• For 2024 Pilgrims: €50,- donation = 1 year with no ads on the forum + 90% off any 2024 Guide. More here.
    (Discount code sent to you by Private Message after your donation)

Search 69,459 Camino Questions

A bit of bus and public travel confusion

Tammom

New Member
Time of past OR future Camino
Spring 2023
I’m unclear on suggested busses. Are bus lines in Portugal and Spain private and/or government operated? And are the suggested services I see ticket agents or the bus lines themselves.

Is there a single place to find schedules for, and book, buses and trains?

Finally, are BlaBla car drivers verified By the service? It seems like a nice alternative.
 
Down bag (90/10 duvet) of 700 fills with 180 g (6.34 ounces) of filling. Mummy-shaped structure, ideal when you are looking for lightness with great heating performance.

€149,-
I’m unclear on suggested busses. Are bus lines in Portugal and Spain private and/or government operated? And are the suggested services I see ticket agents or the bus lines themselves.

It would help if you told us what these suggested services are.
There are several different bus companies operating in Spain, and (to my knowledge) they aren't government operated. Some are national or international and others are regional.

Is there a single place to find schedules for, and book, buses and trains?

Rome2Rio.com gives options (train, bus, car) but then you usually need to book with the operator, such as Alsa. Rome2Rio usually also has a link to their parent company Omio, which is a booking site for trains and buses, though I don't think that the very local lines can be booked that way - you usually just pay the driver.

This site has good information about how buses work in Spain

 
It would help if you told us what these suggested services are.
There are several different bus companies operating in Spain, and (to my knowledge) they aren't government operated. Some are national or international and others are regional.



Rome2Rio.com gives options (train, bus, car) but then you usually need to book with the operator, such as Alsa. Rome2Rio usually also has a link to their parent company Omio, which is a booking site for trains and buses, though I don't think that the very local lines can be booked that way - you usually just pay the driver.

This site has good information about how buses work in Spain

Thank you.
 
€2,-/day will present your project to thousands of visitors each day. All interested in the Camino de Santiago.
I have questions about the bus/train too.

We are going together and my husband needs to leave early. I think he we could get to Leon or 2-3 days before Leon.

From Leon to Santiago, there is a train leaves at 5:09pm. I assume I don't need to purchase train ticket for him in advance, he can buy it on the same day. Am I correct?

The places 2-3 days before Leon, for example, Carrión de los Condes
Rome2Rio.com says there is ALAS bus "Once Daily", but when I search ALSA website, from Carrión de los Condes to Leon for next several days or further in July, it always says "no ticket available".

My real question is:
1. what's the bus schedule? Is it once once a day or several times a day?
2. do i need to purchase bus ticket in advance or can buy it at bus station before boarding?

Thanks,
 
From Leon to Santiago, there is a train leaves at 5:09pm. I assume I don't need to purchase train ticket for him in advance, he can buy it on the same day. Am I correct?
I don't think this is a safe assumption. I don't have extensive experience on the the trains and buses in Spain, but it has happened that I had to take a later one that I had wanted, because some trains/buses have filled up. It depends on the day. So, whether you decide to buy in advance depends on how confident you are of the date/time you will need, and how flexible he will be. But I am guessing that buying a few days in advance would usually be enough. Also you can choose a higher fare that can be changed or cancelled.

when I search ALSA website, from Carrión de los Condes to Leon for next several days or further in July, it always says "no ticket available".
Perhaps the schedule is not available for July, but when I searched for April 18 as an example, I found this one daily bus. Perhaps you didn't have the date entered correctly
 

Attachments

  • Capture.JPG
    Capture.JPG
    50.8 KB · Views: 9
THank you C Clear for the answers.

I searched again on ALSA and you are correct that there are ticket on Apri.18.
Look like it only has bus ticket Tuesday - Friday. I was searching for the weekend, that's why I couldn't find any.

Hope the bus is daily, not just Tuesday to Friday.
 
The one from Galicia (the round) and the one from Castilla & Leon. Individually numbered and made by the same people that make the ones you see on your walk.
I’m unclear on suggested busses. Are bus lines in Portugal and Spain private and/or government operated? And are the suggested services I see ticket agents or the bus lines themselves.

Is there a single place to find schedules for, and book, buses and trains?

