possible to make it clear that the TSA is a US organisation, and only one of the national or pan-national aviation safety authorities that have the common purpose of making air-travel safe. Amusing as the tongue in cheek description of their role is, my humourless side thinks it rather denigrates the broader beneficial impact these organisations have had on aviation safety.TSA - Transportation Security Administration - Those that refuse to let you take more than 100ml of shampoo and/or your walking poles on board of a civilian aircraft ;-)
the Total Base Weight (TBW), and comprises the Base Pack Weight and the weight of everything being worn or carried except consumables.
Would it be possible to make it clear that the TSA is a US organisation, and only one of the national or pan-national aviation safety authorities that have the common purpose of making air-travel safe. Amusing as the tongue in cheek description of their role is, my humourless side thinks it rather denigrates the broader beneficial impact these organisations have had on aviation safety.
HYOH Hike Your Own Hike
As I understand/interpret it could mean:
Go at your own pace
Don't let other people's experiences determine or affect yours
For those with a broader interest in the meanings of an acronym, abbreviation or initialization, the site http://www.acronymfinder.com/ is a great resource. A little research there show how specialised this forum is in its language. For example, SDC returns 165 discreet meanings, none of them anything to do with Santiago, ...
Yeah, smart one for newbies!Just added SNCF, ALSA and RENFE ;-) BC SY
I put this in here because I feel it is most useful for new members, if I am wrong dear mods, please move it ;-)
I just realise that we use quite a few abbreviations on this forum, some specific, some not specific to the Camino. I also noted that some newer members are a bit shy to ask what we mean with them, so I compiled this little list from the top of my head, feel free to add to it and Buen Camino, SY
PS I decided, for better overview, to add the abbreviations mentioned in the follow-up posts to the first post. So no, I didn't come up with the whole list ...
Camino Specific
- SJPdP/SJPP - Saint Jean Pied de Port (a popular starting place in France)
- SDC/SdC - Santiago de Compostela
- CdN - Camino(s) del Norte
- MMDD - Miam Miam DoDo (a French Camino guide series concentrating on the bare essential composed of the informal words Miam Miam= yummy food and dodo=nighty-night/sleep)
- VdlP - Via de la Plata (Camino from the South of Spain to Santiago)
- CP - Camino Portuguese or Camino Primitivo depending on the sub-forum you are in ;-)
- CF - Camino Francés (The pilgrimage route that comes from SJPdP (Saint Jean Pied de Port) and crosses the Pyrenees and passes through Roncesvalles and Puente la Reina where it joins with the route coming from the Somport pass. Often translated as the French Way it actaully means the Way of the Franks aka those foreigners that come from behind the Pyrenees out of the Frankish Empire ;-)
- CI - Camino Ingles (The English Way, in ye olde times the way taken, predominatly, by English and Irish pilgrims who arrived by ship/boat in A Coruña or Ferrol and walked/rode from there to Santiago).
- TSA - Transportation Security Administration (USA) - Those that refuse to let you take more than 100ml of shampoo and/or your walking poles on board of a civilian aircraft ;-) For a more 'dry' explanation see this post.
- HYOH - Hike Your Own Hike and WYOW - Walk Your Own Way:
Go at your own pace and don't let other people's experiences determine or affect yours.- SNCF - French Railway (website) - useful for researching travel to/near SJPdP.
- RENFE - Spanish Railway (website)
- ALSA - Main, but not only, bus/coach network (website) in Spain.
General
- OP - Original Poster (the person who started a thread)
- ROFL - Rolling Over Floor Laughing
- LOL - Laughing Out Loud
- IMO/IMHO - In My Opinion/In My Humble Opinion (mostly a very strongly defended opinion ;-)
- YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (Meaning this is what I experienced, your experience may be different.)
- FSO - From Skin Out (putting all items you plan to take in one ordered list without distinguishing what you wear and what you carry, without food nor water but with the respective containers included).
- TBW - Total Base Weight, similar to the above, for a different opinion than mine see @dougfitz posts starting here.
- PCB - Post Camino Blues (common pilgrim illness and indication for being infected with the Camino Virus, best treatment is planning your next Camino ;-)
- PM - Private Message (me), also called Conversation on this forum. Just click the name of the person you want to message and click on 'start a conversation'.
- @ - An invisible abbreviation, if you type @+forum name, it converts the forum name into a link to the respective profile page of that member and sends him/her a message/alert that s/he has been mentioned in such and such thread if they have that enabled. F.e. @BShea and @nzPhreadde your contributions have been added to the main post.
- ASAP - As Soon As Possible
- KSO - Keep Straight On (used in guides and way descriptions)
Thanks you so ever much. This is so cool. Thanks to another forum member who showed me the way to this. It is just what I was looking for. Hopefully as more text-type spelling emerges you will up date this...(?) Thanks again..,I put this in here because I feel it is most useful for new members, if I am wrong dear mods, please move it ;-)
I just realise that we use quite a few abbreviations on this forum, some specific, some not specific to the Camino. I also noted that some newer members are a bit shy to ask what we mean with them, so I compiled this little list from the top of my head, feel free to add to it and Buen Camino, SY
PS I decided, for better overview, to add the abbreviations mentioned in the follow-up posts to the first post. So no, I didn't come up with the whole list ...
