- Time of past OR future Camino
- Frances & Finisterre 05-07/22 Fran 26? d Nort 27?
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I wear compression socks on the flight for that. They're not that fun to wear, but they do work.Just wear your hiking sandalsWearing your Renegades won't give you enough foot room for swelling - which invariably happens to many of us on long overseas flights.
But if your boots/shoes can't handle the swelling that takes place on the plane, how can they handle the swelling that takes place when hiking 20+km/day for 100-800 km? Seems to me that if swelling is the issue, you probably should size up a bit more.Just wear your hiking sandalsWearing your Renegades won't give you enough foot room for swelling - which invariably happens to many of us on long overseas flights.
But if your boots/shoes can't handle the swelling that takes place on the plane, how can they handle the swelling that takes place when hiking 20+km/day for 100-800 km? Seems to me that if swelling is the issue, you probably should size up a bit more.
I absolutely agree with the thought here, however IMHO the difference would be that while walking on the Camino one is not so much stationary as when sitting in the plane seat for 8.5 hours. Yes of course there is always that "get up, stretch, move about the cabin"...but sometimes it is not as easy to do based on various circumstances. plus..i've seen people put their feet into a stream or pur some cold water from the bottle on them while taking a break.... dont think the flight attendant will appreciate the latter and THANKFULLY there shall be no formerBut if your boots/shoes can't handle the swelling that takes place on the plane, how can they handle the swelling that takes place when hiking 20+km/day for 100-800 km? Seems to me that if swelling is the issue, you probably should size up a bit more.
Except swelling while seated on a plane doesn't cause painful blisters making it difficult to walk. If your feet start swelling and you have to walk continue walking to the next town in shoes/boots that are now too small... that could ruin your Camino. And if your feet are swelling while you are walking - that doesn't always go away with dipping your feet in cold water. For many, the swelling just gets worse with time. Therefore - size up! (Our local podiatrist who walks the Camino regularly suggests 1 1/2 sizes larger for a long distance walk/hike). BTW, if you are worried about swelling on the plane - take compression socks!I absolutely agree with the thought here, however IMHO the difference would be that while walking on the Camino one is not so much stationary as when sitting in the plane seat for 8.5 hours. Yes of course there is always that "get up, stretch, move about the cabin"...but sometimes it is not as easy to do based on various circumstances. plus..i've seen people put their feet into a stream or pur some cold water from the bottle on them while taking a break.... dont think the flight attendant will appreciate the latter and THANKFULLY there shall be no former
in a weird way my mind works, I am reasonably prepared to deal with swelling while walking...but I just don't want to deal with it while flying.
Only eight or so hours! I dream of being that close. Well not really, I do enjoy living in Australia and don't plan to change that, but with 16-17 hour flights now the norm, your question about flight footwear is germaine.on a 8+ hr flight
I have a lot of sympathy for our Mates in the 'down under'. I remember the travel time from the departing station in Oakland California to Vietnam (and then back) at around 16 hours one-way when I was 19 and 20. I cringe at the thought of having to fly to Europe from Australia or New Zealand to walk a Camino at my age today.Only eight or so hours! I dream of being that close. Well not really, I do enjoy living in Australia and don't plan to change that, but with 16-17 hour flights now the norm, your question about flight footwear is germaine.
exactly... and I just take them off if my feet get to warm...The shoes I wear to walk.
Me too, Dave! I would have to save my pennies or miles to upgrade ay my age.I have a lot of sympathy for our Mates in the 'down under'. I remember the travel time from the departing station in Oakland California to Vietnam (and then back) at around 16 hours one-way when I was 19 and 20. I cringe at the thought of having to fly to Europe from Australia or New Zealand to walk a Camino at my age today.
I love living in NZ, but agree with dougfitz. Its a really looonngg plane trip. We will spend over 24 hours in the air to get to Paris. The first leg is 17 hours, so the second one at 7 or 8 seems almost trivial.I have a lot of sympathy for our Mates in the 'down under'. I remember the travel time from the departing station in Oakland California to Vietnam (and then back) at around 16 hours one-way when I was 19 and 20. I cringe at the thought of having to fly to Europe from Australia or New Zealand to walk a Camino at my age today.
