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don't think you can say that. We have no idea which route most pilgrims to Santiago took. Gotescalc will not have used the CF as we know it, for the simple reason that large chunks of it didn't exist at the time. He may have used the Roman roads, taken a coastal route, or have gone to a port such as Bordeaux or Bayonne and then by sea to Galicia; there's no way of knowing (and he was a bishop, not archbishop).sillydoll said:Gotescalco, archbishop of Le Puy - 950AD
or bothsillydoll said:You may be right - but then you may be crazy!
1. why believe he was correct? Those who have researched the roads in the medieval Massif Central don't find any evidence of a major E-W road from Le Puy; for example, Bautier http://www.saint-jacques.info/routes_XIIIe%20copie.jpg On what did Picaud (or whoever it was compiled the thing) base this claim? It clearly wasn't personal experience.sillydoll said:In c 1140 Aimery Picaud described a route from Le Puy to Spain, which one can be forgiven for thinking was the established route taken by the good Bishop and those who followed after him. Why believe otherwise?
yup; he bought the trail guide from Amazon, and downloaded maps at his local taberna internetica . . .sillydoll said:I agree that urban legends spread across the Net like webs to entangle us poor believers!
http://www.trentobike.org/bycountry_one/Spain.html (whilst discussing the camino Frances claims that he walked 'the trail')
that's correct. That's where the mention of Gotescalc comes from, though it implies that he went there on the way back. To be absolutely precise: BNF manuscript Latin 2855 http://mandragore.bnf.fr/jsp/afficherNo ... 2&idPere=8sillydoll said:Even the Rioja website at:
http://www.riojainternet.com/turismo/ri ... tiago.html - claims that he passed by the monastery of San Martin de Albelda which is in La Rioja region - then part of Navarre.
"In the National Library of Paris is a valuable manuscript coming from the La Riojan locality of Albelda de Iregua. It is dated 950 and in the prologue the monk writes of the peregrination to Compostela by de Gotescalco, French bishop of LePuy. He passed by the monastery of San Martin de Albelda. Given the early date, Gotescalco would be one of the first well-known pilgrim to travel to Santiago."
and none more so than London-Canterbury (though Chaucer's pilgrims didn't walk but rode - at a canter, presumably). However, I'm not sure the Church would like the idea of the Wife of Bath as a representative pilgrim; I think they might prefer someone a little more spirituallaurie said:one of the bugbears of walking pilgrims - the old Roman roads that became Mediaeval tracks are now buried under tarmac.
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