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Renascer

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2021
And wants to fly back home to USA from Portugal? What is the protocol in cases like this?
That made me curious.
 
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Walkerooni

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C. Frances SJPdP to Santiago (June-ish 2018)
You certainly won’t be getting on a plane. I expect you would do in Portugal exactly what you would do at home. Self-isolate. Have someone contact health authorities there to find out how, where, and for how long you need to self-quarantine. Once you have had the required negative COVID tests, you can consider flying home.
 

Robo

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CF SJPdP to SdC
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For a positive test? The isolation could be for a long time I imagine!
 
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To Santiago and back (roads & paths; Tours; Francés; sea; roads & paths)
And wants to fly back home to USA from Portugal? What is the protocol in cases like this?
That made me curious.
@Walkerooni has given you all the information you need to know. With a positive test result, you can't fly, and the Portuguese authorities will tell you what to do. I can't easily find information in English on Portuguese government websites. Right now, it seems you must self-isolate for 2 weeks. Portugal doesn't seem to operate expensive hotels where tourists are obliged to stay during self-isolation, as some other countries do. At least I've not heard it. You can't stay for self-isolation in a pilgrims albergue.

But that is now. I see from your other posts that you plan to travel to Portugal at the beginning of September. Who knows what will be then. They seem to notice in Lisbon right now that they may have a problem with the Delta variant very soon, hence the current weekend closure of the city - no entry/exit allowed from Friday afternoon until Sunday, with few exceptions.

Make sure that your additional expenses for accommodation, food etc are covered in case you test positive before departure from Portugal, either by your credit card or your travel insurance. And of course, let's hope that you don't get seriously ill.
 
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Basically, you will not be allowed to board a flight. You will be required to comply with local rules for people who test positive - which probably means isolating for the required period of time. Even if you are vaccinated, I think it would be wise for you to inform yourself in advance about what your travel insurance policy will cover. You need to have a contingency plan for such a possibility:



If you have a ton of money, you can arrange a medical evacuation through a specialist provider or get a policy / membership to a scheme that will provide such an evacuation in the event that you need it:

 
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Renascer

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Year of past OR future Camino
2021
Yes this situation is very complicated and one needs to be more prepared and know the consequences. All i know is that if continues the way it is now, i will need to do something with my tickets. I bought through Air France but somehow the flights ended up being with Delta even though i was booking with Air France. And my charge on credit card says air France. Now if i cancel i would need to figure out, who i need to talk to: Delta or air France. I bought their Allianz travel insurance but not sure if that help to get my money back if I am cancelling...
it is amazing how long this terrible virus is impacting the world.
 
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Camino Chrissy

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Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
As interesting as the Linked articles provided above are to read, I noticed the dates on the first two are from January and February 2021 and the last one from April 1st. With so many rules changing continually, I wonder how relevant all those facts are at this moment in time.
 

BookGirl305

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Ingles (after Covid)
Air France and Delta are affiliated and often sell seats on each others' flights. You would use Air France for any communications.
 
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You certainly won’t be getting on a plane. I expect you would do in Portugal exactly what you would do at home. Self-isolate. Have someone contact health authorities there to find out how, where, and for how long you need to self-quarantine. Once you have had the required negative COVID tests, you can consider flying home.
Certainly agree there will be no plane rides, however I’m confused when you say self quarantine, does that mean you are given the confidence by authorities to self quarantine and not ordered to a state run quarantine centre. If so I realise why Australia has very few cases in the country.
 
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Camino Frances (Sep-Oct 2016). Camino Baztan to Trindad de Arre, joined the Frances (Sept-Oct 2019).
For a positive test? The isolation could be for a long time I imagine!
The isolation is not about one being sick, it’s about one being contagious and ensuring the virus doesn’t get passed along. The contagion period is assumed to be 10 to 14 days, I believe. Even if one has been vaccinated there’s still a chance that one could contract the virus and not show symptoms but still pass it on.
 
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As interesting as the Linked articles provided above are to read, I noticed the dates on the first two are from January and February 2021 and the last one from April 1st. With so many rules changing continually, I wonder how relevant all those facts are at this moment in time.
Still relevant, I think. CDC is currently telling people that airlines will deny boarding to people who cannot show a negative test;

I welcome any more recent info.
 

