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I have LP4.0 (The blue ones) and I taking them to the CP in September. I jumped from boots to Lone Peak 3.5 and then to 4.0. I feel the toe box in the 4.0 is wider than the 3.5. I bought them one size bigger than what I regularly wear since feet tend to sore (feel larger) during hikes. If 3.0 worked for you, Im sure that 4.0 will as well.
When it comes to cushion, it is definitely better the the 3.5 however, they are zero drops so don't expect the same support a a regular trail runner. You can always replace the insole for better support.
And don't worry about buying men's shoes due to its size, I've met other women in the AT doing the same including equipment. And since Altra is great at comfort but not that great fashion design, we will still look like we have big clown shoes. If you wore 3.0 you know what I mean. Good luck.
I have not worn the Lone Peak. I have switched from Hoka Bondis to Altra Olympus. What do I like about them?
1) Toe box - I really like the shape of the toe box. It is anatomically correct for my feet. They help to accommodate my wide feet.
2) Cushion - The ultra cushion makes it feel like you have a spring in your step. They absorb stones etc. and you do not even feel them. They do start breaking down somewhere about ~400 miles for me. You may consider staging an extra pair with a bounce box if on a long camino. Last year I bounced and extra pair of Bondis along the Frances.
3) Sole - The sole is very sticky in all kinds of terrain. It did not matter whether it was wet or not. They just grab to the surface.
4) GaiterTrap - I like the GaiterTraps. It saves me from having to put a split ring, and velcro on the shoes.
5) Non waterproof - I like that they are not waterproof. They breathe well, and dry quickly,
6) High heel Achilles - I like that the back of the shoe is higher. It allows me to lace lock and eliminate any heel slip ... especially since I upsize my shoes for the Camino. I also like that there is no plastic etc. in the back of the shoe. The Bondis had a piece of plastic that caused me some problem when I wore a hole in the inside back of the shoe.
I am not sure about the availability and returns, but Amazon in the states makes trying different shoes easy.
Hello!
Very disappointed in the new model and the fit was horrible. I have been such a fan of Altra, but the changes in the hiking shoe and running shoe models I have been wearing have made for a bad fit for me.
For the walk in May on the Way of Saint Francis we both wore Topo Athletic Ultraventures. Loved them. And we put them to the test. Lots of muddy paths and rain--got them dry all but one night. And one day 5 miles through a foot of snow. Plus the road walking. Over 500k in them and I think I can get another 200k.
I used TIMPs 1.0 on the CF and switched to the LonePeak 4.0 mids for the VF and love them. Just bought another pair for my upcoming Norte. I feel the toebox is wider than the 3.5 which I also own. My wife is trying out the new TIMP 1.5 and likes them as well. There is more padding than the Lonepeaks
Hi
I will be very interested in this thread as my feet are similarly very wide. I recently bought my first pair of Altra's, the LP4.0 after reading so many great reviews. I wanted something non-Goretex after reading DaveBuggs excellent reasoning. However...they are not wide enough so are just waiting to be returned. (I've only worn them indoors, I am in the UK and bought them from Runners Need.) I can feel the outside edge of the toe box but the main problem is the stitching across the base of the tongue, I am too wide there and have a high arch so it makes my foot ache. Different ways of lacing makes no difference because it is the stitching. These shoes are also a size larger than my normal size so I am not keen to go any bigger.
To prevent blisters between my pinky and next toe I wear Injinji toe liner socks with light merino walking socks on top. Currently I have some Merrell MQM Flex GTX shoes (one size up) and these have been great. In fact comparing the innersoles of these with the LP's I would say Merrell just win on width but it is only a very small difference. The design of the shoe is just better for my wide feet and I have never felt an edge anywhere. The Merrell's weigh 31.5g more per shoe which is not much different either. They are a different shoe, designed for a slightly different purpose: MQM stands for Moving Quickly in the Mountains, so they are not trail runners more a hybrid. Nor are they zero drop.
I wore them from Porto to SdC on the inland route and they were comfy on all the different surfaces. Plus my feet stayed dry when it poured during my day in SdC. Recently in the UK I walked in long wet grass and I did get very wet feet (should have taken my ankle gaiters).
So I am going to stick with these shoes if I make it out to the Ingles in September. I will just change into dry socks at lunch time which should counter the reduced airiness from being Goretex.
