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So where did I go wrong with so many places with no albergies and only pensiones et al. at over 20€ a night?Portugal is decidedly more economical to get around than Spain. However, the Xunta albergues in Spain are marginally more economical for sleeping at the expense of comfort.
Thank you for clarifying this.I can only speak about September-October - in my experience, the albergues between Lissabon and Porto are far apart, but very modern, and very nice, overall - averaging around 10-15 euros a night, but with that, you often have your own shower. In addition, because there are so few people walking that part of the Caminho Portugues, it is pretty easy to find a place to stay - in some places, where there are no albergues, you can stay at a hotel and pay around 15-20 euros a night - quite often, I was the only one staying at a hotel.
Once you get to Porto, things change drastically, and you are in quasi-Camino Frances mode - albergues tend not to be so nice, and can be crowded. The difference between Lissabon to Porto and Porto to Santiago is night and day - almost an entirely different camino. If you want to do the Lissabon to Porto stretch, be prepared for a far less 'social' - more solitary - experience. I enjoyed it quite a bit, but after about 8 days of solo walking, I was very hungry to meet other persons on the trail.
Have not walked it but all I have heard is that Lisbon to Oporto is a bit of a let down, and that is saying it kindly.Thanks for the input!
Now, if you could only walk one section, either Lisbon-Porto OR Porto-Santiago, which would you walk?
Subjective, but it will help me decide if I want to walk it all or just a section
Thanks!!
I just saw you've walked the Frances, so this is probably your second Camino. The Portugues was my second one as well. If you have to choose, I would probably recommend the Porto to Santiago, and then continue up to Fisterra and Muxia (but despite what the guidebooks say, I would, when leaving Pirto, walk early in the morning along the river in Porto to the coast, rather than taking the tram there). After Porto, you a beautiful coastline, some pretty hills and it's much, much easier on the feet than the Lisboa to Porto leg. There are many more people, as well, though I wouldn't say, when I walked it, that it's overcrowded. You also have the option of walking along inland or along more of tvhe coast on this part of the Portugues.
Of course, it really depends on what you like. Lisboa to Tomar is pretty flat, and can get pretty hot in summer, and most of the way up to Porto is very hard on the feet (lots and lots of cobblestones and asphalt), but you walk along the River Tejo a lot - but not all - of the way for the first few days, which is nice, and I really liked Tomar - a beautiful Templar town. Past Tomar all the way to Porto it still is pretty tough on the feet, but you get a taste of "off the beaten path" Portugal, and you eventually get to pass through Coimbra, which is a very lovely city. And again, you get to stay at some very nice albergues on the way, though the first eight days or so of the Lisboa to Porto walk involve very (long 30 km and more) stages. On the other hand, I met no more than six or so folks the whole way to Porto, and some of them ended up taking buses to Porto! As I mentioned, after about the eighth day, I was ready to meet other walkers, even though I am pretty independent - but that didn't really happen until I reached Portofrom there to Santiago, and beyond, that's not a problem at all.
One other thing worth mentioning... One advantage of starting in Lisboa is Lisboa and environs itself. It is a gorgeous city and the nearby coast - though not part of the Caminho - is absolutely amazing, although you can always bus or train it back when you finish your walk if you do the Porto to Santiago leg.
As a fellow vegetarian - and an "almost" vegan (the very occasional yogurt in a pinch, but no eggs or cheese), hmmm, I have to say, food choices were kinda slim - I stocked up as much as possible (avocados and nuts as much as I could) at the larger supermarkets - salads and bread at night, though in Portugal there's a very delicious bean soup which is vegetarian as well. But food was problematic for me on all three caminos I've walked - whether in Portugal or in Spain - I am a bread lover but by the end of each walk I was ready to swear off bread for good!. (Of course, that didn't last very long ) At least the bread is pretty good in Portugal and in Galicia - usually!
Finally, I can't recommend strongly enough to continue on - weather be damned! - to Fisterra and then to Muxia. It is definitely worth it! And if you're lucky, you might not get wind and rain to boot!
It depends on what you want. Both of those stretches are stunning, IMHO, and provide fantastic experiences. Lisbon to Porto has incredible historical towns (Lisbon, Santarem, Tomar, Coimbra, Sao Joao, etc.) as well as lovely smaller places. I greatly enjoyed the walking there although it was certainly true that I saw few other pilgrims. That said, the smaller community of pilgrims made for a different - though still very enjoyable - experience. That section has some longer stages (that can be shortened if you do a search here) and is flatter. On the Porto to SdC portion, there are of course also historical towns (including Valenca!) but I preferred the ones south of Porto. I like walking in hills and north of Porto definitely provides that although don't count on the same heights as the CF. There are more albergues and many more pilgrims the whole stretch of the northern section which provides more of a CF experience if you want that. Two years ago, the trail marking was definitely better north of Porto but I hear that it has gotten better in the south. Either way you go, you should enjoy it. (at least according to people who have walked the routes) Bom Caminho!Thanks for the input!
Now, if you could only walk one section, either Lisbon-Porto OR Porto-Santiago, which would you walk?
Subjective, but it will help me decide if I want to walk it all or just a section
Thanks!!
Have not walked it but all I have heard is that Lisbon to Oporto is a bit of a let down, and that is saying it kindly.
Come on guys - do you really think that, in medieval times, if a pilgrim was offered a lift by a passing horse and cart he'd turn it down?!?
. Come on guys - do you really think that, in medieval times, if a pilgrim was offered a lift by a passing horse and cart he'd turn it down?!?
Of course.Hahaha, thats what i always say, but ooooh the real die hards never agreeI'm always trying to hitch a ride with a farmer on the back of his tractor, but unsuccesful up to know Thats would be my version of horse and cart.
It all depends on the route you take and how many times you get lost but I figured 394km Lisbon to Porto and 264km from Porto to Santiago. I walked via the coastal route only the first day and a half out of Porto (Porto > Vila do Conde > Barcelos). FYI, I walked the first part in 15 days (plus two rest days) and the second part in 10 days (plus a half day walking from central Porto to Matosinhos). Bom Caminho!what the distance from lisbon to porto to santiago?
malaga..its the southern most tip of spainThe Cuban Café on Dixie Highway, just south of Miami? That's a long way away.
(that's the only Malanga I know of)
malaga..its the southern most tip of spain
are there yellow arrows from there??That would be Tarifa and thats about 650km from Lisbon
No idea, sorry. Dont think the Tarifa - Lisbon walk has arrows, but who knowsare there yellow arrows from there??
In Portugal are some municipal albergues at 5 or 6 € a day but also privat albergues , donative or about 10 €.I have also been studying the Portuguese and I am finding that if walking alone it will be more expensive because albergues at 5-10€ a night are not as common. Also some etapas between anykind of ned are quite long and may require being split with the help of a taxi to come fetch you, take you to an albergue and drop you off again in the morning where you ended up the night before.
Is that not correct?
There are!Does the CP Coastal Route offer albergue-priced accommodation, too? I've been reading the Coastal is a tad pricier than the main route.
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