With the price of bringing another bag that would have to be put in the baggage compartment, it pays to weather your hiking boots. I have bought my ticket for May 19th and Air Canada wanted 150.00 to have an extra bag that needs to be stored in baggage so I will just carry my backpack on the plane which is allowed as long as it fits over luggage on the plane. Just think of the clothes I can buy in Madrid for saving the 150.00. Bueno CaminoI wear Renegades myself, for years, and have had no problem wearing them for long flights.
Usually, I just untie them after I settle into my seat then loop the laces around my ankle before tucking the remainder down into the boot.
This approach is serviceable enough (for me!) for any walking around the cabin.
Buen Camino,
B
We ware the same shoes we're going to be living in for the next month. More shoes is more weight. It doesn't make sense to buy a pair of shoes and then throw them away when she get off the plane.OK...did a bit of the search but did not find any previous posts so here it goes:
What footwear do you wear on the plane flying to Camino?
Coming from US on a 8+ hr flight I dont think I'd be very happy having my Renegades on
I am also bringing hiking sandals and "albergue slippers" .... so would the former be a good contender for the task?
I REALLY do not wish to bring any other pair footwear and I don't prescribe to "use and throw away" mentality (i.e. buy a cheap pair of... wear it on the plane... toss it once arrived)
So, esteeemed Members - your thoughts and personal experiences\preferences?
Merci beaucoup
They they are helpful in maintaining blood circulation especially on Long flights. They are inexpensive and worth the money.Hmmm... perhaps i should invest in the compression socks. never entertained the idea before but may have a merit
I always wear my pair of walking Camino trailrunners on the plane and my lightweight flat sandals for after showering go in my pack. I seriously never bring three pairs.Also for women he says you should always wear flats.
I bring two pair of shoes. My walking Altra lone peak 5’s and my plastic Birkenstocks that weigh next to nothing. I usually wear my shoes then once in the airplane I switch to my Birks. It makes for easy slip on off to go to the washroom etc.OK...did a bit of the search but did not find any previous posts so here it goes:
What footwear do you wear on the plane flying to Camino?
Coming from US on a 8+ hr flight I dont think I'd be very happy having my Renegades on
I am also bringing hiking sandals and "albergue slippers" .... so would the former be a good contender for the task?
I REALLY do not wish to bring any other pair footwear and I don't prescribe to "use and throw away" mentality (i.e. buy a cheap pair of... wear it on the plane... toss it once arrived)
So, esteeemed Members - your thoughts and personal experiences\preferences?
Merci beaucoup
My lightweight sandals are crocs that can be worn in the shower and in the evening as well. Lightweight and I can walk in them a long way if I need to.I always wear my pair of walking Camino trailrunners on the plane and my lightweight flat sandals for after showering go in my pack. I seriously never bring three pairs.
Also, I always wear comfy flats on other touristy travels for walking through huge airports and city sightseeing. Heels?...no longer for me. That ship has sailed!
I also have a pair of these Birkenstock sandals which I have had had since my first Camino in 2016. I still wear them at home, but they are not as comfortable to me as the crocs for longer walking.I bring two pair of shoes. My walking Altra lone peak 5’s and my plastic Birkenstocks that weigh next to nothing. I usually wear my shoes then once in the airplane I switch to my Birks. It makes for easy slip on off to go to the washroom etc.
Going former ER nurse here……..vascular surgeons recommend Ted socks or compression socks for flights over 4 hrs. They are light weight, easy to wash and store, and can be valuable for any related foot, ankle, shin swelling along the way.
The shoes I will walk in.OK...did a bit of the search but did not find any previous posts so here it goes:
What footwear do you wear on the plane flying to Camino?
Coming from US on a 8+ hr flight I dont think I'd be very happy having my Renegades on
I am also bringing hiking sandals and "albergue slippers" .... so would the former be a good contender for the task?
I REALLY do not wish to bring any other pair footwear and I don't prescribe to "use and throw away" mentality (i.e. buy a cheap pair of... wear it on the plane... toss it once arrived)
So, esteeemed Members - your thoughts and personal experiences\preferences?
Merci beaucoup
And yet, (as I say to my family in Texas who refuse to visit me in Oz, "because it's just so far away"), and yet, here I am visiting you in Dallas! But, nowadays, forget Dallas, I will fly non-stop 14 hours, then another 6 or 7, to walk a Camino/Chemin - and feel privileged to do so. And, definitely wear compression socks during those flights!I have a lot of sympathy for our Mates in the 'down under'. I remember the travel time from the departing station in Oakland California to Vietnam (and then back) at around 16 hours one-way when I was 19 and 20. I cringe at the thought of having to fly to Europe from Australia or New Zealand to walk a Camino at my age today.