Hope you find your perfect shoes
I’m a lone peak lover myself, but for the Camino I went with the TIMP 1.5 by Altra instead for the added cushion. I’ve not regretted them and I’m in Foncebadón now.Its time for me to buy new shoes. There are times when I think I have to quit this walking business because finding shoes is so difficult . Those of you who know me will already know my problem
My feet are as wide as they are long...my husband calls me sponge bob (square feet). My second toe is also longer than my big toe. If my shoes aren't right my pinkie toes become a mess of blister and sadness
I buy men's ...my foot is EEE wide but new balance 4E felt snug. In Europe we have waaaaay less wide fit choice.. And no roomy normal width will work...I'm painting a grim picture... In the hope that you'll hear the despair in my post.
So...I loved Lone Peak 3... Hated Lone Peak 3.5... Is the new fit on Lone Peak 4.0 more like the older shoe?
Also I read reviews saying the support/cushion feel goes very quickly and feels hard underfoot?
Anyone have the Lone Peak 4?
Many thanks in advance...I'm going to sit hear now wishing and hoping for arrows that point to my perfect shoe
When I buy new insoles, I take the old ones out and lay them over the new ones. I draw around the new ones (upside down), in pen and then cut them to size. If you’re wearing altras, which are wide, it’s a good idea to buy the insoles too large so that there are no gaps around the toe box. Altras and really squidgy soft insoles are like walking on marshmallows.Great thanks... this does back up what I'd read about the width. I've tried insoles and always end up with tiny heel blisters where the insole isn't an exact match... Perhaps I need to try again.
Ps... I'm long since over style... I'd wear the boxes if they'd sole them
I've posted previously about the Altra Timp (1.0 on last summer CF, now 1.5). I also have a wide foot and my 2nd toe is longer than my big toe. I found the Timp to be one of the most comfortable shoes I've ever worn. And, for me at least, they were noticeably roomier in the the toe box. I prefer them over them over the Lone Peak. Try both in the store--or Zappos, or from Altra directly.Its time for me to buy new shoes. There are times when I think I have to quit this walking business because finding shoes is so difficult . Those of you who know me will already know my problem
My feet are as wide as they are long...my husband calls me sponge bob (square feet). My second toe is also longer than my big toe. If my shoes aren't right my pinkie toes become a mess of blister and sadness
I buy men's ...my foot is EEE wide but new balance 4E felt snug. In Europe we have waaaaay less wide fit choice.. And no roomy normal width will work...I'm painting a grim picture... In the hope that you'll hear the despair in my post.
So...I loved Lone Peak 3... Hated Lone Peak 3.5... Is the new fit on Lone Peak 4.0 more like the older shoe?
Also I read reviews saying the support/cushion feel goes very quickly and feels hard underfoot?
Anyone have the Lone Peak 4?
Many thanks in advance...I'm going to sit hear now wishing and hoping for arrows that point to my perfect shoe
I bought Lone Peak 4 for my Portuguese camino in August. I love them, super wide toebox, so no more "get these shoes off my feet!!@?~" Lots of space for my toes !!!! Luuuuuuv themIts time for me to buy new shoes. There are times when I think I have to quit this walking business because finding shoes is so difficult . Those of you who know me will already know my problem
My feet are as wide as they are long...my husband calls me sponge bob (square feet). My second toe is also longer than my big toe. If my shoes aren't right my pinkie toes become a mess of blister and sadness
I buy men's ...my foot is EEE wide but new balance 4E felt snug. In Europe we have waaaaay less wide fit choice.. And no roomy normal width will work...I'm painting a grim picture... In the hope that you'll hear the despair in my post.
So...I loved Lone Peak 3... Hated Lone Peak 3.5... Is the new fit on Lone Peak 4.0 more like the older shoe?
Also I read reviews saying the support/cushion feel goes very quickly and feels hard underfoot?
Anyone have the Lone Peak 4?
Many thanks in advance...I'm going to sit hear now wishing and hoping for arrows that point to my perfect shoe
My wife’s a hobbit also - hairy feet and two breakfasts. We both struggle with shoes so when anything fits, we buy in bulk. Nobody ever got promoted for suggesting that manufacturers use more expensive materials or avoid a shortcut.You fab people... Already great advice. I can order and try a few pairs at home... Honestly I am a walking/camino addict but the shoe search breaks me... Its good to know I'm not the only hobbit out there
My wife’s a hobbit also - hairy feet and two breakfasts. We both struggle with shoes so when anything fits, we buy in bulk. Nobody ever got promoted for suggesting that manufacturers use more expensive materials or avoid a shortcut.