Camino Specific
- SJPdP/SJPP - Saint Jean Pied de Port (a popular starting place in France)
- SDC/SdC - Santiago de Compostela
- CdN - Camino(s) del Norte
- MMDD - Miam Miam DoDo (a French Camino guide series concentrating on the bare essential composed of the informal words Miam Miam= yummy food and dodo=nighty-night/sleep)
- VdlP - Via de la Plata (Camino from the South of Spain to Santiago)
- CP - Camino Portuguese or Camino Primitivo depending on the sub-forum you are in ;-)
- CF - Camino Francés (The pilgrimage route that comes from SJPdP (Saint Jean Pied de Port) and crosses the Pyrenees and passes through Roncesvalles and Puente la Reina where it joins with the route coming from the Somport pass. Often translated as the French Way it actaully means the Way of the Franks aka those foreigners that come from behind the Pyrenees out of the Frankish Empire ;-)
- CI - Camino Ingles (The English Way, in ye olde times the way taken, predominatly, by English and Irish pilgrims who arrived by ship/boat in A Coruña or Ferrol and walked/rode from there to Santiago).
- TSA - Transportation Security Administration (USA) - Those that refuse to let you take more than 100ml of shampoo and/or your walking poles on board of a civilian aircraft ;-) For a more 'dry' explanation see this post.
- HYOH - Hike Your Own Hike and WYOW - Walk Your Own Way:
Go at your own pace and don't let other people's experiences determine or affect yours.- SNCF - French Railway (website) - useful for researching travel to/near SJPdP.
- RENFE - Spanish Railway (website)
- ALSA - Main, but not only, bus/coach network (website) in Spain.
General
- OP - Original Poster (the person who started a thread)
- ROFL - Rolling Over Floor Laughing
- LOL - Laughing Out Loud
- IMO/IMHO - In My Opinion/In My Humble Opinion (mostly a very strongly defended opinion ;-)
- YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (Meaning this is what I experienced, your experience may be different.)
- FSO - From Skin Out (putting all items you plan to take in one ordered list without distinguishing what you wear and what you carry, without food nor water but with the respective containers included).
- TBW - Total Base Weight, similar to the above, for a different opinion than mine see @dougfitz posts starting here.
- PCB - Post Camino Blues (common pilgrim illness and indication for being infected with the Camino Virus, best treatment is planning your next Camino ;-)
- PM - Private Message (me), also called Conversation on this forum. Just click the name of the person you want to message and click on 'start a conversation'.
- @ - An invisible abbreviation, if you type @+forum name, it converts the forum name into a link to the respective profile page of that member and sends him/her a message/alert that s/he has been mentioned in such and such thread if they have that enabled. F.e. @BShea and @nzPhreadde your contributions have been added to the main post.
- ASAP - As Soon As Possible
- KSO - Keep Straight On (used in guides and way descriptions)
Ohhhh! So thats what KSO means, drove me nuts trying to figure that one. Now i can sleep at night. Lol!I put this in here because I feel it is most useful for new members, if I am wrong dear mods, please move it ;-)
I just realise that we use quite a few abbreviations on this forum, some specific, some not specific to the Camino. I also noted that some newer members are a bit shy to ask what we mean with them, so I compiled this little list from the top of my head, feel free to add to it and Buen Camino, SY
PS I decided, for better overview, to add the abbreviations mentioned in the follow-up posts to the first post. So no, I didn't come up with the whole list ...
Camino Specific
General
- SJPdP/SJPP - Saint Jean Pied de Port (a popular starting place in France)
- SDC/SdC - Santiago de Compostela
- CdN - Camino(s) del Norte
- MMDD - Miam Miam DoDo (a French Camino guide series concentrating on the bare essential composed of the informal words Miam Miam= yummy food and dodo=nighty-night/sleep)
- VdlP - Via de la Plata (Camino from the South of Spain to Santiago)
- CP - Camino Portuguese or Camino Primitivo depending on the sub-forum you are in ;-)
- CF - Camino Francés (The pilgrimage route that comes from SJPdP (Saint Jean Pied de Port) and crosses the Pyrenees and passes through Roncesvalles and Puente la Reina where it joins with the route coming from the Somport pass. Often translated as the French Way it actaully means the Way of the Franks aka those foreigners that come from behind the Pyrenees out of the Frankish Empire ;-)
- CI - Camino Ingles (The English Way, in ye olde times the way taken, predominatly, by English and Irish pilgrims who arrived by ship/boat in A Coruña or Ferrol and walked/rode from there to Santiago).
- TSA - Transportation Security Administration (USA) - Those that refuse to let you take more than 100ml of shampoo and/or your walking poles on board of a civilian aircraft ;-) For a more 'dry' explanation see this post.
- HYOH - Hike Your Own Hike and WYOW - Walk Your Own Way:
Go at your own pace and don't let other people's experiences determine or affect yours.- SNCF - French Railway (website) - useful for researching travel to/near SJPdP.