Walkerooni

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Year of past OR future Camino
C. Frances SJPdP to Santiago (June-ish 2018)
Certainly agree there will be no plane rides, however I’m confused when you say self quarantine, does that mean you are given the confidence by authorities to self quarantine and not ordered to a state run quarantine centre. If so I realise why Australia has very few cases in the country.
Agreed—Australia aced this! I used the term “self quarantine” as reference to a moral obligation. Practically, I am not sure what Portuguese authorities would require. So it is imperative every traveller know the answer to that question in any of the countries in which they'll be travelling, before leaving home! Because as much as everyone is itching to get back to the Camino, this thing isn’t finished with us yet, and wishful thinking won’t make it so.
 

ginniek

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Year of past OR future Camino
frances 2017
Yes this situation is very complicated and one needs to be more prepared and know the consequences. All i know is that if continues the way it is now, i will need to do something with my tickets. I bought through Air France but somehow the flights ended up being with Delta even though i was booking with Air France. And my charge on credit card says air France. Now if i cancel i would need to figure out, who i need to talk to: Delta or air France. I bought their Allianz travel insurance but not sure if that help to get my money back if I am cancelling...
it is amazing how long this terrible virus is impacting the world.
You deal with the airline issuing the tickets, which would be Air France in this case; you are an Air France passenger. The fact that the flights are on Delta is part of a codesharing arrangement with the other airline. Because I am a long-term flyer with Delta, but prefer Air France for transatlantic flights I make my reservations through Delta (so I get the miles in my frequent flyer account), but book the Delta codeshare flights that are really Air France.
 
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pjacobi

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2015, St. Jean Pied de Port to Burgos
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For those still working, I suspect the boss will not be pleased to learn that your "vacation" has been extended for 2 more weeks. It's a big risk for those still employed and doing the Camino this year.


-Paul
 

LesR

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Year of past OR future Camino
Camino Frances 2017, 2018; Camino Portuguese 2019
And wants to fly back home to USA from Portugal? What is the protocol in cases like this?
That made me curious.
Bear in mind that, should you test positive, getting on a flight might not be the greatest of your worries... COVID is not a nice affliction that can be shrugged off ("soldier on", as the ad goes) and hospitalisation may be required... People do die from it!

Do you have a contingency plan for medical treatment should you test positive and have moderate to severe symtoms?
 
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Year of past OR future Camino
2009
Yes this situation is very complicated and one needs to be more prepared and know the consequences. All i know is that if continues the way it is now, i will need to do something with my tickets. I bought through Air France but somehow the flights ended up being with Delta even though i was booking with Air France. And my charge on credit card says air France. Now if i cancel i would need to figure out, who i need to talk to: Delta or air France. I bought their Allianz travel insurance but not sure if that help to get my money back if I am cancelling...
it is amazing how long this terrible virus is impacting the world.
If you bought and paid through Air France then your contract is with them and you should contact them initially. Also as an EU airline your protection may be better under EU regulations
 

trecile

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Year of past OR future Camino
Francés (2016 & 2017), Norte (2018), Francés-Salvador-Norte (2019), Portuguese (2019)
You deal with the airline issuing the tickets, which would be Air France in this case; you are an Air France passenger.

If you bought and paid through Air France then your contract is with them and you should contact them initially. Also as an EU airline your protection may be better under EU regulations
Yes, but according to another post @NeiaBrazil bought the tickets from a third party, therefore the contract is not with Air France, but with the third party.
 

Renascer

Active Member
Year of past OR future Camino
2021
Yes this situation is very complicated and one needs to be more prepared and know the consequences. All i know that if continues the way it is now i will need to do something with my tickets. I bought through air France but somehow the flights ended up with Delta even though i was booking with Air France. Now if i cancel i would need to figure out who i need to talk to Delta or air France. I bought their Allianz travel insurance but not sure if that help to get my money back because I am cancelling...
it is amazing how long this terrible virus is impacting the world.
Yes, but according to another post @NeiaBrazil bought the tickets from a third party, therefore the contract is not with Air France, but with the third party.
Correct i bought online through a third party. Skyscanner.
 
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The general rules in EU countries are that you have to self-isolate there, and they typically let you leave if you test negative a few days later (details vary from one country to the next, plus as someone pointed out, who knows in September ?).

But in that case, you would also need to check on the requirements for travelling home, which could conceivably be more restrictive than travelling out from Portugal.

So probably best to ask again closer to your travel dates.
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking..
Year of past OR future Camino
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
Yes, but according to another post @NeiaBrazil bought the tickets from a third party, therefore the contract is not with Air France, but with the third party.
Yep, I had to go through my third party(s) and then "they" had to deal with the airline, creating a much bigger problem. It was awful...but put in perspective it was nothing more than a privileged First World annoyance.
 

trecile

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Year of past OR future Camino
Francés (2016 & 2017), Norte (2018), Francés-Salvador-Norte (2019), Portuguese (2019)
Correct i bought online through a third party. Skyscanner.
Skyscanner is a site to search for flights, but they don't sell tickets. You must have searched via Skyscanner and clicked on one of the offers. It's possible that you clicked the link for a third party or the Air France link. It's important for you to know which one it was.
Look back through your confirmation emails. Did the first one come from Air France or something like Expedia, edreams, kiwi, etc.? Hopefully it was Air France that you booked with, as it's much easier to deal directly with the airline.
I would think that if you call Air France they will know if you booked through them or a third party.
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