I tried some LPs thinking that I might need something more than my sandals in early spring on the Primitivo. Nope. Hated them. Walked the Primitivo in my sandals and they were fine. Wore waterproof socks when it was freezing.
I love the way I keep trying to re-invent the wheel.
I have worn Lone Peak 3.5s for two caminos and need a new pair. Now it turns out there is not only a 4.0 but also a 4.5. I bought a 4.0 pair on closeout at REI, but can of course return them if the 4.5 would be better. I have tried to find a 3.5 pair online, but no luck so far. So I am going to have to change models.
Does anyone have experience in comparing the 3.5, 4.0, and 4.5? I confess that when I tried on the 4.0s, I didn’t detect any difference with my 3.5s, but I know that some people have found a big difference.
I have worn Lone Peak 3.5s for two caminos and need a new pair. Now it turns out there is not only a 4.0 but also a 4.5. I bought a 4.0 pair on closeout at REI, but can of course return them if the 4.5 would be better. I have tried to find a 3.5 pair online, but no luck so far. So I am going to have to change models.
Does anyone have experience in comparing the 3.5, 4.0, and 4.5? I confess that when I tried on the 4.0s, I didn’t detect any difference with my 3.5s, but I know that some people have found a big difference.
Thanks, buen camino, Laurie
I also have lamented the end of the Lone Peak 3.0s (Laurie - I thought your Altras were also 3.0s???). The 3.5s didn't work for me -- they added a lot of plastic on the top that made them too tight over my high arch. The 4.0s were better but not great. But, I was recently in the US and went to REI where I tried on multiple pairs of the same size 4.0s and found one pair that felt a bit better than the others. I bought it to try. I'm hoping the shoes will loosen up on the top. I also tried on the Altra Timps 1.5, and I liked them a lot -- but they did not have my size. That might be where I go next. (They seem to fit a bit smaller. I need to size up a half size.) They do not have as much plastic structuring stuff on the top of the shoe, they feel very squishy on the bottom (in a good way), they are wide and they seem to have traction. I've read some reviews on line and people do use them for long distance hiking (rather than just trail running). Finding the shoes is so much harder than doing the walks!
Hardly. I'm a duck.Its good to know I'm not the only hobbit out there
AMEN.If only manufactuers would stop "updating" shoes and apparel that have a good track record already!
I found LP has much better grip than Timps, which I found quite slippery. However, I don't have the best balance!While you're looking at the new Lone Peak, give the new Time (1.5) a try. It's basically the Lone Peak with more cushioning, and an even roomier toe box.
Well, I’ve had enough bad foot disasters to know that just because they feel good walking around my house is no guarantee they will feel good after once I’m well into Camino mode.Hi Laurie! That's so great that they all work! And that you have choices! and you've had time to do experiments!
I think the general word among the north american long distance backpackers is that the Lone peaks are grippier than the Timps on the wet rocks, etc.
You could choose by colour.You and those shoes are going to spend a lot of time together!
I'm just now planning a short trip to the UK in February -- thinking it will be the last trip for my Lone Peak 3.0s. Sadly. In the meantime I am wearing a pair of Lone Peak 4.0s around the house to try to loosen them up over my high arches. I'm hoping they might work in the spring with thinnish socks!
So, now that I am in possession of three new pairs of shoes — Lone Peak 4.0, and two Timp 1.5 (1/2 size difference), I have to say that the only difference I am noticing is that the Timp is clearly higher off the ground, which must mean that as others have said, it has more cushioning.
Yep, I definitely think the Timps are noticeably far more slippery than the LPsAs Mia1 says, I've also noticed that while the Lone Peak 4.0's and the Timp 1.5's appear to have the same material in their outsoles (DuraTread™ Rubber with TrailClaw™), if I stand outside on a wet, sloping rock with my Lone Peak on my right foot and my Timp on my left foot, the foot with the Timp will slip and the one with the Lone Peak will not. My older model Lone Peaks used to slip on wet rocks, but the 4.0 (advertised as having a new, grippier sole) gripped well over the last 800 kilometers (and is now worn out).
I bought the 4.5 but am still wearing my 4s and saving my 4.5s for my next Camino in July. Walking around the house in the 4.5s i think the only real differences I noticed were 1 - shorter shoelaces, 2 - slightly roomier despite being the same size and 3 - nicer colour.
