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I'm having a hard time understanding your question. Assuming you sleep in beds ( as opposed to tent camping), do you not use the pillow? My liner has no hood, but rather something of a "pillow pocket" into which one can stuff a pillow, or a down puffy, etc. Works just fine.I've never used a bag/liner without a hood. Has anyone come up with a solution if the mattress is less than ideal when there is no hood on the bag? Not crazy about sleeping with my face against a rain jacket...
... Has anyone come up with a solution if the mattress is less than ideal when there is no hood on the bag? ...
... Assuming you sleep in beds ( as opposed to tent camping), do you not use the pillow? ...
Big Agnes makes a flip bag. Well one side insulated other just material. Think it's called horsethief or the likes.Cleaning old gear out of the garage and am thinking of adding a down sheet. Liners alone don't work for me on chilly nights and the tiny foot box on my lightweight bag is a bit confining. After perusing the forum and online reviews, it looks like the Sea to Summit Traveler and the Montbell Spiral Down Hugger sheet are the two most often recommended. Cost, weight are roughly the same so a couple of questions:
1. I've never used a bag/liner without a hood. Has anyone come up with a solution if the mattress is less than ideal when there is no hood on the bag? Not crazy about sleeping with my face against a rain jacket...
2. Anyone care to comment on comparing these two products?
3. Is there an equally light down sheet that offers a hood?
4. I tried finding a bag that would reverse from a liner on one side to an insulated side but can't find one. Anyone run across a "flip" sleeping bag to cover different temperature ranges?
I'm such a gear head....
I do the same thing with my 7 ounce down throw blanket.I have a large size silk bag liner, it has a fold over for a pillow. Inside of the silk liner I cut to fit a fleece liner (cut the zipper off). I can sleep under just the silk, or under the fleece and silk. The fleece doesn't fall off the silk liner because it is inside.
You didn't say what time of year you are walking, and as others have mentioned this will make a difference in your needs. For my spring Camino I made my own "flip" bag. I used the sea to summit liner and had a down throw cut and sewn to one side of the liner. I used the Black Diamond throw they used to sell at Costco. It was inexpensive and worked brilliantly. On the warmer nights I slept on top of the down side and on the colder nights I slept under the down side. Total weight was around 1 lb.
I had snaps added to mine. But you have to reinforce the material where the snaps go, or the super thin material will tear. 1 row of snaps on the duvet, another on the liner seem. You can also have snaps on two opposing sides, and then use it as a sleeping bag, using a drawstring system to create a foot box.That down quilt from Costco is great and astonishingly cheap. I got one, too. I like your idea of attaching a sheet, but then you can't really wash the sheet during your camino unless you wash the down quilt with it, which I wouldn't want to do. I'm thinking maybe velcro or snaps? The down quilt does tend to slide off.
1. I've never used a bag/liner without a hood. Has anyone come up with a solution if the mattress is less than ideal when there is no hood on the bag? Not crazy about sleeping with my face against a rain jacket...
Thanks, Jozero. I thought of doing this, as a lot of Forum members seem to like a similar system. I'm trying to keep the weight down, though. My liners weigh about 5 ounces and I think a small downie would be about a pound. This is about half a pound heavier than the Traveler or Spiral Down Hugger. Now I know it's obsessive and geeky of me....This is slightly off topic as it's another product option but I'm toying around with a Sea to Summit Reactor Extreme (that does have a hood built in as well as a drawstring around the neck) and a cheap Costco down blanket. Because the down blanket slips off the top very easily I'm thinking to add some velcro points along the bottom edge and sides to keep it in place. Should also allow for a pretty good layering sleep system depending on how cold it gets. Warmth wise I think it should be comfortable down to 5-6C (45F?) and both components are very compact and light.
I'm having a hard time understanding your question. Assuming you sleep in beds ( as opposed to tent camping), do you not use the pillow? My liner has no hood, but rather something of a "pillow pocket" into which one can stuff a pillow, or a down puffy, etc. Works just fine.
I love the obsession too... much to my wife's chagrin! Good luckThanks, Jozero. I thought of doing this, as a lot of Forum members seem to like a similar system. I'm trying to keep the weight down, though. My liners weigh about 5 ounces and I think a small downie would be about a pound. This is about half a pound heavier than the Traveler or Spiral Down Hugger. Now I know it's obsessive and geeky of me....
So maybe, at the end of the time, I'll use a system like this, too!! Thanks!