I cannot stand compression socksAnd yet, (as I say to my family in Texas who refuse to visit me in Oz, "because it's just so far away"), and yet, here I am visiting you in Dallas! But, nowadays, forget Dallas, I will fly non-stop 14 hours, then another 6 or 7, to walk a Camino/Chemin - and feel privileged to do so. And, definitely wear compression socks during those flights!
I have helped my brother put on his compression socks a few times when I've visited him and it is difficult, akin to wrestling pigs.I cannot stand compression socks
But it is pretty close to sterile when it gets thereThat's not water on the bathroom floor
I only go with walking boots/shoes (depending on time of year/Camino) and flip flops for evening, I always wear the walking gear on the flight a d just undo the laces.OK...did a bit of the search but did not find any previous posts so here it goes:
What footwear do you wear on the plane flying to Camino?
Coming from US on a 8+ hr flight I dont think I'd be very happy having my Renegades on
I am also bringing hiking sandals and "albergue slippers" .... so would the former be a good contender for the task?
I REALLY do not wish to bring any other pair footwear and I don't prescribe to "use and throw away" mentality (i.e. buy a cheap pair of... wear it on the plane... toss it once arrived)
So, esteeemed Members - your thoughts and personal experiences\preferences?
Merci beaucoup
Gucci for men and Ferragamo heels for women.
I always wear my trail runners. Just have those and some super lightweight Toms that I wear at night.
My next door neighbor was a pilot. At dinner one night when my family and I were traveling to Europe he told us to always wear shoes or sneakers on a plane and never wear any clothes that may stick to your skin in extreme heat. He is a pilot and stresses safety but he says in case of an emergency and you have to depart a plane quickly you never know what is on the floor or how hot it will be. Of course this is an extremely rare occurrence but you never know. Also for women he says you should always wear flats.
Agree! I too, exercise on the plane. One of the best times (at night) to exercise going East on transatlantic flights on UA in Tourist class is when the flight attendants use those reserved seats in the back of the plane with the curtain around them. Most passengers are unsuccessfully attempting to sleep in the darkened cabin then. The galley in the back is often unsupervised at that time and I can really stretch for a good 15 minutes without interruption.I cannot stand compression socks
On flights, I do ankle and leg exercises periodically while seated to keep my circulation going and edema from occurring. I will also stand and walk to the forward or rear bathroom areas and do some squats and toe raises. I do the same at home if I have to sit for any length of time.
For those concerned about DVT (Deep Vein Thrombosis), from prolonged sitting while traveling, these are some recommended things that can help:
The current medial advice is to not use aspirin for it's purported anti-clotting properties unless it is already a physician prescribed therapeutic.
- wear loose, comfortable clothes
- do calf exercises at least every half hour – raise your heels, keeping your toes on the floor, then bring them down 10 times. Then raise and lower your toes 10 times
- walk around whenever you can
- drink plenty of water
- do not drink alcohol or take sleeping pills
Absolutely. I didn't wear them on my way to Spain for the Camino, and my ankles swelled up--for six weeks! Horrible pain, but I made it. I even wear them on domestic flights now. Why take chances?I wear compression socks on the flight for that. They're not that fun to wear, but they do work.
I always get an aisle seat also but I spend extra to get an exit row aisle seat for more leg room. It is an 11 hour flight to Madrid and I am 6'2" (1.89) and I barely have room to sit and if the person in front puts their seat back I am dead.Agree! I too, exercise on the plane. One of the best times (at night) to exercise going East on transatlantic flights on UA in Tourist class is when the flight attendants use those reserved seats in the back of the plane with the curtain around them. Most passengers are unsuccessfully attempting to sleep in the darkened cabin then. The galley in the back is often unsupervised at that time and I can really stretch for a good 15 minutes without interruption.
I always reserve an Isle seat so I can get up frequently and walk. Sitting, I do toe raises, slight calf raises, ankle rotations, neck rolls, and shoulder rolls almost every hour, unless I doze off. In the galley, I step in place, swing my arms extending them over my head, and to the sides shifting weight from foot to foot. I do bend…hand to toes, thigh lifts, toe lifts, and other low impact stretching for as long as I am able to without interruption. Then, I get a glass of juice and return to my seat.