- RENFE - Spanish Railway (website)
- ALSA - Main, but not only, bus/coach network (website) in Spain.
- OP - Original Poster (the person who started a thread)
- ROFL - Rolling Over Floor Laughing
- LOL - Laughing Out Loud
- IMO/IMHO - In My Opinion/In My Humble Opinion (mostly a very strongly defended opinion ;-)
- YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (Meaning this is what I experienced, your experience may be different.)
- FSO - From Skin Out (putting all items you plan to take in one ordered list without distinguishing what you wear and what you carry, without food nor water but with the respective containers included).
- TBW - Total Base Weight, similar to the above, for a different opinion than mine see @dougfitz posts starting here.
- PCB - Post Camino Blues (common pilgrim illness and indication for being infected with the Camino Virus, best treatment is planning your next Camino ;-)
- PM - Private Message (me), also called Conversation on this forum. Just click the name of the person you want to message and click on 'start a conversation'.
- @ - An invisible abbreviation, if you type @+forum name, it converts the forum name into a link to the respective profile page of that member and sends him/her a message/alert that s/he has been mentioned in such and such thread if they have that enabled. F.e. @BShea and @nzPhreadde your contributions have been added to the main post.
- ASAP - As Soon As Possible
- KSO - Keep Straight On (used in guides and way descriptions)
Another very important one for the forum is IMO, in my opinion, which is what most posts are rather than gospel IMO.Thanks - it's good my ip birthday wishes tneb to know these. Personally I prefer words but at least I know what you are on about now.
I keep seeing SY in forums...what does that mean?I put this in here because I feel it is most useful for new members, if I am wrong dear mods, please move it ;-)
I just realise that we use quite a few abbreviations on this forum, some specific, some not specific to the Camino. I also noted that some newer members are a bit shy to ask what we mean with them, so I compiled this little list from the top of my head, feel free to add to it and Buen Camino, SY
PS I decided, for better overview, to add the abbreviations mentioned in the follow-up posts to the first post. So no, I didn't come up with the whole list ...
Camino Specific
- SJPdP/SJPP - Saint Jean Pied de Port (a popular starting place in France)
- SDC/SdC - Santiago de Compostela
- CdN - Camino(s) del Norte
- MMDD - Miam Miam DoDo (a French Camino guide series concentrating on the bare essential composed of the informal words Miam Miam= yummy food and dodo=nighty-night/sleep)
- VdlP - Via de la Plata (Camino from the South of Spain to Santiago)
- CP - Camino Portuguese or Camino Primitivo depending on the sub-forum you are in ;-)
- CF - Camino Francés (The pilgrimage route that comes from SJPdP (Saint Jean Pied de Port) and crosses the Pyrenees and passes through Roncesvalles and Puente la Reina where it joins with the route coming from the Somport pass. Often translated as the French Way it actaully means the Way of the Franks aka those foreigners that come from behind the Pyrenees out of the Frankish Empire ;-)
- CI - Camino Ingles (The English Way, in ye olde times the way taken, predominatly, by English and Irish pilgrims who arrived by ship/boat in A Coruña or Ferrol and walked/rode from there to Santiago).
- TSA - Transportation Security Administration (USA) - Those that refuse to let you take more than 100ml of shampoo and/or your walking poles on board of a civilian aircraft ;-) For a more 'dry' explanation see this post.
- HYOH - Hike Your Own Hike and WYOW - Walk Your Own Way:
Go at your own pace and don't let other people's experiences determine or affect yours.- SNCF - French Railway (website) - useful for researching travel to/near SJPdP.
- RENFE - Spanish Railway (website)
- ALSA - Main, but not only, bus/coach network (website) in Spain.
General
- OP - Original Poster (the person who started a thread)
- ROFL - Rolling Over Floor Laughing
- LOL - Laughing Out Loud
- IMO/IMHO - In My Opinion/In My Humble Opinion (mostly a very strongly defended opinion ;-)
- YMMV - Your Mileage May Vary (Meaning this is what I experienced, your experience may be different.)
- FSO - From Skin Out (putting all items you plan to take in one ordered list without distinguishing what you wear and what you carry, without food nor water but with the respective containers included).
- TBW - Total Base Weight, similar to the above, for a different opinion than mine see @dougfitz posts starting here.
- PCB - Post Camino Blues (common pilgrim illness and indication for being infected with the Camino Virus, best treatment is planning your next Camino ;-)
- PM - Private Message (me), also called Conversation on this forum. Just click the name of the person you want to message and click on 'start a conversation'.
- @ - An invisible abbreviation, if you type @+forum name, it converts the forum name into a link to the respective profile page of that member and sends him/her a message/alert that s/he has been mentioned in such and such thread if they have that enabled. F.e. @BShea and @nzPhreadde your contributions have been added to the main post.
- ASAP - As Soon As Possible
- KSO - Keep Straight On (used in guides and way descriptions)
They are the initials of @SYates , at least in the post you quote. I have no idea what they might mean in another forum.I keep seeing SY in forums...what does that mean?
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