Mana di Castanja
Castanja di Mana
- Time of past OR future Camino
- Frances 2018
Lebaniego / Picos / 2022
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Living in a major metropolitan area, lots of traffic, many people walk. Most people hit by cars are not using the crosswalks, not waiting for the walk signal, staring at their phone and not paying attention.How is its possible that you can be hit by a car?
I understand that Alex..pull out your ear plugs to your phone and do not stare at the phone when you are close to/on trafficked roads.
Edit: Sorry, I didn't mean you, but those who do this.
Indeed. I was always amazed at how many people would be startled silly when I passed them on bicycle at walking speed after announcing my approach loudly in two languages.… I think that some pilgrims get into a "zone" in their minds and forget that they are walking through the world where everyone else is living just their lives as they normally would - they forget to look out for traffic. …
You must remember that some have hearing issues and may not hear your approach.Indeed. I was always amazed at how many people would be startled silly when I passed them on bicycle at walking speed after announcing my approach loudly in two languages.
That's why I pass at walking speed. And no doubt hearing is the reason sometimes. And load music in earbuds sometimes. But more often it is "zoning out" as november_moon described.You must remember that some have hearing issues and may not hear your approach.
That is much appreciated - thank youThat's why I pass at walking speed.........
Indeed. I was always amazed at how many people would be startled silly when I passed them on bicycle at walking speed after announcing my approach loudly in two languages.
"Only the Father knows."Nobody knows the hour.
Your Camino has already begun in your heart and soul.
Hi,
This is my first post, and i'am very excited for my Camino in May 2018.
Excuse me, my english writing is not so very good, but i will do my best to make the readers understand it.
When i made the choice to walk the Camino on my own from Saint Pied de Port, my girlfriend was very upset to loose me for 6 weeks!
I said its very save to walk the Camino on my own, because the road to Santiago is a road full of Pilgrims all over the world.
Upset as she was, she says, "people die at the Camino!"
Well, people die everywhere...i said.
So i was very curious if its true what she said, people die at the Camino..and i hit the googlebutton.
So i came on a website Amawalker , whos has a list of people dying at the Camino.
It is very sad to read the list of people who died trying to get to Santiago.
There are many people who died on a heartattack and even drowning, but there is one thing where i'm really shocked about.
There are many car/van/bycicle accidents, Pelgrims or bicycles get hit by a car.
So i wonder do we also walk the Camino the France on the road where cars and vans drives!?
How is its possible that you can be hit by a car?
Its very sad, that so many people trying to walk the Camino, died by accident with a vehicle.
I know never let fear decide your future, and I will walk the Camino in 2018, no doubt about it!
I'm sorry if my first post is so dramatic, but i'm curious what other pilgrims think about this sadness.
Thnkx!
When i made the choice to walk the Camino on my own from Saint Pied de Port, my girlfriend was very upset to loose me for 6 weeks!
I said its very save to walk the Camino on my own, because the road to Santiago is a road full of Pilgrims all over the world.
Thnkx!
Hi,
This is my first post, and i'am very excited for my Camino in May 2018.
Excuse me, my english writing is not so very good, but i will do my best to make the readers understand it.
When i made the choice to walk the Camino on my own from Saint Pied de Port, my girlfriend was very upset to loose me for 6 weeks!
I said its very save to walk the Camino on my own, because the road to Santiago is a road full of Pilgrims all over the world.
Upset as she was, she says, "people die at the Camino!"
Well, people die everywhere...i said.
So i was very curious if its true what she said, people die at the Camino..and i hit the googlebutton.
So i came on a website Amawalker , whos has a list of people dying at the Camino.
It is very sad to read the list of people who died trying to get to Santiago.
There are many people who died on a heartattack and even drowning, but there is one thing where i'm really shocked about.
There are many car/van/bycicle accidents, Pelgrims or bicycles get hit by a car.
So i wonder do we also walk the Camino the France on the road where cars and vans drives!?
How is its possible that you can be hit by a car?
Its very sad, that so many people trying to walk the Camino, died by accident with a vehicle.
I know never let fear decide your future, and I will walk the Camino in 2018, no doubt about it!
I'm sorry if my first post is so dramatic, but i'm curious what other pilgrims think about this sadness.
Thnkx!
There is a very good discussion on reflective vests etc here:One thing is walking by the side of a road where the cars are (walk on the left, wear reflective vest or at least patches of reflective material on your gear.....
Hi,
This is my first post, and i'am very excited for my Camino in May 2018.
Excuse me, my english writing is not so very good, but i will do my best to make the readers understand it.
When i made the choice to walk the Camino on my own from Saint Pied de Port, my girlfriend was very upset to loose me for 6 weeks!
I said its very save to walk the Camino on my own, because the road to Santiago is a road full of Pilgrims all over the world.
Upset as she was, she says, "people die at the Camino!"
Well, people die everywhere...i said.
