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I am a university student and I’m conducting research to write a final paper for my class about Jewish influence on the Camino de Santiago. I would love to interview any Sephardic Jews with stories about the Camino or anecdotes if you have seen evidence of Judaic influence/presence on the Camino! If anyone has researched this topic, please comment! There are few sources for me to examine, and I would appreciate the help!
Kanga, if you look at the time of the OP's second post and mine, you would see they are posted a minute apart. In other words, we were typing at about the same time, the OP beating me by a few seconds.@Anemone del Camino to whom are you replying? It looks as if you are answering the post before, which was from the original poster.
I pause before hitting the "post" button. Especially when I could be upsetting a new member who may be feeling a bit unsure.
With everyone, old and new members, I also try to remember my Camino lessons, especially that of tolerance and kindness, while on the forum. I often don't succeed, but I try.
Hi, Farish,I am a university student and I’m conducting research to write a final paper for my class about Jewish influence on the Camino de Santiago. I would love to interview any Sephardic Jews with stories about the Camino or anecdotes if you have seen evidence of Judaic influence/presence on the Camino! If anyone has researched this topic, please comment! There are few sources for me to examine, and I would appreciate the help!
Welcome Farish, I would also suggest that you contact @scruffy1 as I am sure he would be able to give you much information on the subject.
I am a university student and I’m conducting research to write a final paper for my class about Jewish influence on the Camino de Santiago. I would love to interview any Sephardic Jews with stories about the Camino or anecdotes if you have seen evidence of Judaic influence/presence on the Camino! If anyone has researched this topic, please comment! There are few sources for me to examine, and I would appreciate the help!
Major DOOH! moment (also called a senior moment) just remembered this well known verse from the poem "La Preciosa" from the ~13th Century, Roncesvalles, and printed on a lot of nowadays credenciales:
“La puerta se abre a todos, enfermos y sanos; no sólo a los católicos sino aun a paganos, a judíos, herejes, ociosos y vanos”
As far as I know that poem referred to the general hospitality in Roncesvalles, not only the pilgrim-specific one.
Also a good contact point might be Jose Luis Barreda at http://bibliotecajacobea.org in Carrion de los Condes (Palencia).
Buen Camino, SY
Hola SY I think this is the correct translation?? (Or at least I hope so).
"The door is open to everyone, sick and healthy; not only Catholics but even pagans, Jews, heretics, idle and vain "
I hope that this is still the creed / philosophy of the Camino today. A true Buen Camino to all.
Hola SY I think this is the correct translation?? (Or at least I hope so).
"The door is open to everyone, sick and healthy; not only Catholics but even pagans, Jews, heretics, idle and vain "
I hope that this is still the creed / philosophy of the Camino today. A true Buen Camino to all.
From my memory walking Frances in 2009 and 2011 there is one of the biggest juderias/aljamas on CF in Estella. Generally the part of the town to the right over the river as you enter....like a wrote in my previous post, jews usually lives on their own "ghettos" , the aljamas, what we know actually like Juderias.
Hi.
They lived at Juderias, like Ghetos neighborhoods, ( when entering in Belorado, you walk in one of these Juderias)
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Tidbit in both senses of the term.One little tidbit: the Galician Tarta de Santiago is thought to have originally been a Passover cake - it's made with almond flour and no leavening.
Generally Ashkenazi are (were) East European Jews and Sefards are (were) West European Jews. Ashkenazis were mostly either executed in nazi camps or transfered to nowadays Israel whereas Sefards still remains (although many of them forcefully embraced Christianism back in the history) in France and Spain. Their culture is just amazing.I have met a number (well, 6 or 7) Jews on the Camino, and the two sephardim were Israeli-- one of them descended from the Valencian community via Salonika, whose grandmother was preserved from the trains heading north to the death camps by the heroic Spanish consul there during the 1940s. Otherwise, they were Ashkenazi from the US and none of them knew much of Spanish Jewish history. The excellent Red de Juderias site was mentioned early on in this thread. The church of San Lorenzo in Sahagun was built (by Muslim masons) quite close to the juderia there which, if memory serves me well, was expelled in the 1430s
This is an undergraduate paper, and while yes, I have been searching Google and my university’s library for a month or two so far, it is difficult to find material on this particular topic for some reason.
Major DOOH! moment (also called a senior moment) just remembered this well known verse from the poem "La Preciosa" from the ~13th Century, Roncesvalles, and printed on a lot of nowadays credenciales:
“La puerta se abre a todos, enfermos y sanos; no sólo a los católicos sino aun a paganos, a judíos, herejes, ociosos y vanos”
As far as I know that poem referred to the general hospitality in Roncesvalles, not only the pilgrim-specific one.
If you look closely, the second line is in Hebrew (the word "derech" - which is in script - means 'via' or 'way' in Hebrew - the rest loops around the side - there are many, many of these markers along the Via de la Plata in Castilla y Leon). The third line is in Arabic.
Are you familiar with the contents of this book? Amazon allows a search of the book and when I entered camino or Santiago or Compostela it came up with zero results. Judging by the table of contents, it seems to be a book about Jewish pilgrimages with destinations that are, obviously, to sites outside of Spain?
JodiT,I am just reading this thread now, in September of 2022. I am wondering if the OP ended up writing the thesis, and if anyone else has more information on this. I am an Ashkinazi Jew, currently on the Camino.
Thank you! I started walking with a group from Logrono to Burgos. The group ended, and I took a bus and train to Sarria, and have been walking on my own. I will get to Santiago de Compostela tomorrow morning. It has been a nice combination: walking with a group, and then walking on my own. I have asked myself countless times “why am I doing this” and “why are all these people doing this”. I can understand that 1000 years ago, people had religious beliefs about the camino. But it seems that very few do now. Even many Catholics don’t seem to have a firm conviction of what they are doing here. Me? I really liked the idea of a spiritual journey, and being with others on a spiritual journey. For many, though, it doesn’t seem spiritual. They are constantly talking with their companions about every day things - things they would be talking about if they were sitting at home. I have enjoyed some alone time in my walking. Time to contemplate, to think about how I want to improve my life, to live it to be more true to myself.JodiT,
Welcome to the forum!
Where are you now?
After Burgos and Castrojeriz on the Camino Frances as you climb the Alto de Mostelares; you will see widely; to the east the path taken from Castrojeriz and to the west the path to take.
Looking north you might glimpse the location of Mota de los Judios, a "lost" 13th c Jewish settlement recently excavated. Archeological finds from the site were published 2018 in this
illustrated scholarly overview. The bibliigraphy will be useful for further research.
May you have apples and honey to celebrate the New Year and
wherever you do go Carpe diem!
I know it's an old thread, but I found this when walking through TuiThank you for such a prompt reply! I’m looking at Jewish influence on the pilgrimage itself, but that would certainly encompass the developments of the communities that dot the route and interactions/conflicts between Christians and Jews!
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