I used 3.5’s but found that after several long mile days on multi-day hikes .. they were not providing enough cushioning ( especially at the heel.. pain)Its time for me to buy new shoes. There are times when I think I have to quit this walking business because finding shoes is so difficult . Those of you who know me will already know my problem
My feet are as wide as they are long...my husband calls me sponge bob (square feet). My second toe is also longer than my big toe. If my shoes aren't right my pinkie toes become a mess of blister and sadness
I buy men's ...my foot is EEE wide but new balance 4E felt snug. In Europe we have waaaaay less wide fit choice.. And no roomy normal width will work...I'm painting a grim picture... In the hope that you'll hear the despair in my post.
So...I loved Lone Peak 3... Hated Lone Peak 3.5... Is the new fit on Lone Peak 4.0 more like the older shoe?
Also I read reviews saying the support/cushion feel goes very quickly and feels hard underfoot?
Anyone have the Lone Peak 4?
Many thanks in advance...I'm going to sit hear now wishing and hoping for arrows that point to my perfect shoe
Apologies for terrible typos ..I used 3.5’s but found that after several long mile days on multi-day hikes .. they were not providing enough cushioning ( especially at the heel.. pain)
I used Brooks for a 100 mile hike in the Autumn and found them to be ok... BUT .. i had a couple of blisters under toes.. which i never got with the Altras .. Im now waiting for a pair of Topo Atheltic Ultraventures to be delivered in advance of my May Camino VDLP ... Recently became aware of the brand and they too have the Wide Toe Box ( they make a point of having it as a feature accross their range) In addition their Trail range includes Zero, 3mm and 5mm drops if thats an issue for you
The Ultravnetures sound perfect for me as its a 5mm drop, has deep cushioning at the heel (helpful for gravel and road sections !) and the Virbram sole ( grip) is apparently more grippy and harder wearing than Altras .. Cost is similar to Altra (whom I believe were acquired by North Face .. which may explain why numerous customers are mentioning changes they don't like) I see another reply in here mentikning that they used the Topo Ultraventures on their Camino last year ... sooooo
Some were saying the Timps needed to ‘roughen up’ maybe? The founder of Altra said the new Timp 2.0s should be grippier though.Yep, I definitely think the Timps are noticeably far more slippery than the LPs
I'm not sure how much more roughed up my Timps needed to get! Walked 300km on them - granite sets, beach, mountain trail, concrete. They continued to be pretty slippery. Definitely didn't feel safe with them.Some were saying the Timps needed to ‘roughen up’ maybe? The founder of Altra said the new Timp 2.0s should be grippier though.
I'm just seeing this, will check the lacing. Haven't used them since but from memory the back loop seemed a little smaller but i don't see how it would bother me...Thank you for the info. I'm a big fan of of the Lone Peak 4's but haven't had a chance to try on the 4.5s yet so this is all great to know, since it looks like I'm going to have to get a new pair before I start my Camino this spring. Definitely attracted to the updated colorways and more room in an already roomy shoe is good news for my stupidly wide feet. Did you happen to notice any issues with the new loop on the back of the heel? I remember reading some feedback somewhere that it was causing abrasion issues for some people. And how do you feel about the new lacing system?
I'm just seeing this, will check the lacing. Haven't used them since but from memory the back loop seemed a little smaller but i don't see how it would bother me...
If you've got extremely wide feet, I really think you'll love them!
I have tried on the 4.5's and they are much, much better than the 4's. I loved the 3's infact I have been an Altra fan for years (road and trail), but in the last couple they have disappointed me. I have purchased and really like some Topo Athletics shoes. I wore the ultra ventures last year on the Way of St. Francis and they were excellent. They took a beating from snow to rain to mud and even a bit of sunshine.So... has anyone tried the 4.5?
I’ll need to buy another pair later this year... I wonder what changes have been made?
That's great! Yeah, I doubt the changes are big enough to justify paying full price for 4.5s when you can get 4.0s for that price! Buen Camino!!Thanks for the feedback! I ended up finding a new pair of 4.0s on closeout (for less than $60) - they're identical to my existing pair and will be these ones I'll be wearing on my Camino in May, so I'm set for now. Maybe the 5.0s will be out by the time I get back!
which waterproof socks worked well for you? i am planning to wear sandals the whole way (frances)I tried some LPs thinking that I might need something more than my sandals in early spring on the Primitivo. Nope. Hated them. Walked the Primitivo in my sandals and they were fine. Wore waterproof socks when it was freezing.
I love the way I keep trying to re-invent the wheel.
I wear Sealskinz and Dexshell.which waterproof socks worked well for you? i am planning to wear sandals the whole way (frances)
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