Finally, are BlaBla car drivers verified By the service? It seems like a nice alternative.
As far as I know, busses in Portugal are privat . I only have experiences in the northern districts as Viana do Castelo, Minho and Braga.

The trains you can find at the website CP.pt

If you browse for a regional busline say e.g. Viana do Castelo to Braga you will find several websites but I advise to look on the original site of the buscompany.

From Porto you can reach places like Barcelos , Tamel ( nearby Casa da Fernanda) Viana do Castelo and the northern Atlantic coast, Valença do Minho and even Vigo in Spain by train .

If you want international connections by bus e.g. Lisbon or Porto to Santiago or visa versa look at the ALSA website. Reservation at the website is advised although you can buy a ticket at the desk at the busstation but that does not guarantee that seats are available,especially not during the caminho high season.
 
Last edited:
Love BlaBlaCar and there is a small amount of verification for its drivers, so that’s not an issue. The biggest problem is that they can cancel on you, leaving you without a ride. So if you use them, have a Plan B. And know they are not like a taxi/Uber/Lyft service: rides are usually scheduled days (if not weeks) ahead of time
 
The 2024 Camino guides will be coming out little by little. Here is a collection of the ones that are out so far.
In Spain
I’m unclear on suggested busses. Are bus lines in Portugal and Spain private and/or government operated? And are the suggested services I see ticket agents or the bus lines themselves.

Is there a single place to find schedules for, and book, buses and trains?

Finally, are BlaBla car drivers verified By the service? It seems like a nice alternative.
In
Love BlaBlaCar and there is a small amount of verification for its drivers, so that’s not an issue. The biggest problem is that they can cancel on you, leaving you without a ride. So if you use them, have a Plan B. And know they are not like a taxi/Uber/Lyft service: rides are usually scheduled days (if not weeks) ahead of time
Spain, the official train line is RENFE (renfe.com). I have always had good luck with trains, they are clean, convenient and punctual. The high speed train is the one labeled AVE but the others seem fine to me, they just make more stops and have to travel slowly when they pass through cities.

If you get “none available” as a response to your search it may be because they don’t show further than 30 days out, in some cases. While it is possible to buy a ticket for the same day, it would give me peace of mind to get it at least a few days in advance. Beat of luck!
In Spain the official train line is RENFE (renfe.com).
 
Spain, the official train line is RENFE (renfe.com).
Things have gotten a bit more complicated recently with the arrival of Ouigo and Iryo

See this thread. Ouigo is a joint venture with the French government, and Iryo is Italian. I haven’t tried searching for any of these high speed options, but would love to hear from forum members who have. @J Willhaus has described her ride on Ouigo, but I don’t think there have been many more posts. I’m also imagining that the arrival of three different options means that searching on a third party site like Rail Europe is the easier way to go, at least to find the train options.
 
I have the same problem. Want to Go from carrion de Los Condes sunday 30 of july. to León I’m afraid there never are buses un Sundays. Therefore my plan is to take a taxi from Carrión de los Condes to Frómista and train from there via Palencia
 
Ideal sleeping bag liner whether we want to add a thermal plus to our bag, or if we want to use it alone to sleep in shelters or hostels. Thanks to its mummy shape, it adapts perfectly to our body.

€46,-
I’m also imagining that the arrival of three different options means that searching on a third party site like Rail Europe is the easier way to go, at least to find the train options.
Trainline is my favourite site for train searches. And it covers Ouigo and iryo too in a single search. I find it simpler to use than RENFE's own website. Helps that it covers France too.
 
I’m unclear on suggested busses. Are bus lines in Portugal and Spain private and/or government operated? And are the suggested services I see ticket agents or the bus lines themselves.

Is there a single place to find schedules for, and book, buses and trains?

Finally, are BlaBla car drivers verified By the service? It seems like a nice alternative.
Here's a good article on public transportation in Portugal. This talks about the regional and national bus systems; besides this, there are networks of municipal buses, but the muni networks tend to serve locals who travel from villages to bigger centers in the morning, and back in the afternoons (for schoolkids and workers). These networks tend not to be very useful for tourists and other travellers because of their quirky scheduling.

I believe government funding subsidizes all the bus services to some extent, but the regional/national ones are labelled as separate companies.

Rome2Rio is pretty good at covering all the possibilities.