I had to laugh, because I just had a similar discussion with my husband-- but he is concerned about me walking in France! (I am hoping to walk from Le Puy en Velay in early Oct.) "Spain is fine!" he said, "But France?" --I've walked twice in Spain, but both times with my teenage son. I think he's gotten used to the Camino being safe...this time I am going by myself. But fear is not rational, and I know I can quote crime statistics and death rates to my husband for hours and it will make no difference. What he wants to know is "will I be safe". I promised to text him every morning from where I start out, and every night when I stop walking. I promised to walk with people when I can, or at least keep someone in eye sight.
ps Your English is fine.
Hi,
This is my first post, and i'am very excited for my Camino in May 2018.
Excuse me, my english writing is not so very good, but i will do my best to make the readers understand it.
When i made the choice to walk the Camino on my own from Saint Pied de Port, my girlfriend was very upset to loose me for 6 weeks!
I said its very save to walk the Camino on my own, because the road to Santiago is a road full of Pilgrims all over the world.
Upset as she was, she says, "people die at the Camino!"
Well, people die everywhere...i said.
So i was very curious if its true what she said, people die at the Camino..and i hit the googlebutton.
So i came on a website Amawalker , whos has a list of people dying at the Camino.
It is very sad to read the list of people who died trying to get to Santiago.
There are many people who died on a heartattack and even drowning, but there is one thing where i'm really shocked about.
There are many car/van/bycicle accidents, Pelgrims or bicycles get hit by a car.
So i wonder do we also walk the Camino the France on the road where cars and vans drives!?
How is its possible that you can be hit by a car?
Its very sad, that so many people trying to walk the Camino, died by accident with a vehicle.
I know never let fear decide your future, and I will walk the Camino in 2018, no doubt about it!
I'm sorry if my first post is so dramatic, but i'm curious what other pilgrims think about this sadness.
Thnkx!
But sometimes, the marked path IS shared with cars. So if it's two-lane, instead of always walking on the left, walk so the setting or rising sun is in front of you, not in front of the motorist. And out where the unpaved one-lane path is shared with cars (many places), keep in mind circumstances that may interfere with the driver's vision. Or deep ruts that may suddenly shove a car, motorcycle, or bicycle sideways.I’m always surprised by the number of pilgrims who walk on the side of the road when the sun is coming up. They can see fine, they are walking facing the traffic, and they probably think that the drivers can see them too, but the driver has the sun directly in his eyes . . . .
Stay on the Senda – that is what it’s there for.
Jill
You give good advice, @t2andreo .Funny thing about life...no one gets out of it alive. Eventually, all organic life forms die. There are various reasons to be sure.
I work on the UK motorway system. We wear clothing like this EVERY time we go out on site.For any lingering doubts, I saw this last year just before Villafranca Montes de Oca and wanted to post this example of how serious the Spanish take road safetyTo be fair, I had to leave the Camino trail and walk along the road to get this photo!View attachment 35939
Love my BOSE!I LOVE the Darwin Awards and eagerly await the new issue each year!
What earphones? I wear Bose, noise-canceling ear phones on the plane traveling over. But, they are always in the first box of redundant to use items mailed down the road to Ivar in Santiago. You are preaching to the choir on that issue.
Hi JeffI work on the UK motorway system. We wear clothing like this EVERY time we go out on site.
It does nothing to protect you, it just gives the drivers of large, intercontinental lorries something to aim at!
Seriously so many people wear "hi-vis" clothing nowadays it has lost its impact.
And engage in your life. Isn't that why you are here?pull out your ear plugs to your phone and do not stare at the phone when you are close to/on trafficked roads.
Edit: Sorry, I didn't mean you, but those who do this.
Thanks for all the reply’s! But for the record, i am not planning to die on the Camino, i want to live it!
But i will be extra carefull on the traffic roads.
I also want to quote Mark Twain on this topic;
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
I will walk the Camino on 2018
Buen Camino!
Hi,
This is my first post, and i'am very excited for my Camino in May 2018.
Excuse me, my english writing is not so very good, but i will do my best to make the readers understand it.
When i made the choice to walk the Camino on my own from Saint Pied de Port, my girlfriend was very upset to loose me for 6 weeks!
I said its very save to walk the Camino on my own, because the road to Santiago is a road full of Pilgrims all over the world.
Upset as she was, she says, "people die at the Camino!"
Well, people die everywhere...i said.
So i was very curious if its true what she said, people die at the Camino..and i hit the googlebutton.
So i came on a website Amawalker , whos has a list of people dying at the Camino.
It is very sad to read the list of people who died trying to get to Santiago.
There are many people who died on a heartattack and even drowning, but there is one thing where i'm really shocked about.
There are many car/van/bycicle accidents, Pelgrims or bicycles get hit by a car.
So i wonder do we also walk the Camino the France on the road where cars and vans drives!?
How is its possible that you can be hit by a car?
Its very sad, that so many people trying to walk the Camino, died by accident with a vehicle.
I know never let fear decide your future, and I will walk the Camino in 2018, no doubt about it!
I'm sorry if my first post is so dramatic, but i'm curious what other pilgrims think about this sadness.
Thnkx!
I'd rather be found next to my bike¹ on the road than next to my bed in the nursing home.I would sooner die on the Camino
than watching TV.
...