When are you walking? I walked in April/May and brought a very lightweight silk liner that had something like a hood (a large extension of the silk on the bottom). I also had the Sea to Summit Traveler, which I used as a quilt. And I brought an old pillowcase, which did not, of course, fit the pillows.
So the pillowcase went across the pillow, then the extra material on my liner went on top of that. My face/head never touched the pillow itself.
Hope this helps.
Thanks but don't use pillows. I'm weird... Trying to avoid taking a liner just to put under a bag but realizing I am way overthinking this one!!I have used a stuff/dry sack stuffed with my clothes as an emergency pillow in the past and it works well for me.
Buen Camino, SY
Bring a pillowcase. Or pull the pillow through a tshirt.
I may end up with the sarong idea....thanks!I use a lightweight sarong as a sheet and it covers the pillow too (or the dry sack stuffed with clothes if no pillow...)
I have a large size silk bag liner, it has a fold over for a pillow. Inside of the silk liner I cut to fit a fleece liner (cut the zipper off). I can sleep under just the silk, or under the fleece and silk. The fleece doesn't fall off the silk liner because it is inside.
Big Agnes makes a flip bag. Well one side insulated other just material. Think it's called horsethief or the likes.
I'm usually not the ""Princess and the Pea" type person, but I really hate the feel of that Sea to Summit liner. Some kind of rayon/polyester/jersey... eeech. I don't think I'd like silk, either. Am looking for some kind of sheet that feels more like cotton, but is lightweight.
I have an Enlightened Equipment Revelation. It is more expensive than the Costco quilt, but you may want to take a look at the design when retrofitting another quilt with velcro etc.
Do you have a down jacket with a removable hood? If so just bring the hood.
I had snaps added to mine. But you have to reinforce the material where the snaps go, or the super thin material will tear. 1 row of snaps on the duvet, another on the liner seem. You can also have snaps on two opposing sides, and then use it as a sleeping bag, using a drawstring system to create a foot box.
My Yeti VIB 150 bag (no longer made) has no hood. So for a pillow covering I took a summerweight, single layer, infinity scarf. I believe it is made from jersey - wonderfully soft and stretchy and accomodated any size pillow I encountered. Would be very easy to make from a fabric remnant too. Just ensure there is some stretch to the fabric and, of course, that it is lightweight.
I love the obsession too... much to my wife's chagrin! Good luck
Camino Geek in solidarity,
Jordon
I would love to take the credit for that, but it was not me.I still can't figure out how you took old straps off an Osprey pack and put them on another one!. Sadly, I don't think I have your skills...
Yes, the straps are intended for a sleeping pad, but the straps are removable (small fastek buckles). Quilts are generally lighter than sleeping bags because they the eliminate the weight of the insulation on the sleeping surface. The insulation on the sleeping surface is generally compacted by body weight and prohibits the loft of the insulation to retain warmth.But it looks like there are straps on the sides, as it is really meant to strap to a sleeping pad. Is that weird when using as folded over like a sleeping bag? Does cold air make it uncomfortable? Thanks!
I just googled big agnes horse thief. Two has them. And on clearance. Great product. Bc.Big Agnes makes a flip bag. Well one side insulated other just material. Think it's called horsethief or the likes.
Oops. Sorry! I wonder who it was because I sure couldn't figure out how to do it!I would love to take the credit for that, but it was not me.
Did you like the Traveler? I have a feeling I'll end up taking both a liner and something like the Traveler but was hoping for just one sleeping piece, like a Traveler with a hood. I'm going mid-fall and have had miserably cold and wet weather on past trips so want more than just a liner. Please let me know what you think of the Traveler! Thanks so much!
Consider September/October to be like April/May.Am walking in August and had planned on just bringing my sleeping bag liner . Am I going to need something warmer?
July and August are scotching hot, September just hot. April is perfect, early May as well, mid to late May you start feeling the sun.Consider August/September to be like April/May.
Am walking in August and had planned on just bringing my sleeping bag liner . Am I going to need something warmer?/QUOTE]
Hi, No worries for August with a liner. I'm going later and will likely run into chilly weather. Buen Camino!!
Nappy pins. They double as pegs on the washing line too.That down quilt from Costco is great and astonishingly cheap. I got one, too. I like your idea of attaching a sheet, but then you can't really wash the sheet during your camino unless you wash the down quilt with it, which I wouldn't want to do. I'm thinking maybe velcro or snaps? The down quilt does tend to slide off.
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