 
Very light, comfortable and compressible poncho. Specially designed for protection against water for any activity.

Our Atmospheric H30 poncho offers lightness and waterproofness. Easily compressible and made with our Waterproof fabric, its heat-sealed interior seams guarantee its waterproofness. Includes carrying bag.

€60,-
I have the same problem. Want to Go from carrion de Los Condes sunday 30 of july. to León I’m afraid there never are buses un Sundays. Therefore my plan is to take a taxi from Carrión de los Condes to Frómista and train from there via Palencia

So it's true that there is no bus Fri-Sun.

I guess taxi is the only option. Good thing is Train from Leon to Santiago is daily.
 
Trainline is my favourite site for train searches. And it covers Ouigo and iryo too in a single search. I find it simpler to use than RENFE's own website. Helps that it covers France too.
I love Trainline and it covers as well in Italy when I needed to use it last fall.
 
this was the bus schedule in carrion a year ago. the “bus station” is the large bar at the intersection of some streets as you enter town on the camino, across from the statue of a pilgrim. the bartender will give you advice and sell you a ticket on the spot or otherwise help you make arrangements. a super nice guy! buen camino!
1681821447971.jpeg
 
Technical backpack for day trips with backpack cover and internal compartment for the hydration bladder. Ideal daypack for excursions where we need a medium capacity backpack. The back with Air Flow System creates large air channels that will keep our back as cool as possible.

€83,-
I have questions about the bus/train too.

We are going together and my husband needs to leave early. I think he we could get to Leon or 2-3 days before Leon.

From Leon to Santiago, there is a train leaves at 5:09pm. I assume I don't need to purchase train ticket for him in advance, he can buy it on the same day. Am I correct?

The places 2-3 days before Leon, for example, Carrión de los Condes
Rome2Rio.com says there is ALAS bus "Once Daily", but when I search ALSA website, from Carrión de los Condes to Leon for next several days or further in July, it always says "no ticket available".

My real question is:
1. what's the bus schedule? Is it once once a day or several times a day?
2. do i need to purchase bus ticket in advance or can buy it at bus station before boarding?

Thanks,
A long reply. I have used ALSA quite a lot, in common with some Spanish travel providers (trains mainly) they only offer tickets for sale a month or so before the travel date. Check dates nearer now to find prices and timings. I can use a senior qualification to get cheaper tickets which is easier to do on line, but tickets can be bought on the bus.
I have also used blabla cars twice. First time was brilliant, no problems at all. Good prices and good companions. Second time, driver didn't turn up at Malaga seafront at 7:00. So a day was wasted. Bank Holiday and no train tickets available.
So it's not perfect.
Buen Camino
 
I’m unclear on suggested busses. Are bus lines in Portugal and Spain private and/or government operated? And are the suggested services I see ticket agents or the bus lines themselves.
The MANY bus lines are private operations, but due to licensing issues, it is very rare to have two companies on a particular route.
 

Most read last week in this forum

Some news that was posted on Facebook by Johnnie Walker which I'm sure he won't mind my repeating here. Not sure who his informant was. The post was quite long but I'll just repost it here in...
Hi all! Have you used Pilgrim.es to plan your Camino? The reviews that I have found make me a bit nervous. Bit I can’t find any other company that will work with my group size. I don’t mind paying...
Hi All, My next leg is from Los Arcos. I'm hoping to go back in Sept and as i will be solo this time and no one to shared transfer costs with im trying to figure out best routes for bus and train...
Ryanair have announced that after November they will no longer be flying to/from Bordeaux. Unfortunate for those heading for SJPDP as it is a useful alternative to Biarritz...
I saw the list posted with all the transfer companies for different routes, super helpful! What I haven't seen yet is a good estimation tool/reference for budget consideration. Top Santiago has a...
hello - Does anyone have a suggested app that i can both track my progress along the route and share real time location? i know how to share real time on google maps but. or route progress. thank you!

❓How to ask a question

How to post a new question on the Camino Forum.

Forum Rules

Forum Rules

Camino Updates on YouTube

Camino Conversations

Most downloaded Resources

This site is run by Ivar at

in Santiago de Compostela.
This site participates in the Amazon Affiliate program, designed to provide a means for Ivar to earn fees by linking to Amazon
Official Camino Passport (Credential) | 2024 Camino Guides
Back
Top