I also want to quote Mark Twain on this topic:
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
...
Hi @Chris66; I'm late coming to this thread. I don't know what the road rules are in the Netherlands, or in Spain for that matter, but never assume, as is the norm in some countries, that the pedestrian has the right of way. And never exhibit exasperation or bemusement if a driver does not give you the right of way. I witnessed the latter done in one of the larger towns; the driver stopped, got out of his car and hurled some words (none of which I understood) back at the pedestrian/pilgrim. (It turned out that the driver had a green light which the pedestrian/pilgrim had not noticed, so the driver's anger was understandable.) In the circumstances and as an observer, I found the situation amusing, but the driver obviously did not think so and, in any case, incidents like these do not reflect well on pilgrims.Hi,
This is my first post, and i'am very excited for my Camino in May 2018.
Excuse me, my english writing is not so very good, but i will do my best to make the readers understand it.
When i made the choice to walk the Camino on my own from Saint Pied de Port, my girlfriend was very upset to loose me for 6 weeks!
I said its very save to walk the Camino on my own, because the road to Santiago is a road full of Pilgrims all over the world.
Upset as she was, she says, "people die at the Camino!"
Well, people die everywhere...i said.
So i was very curious if its true what she said, people die at the Camino..and i hit the googlebutton.
So i came on a website Amawalker , whos has a list of people dying at the Camino.
It is very sad to read the list of people who died trying to get to Santiago.
There are many people who died on a heartattack and even drowning, but there is one thing where i'm really shocked about.
There are many car/van/bycicle accidents, Pelgrims or bicycles get hit by a car.
So i wonder do we also walk the Camino the France on the road where cars and vans drives!?
How is its possible that you can be hit by a car?
Its very sad, that so many people trying to walk the Camino, died by accident with a vehicle.
I know never let fear decide your future, and I will walk the Camino in 2018, no doubt about it!
I'm sorry if my first post is so dramatic, but i'm curious what other pilgrims think about this sadness.
Thnkx!
Nor be surprised at the opposite. In one city, drivers would frequently stop and look at me expectantly if I just happened to be standing within ten meters of the roadway. As if they were thinking, "just maybe that guy wants to cross the road..."Hi @Chris66And never exhibit exasperation or bemusement if a driver does not give you the right of way.
That's why I pass at walking speed. And no doubt hearing is the reason sometimes. And load music in earbuds sometimes. But more often it is "zoning out" as november_moon described.
Nor be surprised at the opposite. In one city, drivers would frequently stop and look at me expectantly if I just happened to be standing within ten meters of the roadway. As if they were thinking, "just maybe that guy wants to cross the road..."
Well, I have enjoyed the ride 99% of the time on the "official" Francés in spite of the passing problem. Two interesting variations: two weeks ago, I was going the other way, and five pilgrims walking side-by-side across the path (which in that section was paved and two car lanes wide), who must have seen me coming, chose to remain spread out across the road, forcing me to stop until they had passed me. On tho other hand, I was recently in a hurry to return a wallet a pilgrim left in our albergue, and every pilgrim (dozens) on the way except one heard me coming and moved to one side of the path.If I were asked, I would recommend any Camino Frances bicigrino to stay on the bitumen and enjoy the ride.
I must confess, WGroleau, that I am somewhat chastened by your reply, because I enjoyed it despite my little rant. I must be getting too sensitive to walkers' complaints about bikes on the camino. As you point out too, there is always another side to the story.Well, I have enjoyed the ride 99% of the time on the "official" Francés in spite of the passing problem.
Ha, no problem. Actually, there are many sections that I would recommend cyclists avoid, even though I survived them.I must confess, WGroleau, that I am somewhat chastened by your reply, because I enjoyed it despite my little rant. I must be getting too sensitive to walkers' complaints about bikes on the camino. As you point out too, there is always another side to the story.
Be brave, have faith and stay safe.Hi,
This is my first post, and i'am very excited for my Camino in May 2018.
Excuse me, my english writing is not so very good, but i will do my best to make the readers understand it.
When i made the choice to walk the Camino on my own from Saint Pied de Port, my girlfriend was very upset to loose me for 6 weeks!
I said its very save to walk the Camino on my own, because the road to Santiago is a road full of Pilgrims all over the world.
Upset as she was, she says, "people die at the Camino!"
Well, people die everywhere...i said.
So i was very curious if its true what she said, people die at the Camino..and i hit the googlebutton.
So i came on a website Amawalker , whos has a list of people dying at the Camino.
It is very sad to read the list of people who died trying to get to Santiago.
There are many people who died on a heartattack and even drowning, but there is one thing where i'm really shocked about.
There are many car/van/bycicle accidents, Pelgrims or bicycles get hit by a car.
So i wonder do we also walk the Camino the France on the road where cars and vans drives!?
How is its possible that you can be hit by a car?
Its very sad, that so many people trying to walk the Camino, died by accident with a vehicle.
I know never let fear decide your future, and I will walk the Camino in 2018, no doubt about it!
I'm sorry if my first post is so dramatic, but i'm curious what other pilgrims think about this sadness.
Thnkx!
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