Your airline gives you some thing for free???????? Which airline is it--I wanna sign up!Its the one thing I dread about my Camino is the long haul flight from Australia. I take my Keens off and wear the free airplane socks to walk about the cabin. Dump them at the end.
Best when putting on compression socks is to have your feet/legs elevated for 10 minutes or so, and then without swinging your legs below your heart, roll on the socks. You don't want to trap any edema around your legs and feet.Hmmm... perhaps i should invest in the compression socks. never entertained the idea before but may have a merit
I, too, do not want to take up space in my pack with boots, so I wear those when traveling to the plane, wearing thin socks. Once we are underway, I remove them and pop on my flip flops (which I wear around the albergue), wearing the socks to keep my feet warm. As mentioned by others, there's no way I would go barefoot or in socks on a plane or in its loo.OK...did a bit of the search but did not find any previous posts so here it goes:
What footwear do you wear on the plane flying to Camino?
Coming from US on a 8+ hr flight I dont think I'd be very happy having my Renegades on
I am also bringing hiking sandals and "albergue slippers" .... so would the former be a good contender for the task?
I REALLY do not wish to bring any other pair footwear and I don't prescribe to "use and throw away" mentality (i.e. buy a cheap pair of... wear it on the plane... toss it once arrived)
So, esteeemed Members - your thoughts and personal experiences\preferences?
Merci beaucoup
I only take one pair of footwear, which are currently my Hoka Bondi.
Yes, with Qatar and Emirates everyone gets a cute bag with socks, eye mask ,earplugs and small toothbrush and toothpaste. Toothbrush is a good size to take on the Camino.Your airline gives you some thing for free???????? Which airline is it--I wanna sign up!
The down side is that its an extremely long trip.Yes, with Qatar and Emirates everyone gets a cute bag with socks, eye mask ,earplugs and small toothbrush and toothpaste. Toothbrush is a good size to take on the Camino.
Hasn't put me off planning the next one though - cant wait to be back in SpainYes, nightmare flights, Anamiri.
They are the fabric mesh.Hi Dave
Are your Bondi's the leather upper or mesh upper version?
The reason I'm asking is uncertainty on my part over which Hoka's to choose.
Thanks
Graham
I really quite enjoy the planning phase too!!Hasn't put me off planning the next one though - cant wait to be back in Spain
Not likely!! They will be factored into the fare, so you are paying for them.Your airline gives you some thing for free???????? Which airline is it--I wanna sign up!
Don't forget the Qatar pack of goodies also has the little tube of lip balm...perfect size for Camino-carrying!Yes, with Qatar and Emirates everyone gets a cute bag with socks, eye mask ,earplugs and small toothbrush and toothpaste. Toothbrush is a good size to take on the Camino.
The "space down the back" sounds just like the Air New Zealand Boeing 747s around 1999-2002.Yes Bookgirl, I do put my shoes on for the toilet (that is what it says on the door, maybe your planes have rooms with baths). I do not clutter up the galley. The big planes that Emerates use (I think they are an Airbus something and carry about 500 passengers) have enough space right down the back (you can tell I am in the cheap seats) next to a couple of toilets and the entrance to the crew's quarters. There is a window on each side and I often spend time standing there looking out of the window. You can get right up to it and look almost straight down. One clear moonlit night we flew along the Himalayas with Everest and K2 lit up and looking fabulous.
No kidding? Even if you fly steerage?Yes, with Qatar and Emirates everyone gets a cute bag with socks, eye mask ,earplugs and small toothbrush and toothpaste. Toothbrush is a good size to take on the Camino.
Yes! Even cattleclass.No kidding? Even if you fly steerage?
Hahaha, if one cannot wear their walking shoes on the plane for 8 hours, they are the wrong shoes for walking 8 hours.OK...did a bit of the search but did not find any previous posts so here it goes:
What footwear do you wear on the plane flying to Camino?
Coming from US on a 8+ hr flight I dont think I'd be very happy having my Renegades on
I am also bringing hiking sandals and "albergue slippers" .... so would the former be a good contender for the task?
I REALLY do not wish to bring any other pair footwear and I don't prescribe to "use and throw away" mentality (i.e. buy a cheap pair of... wear it on the plane... toss it once arrived)
So, esteeemed Members - your thoughts and personal experiences\preferences?
Merci beaucoup
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