Peter Robins said:the FFRP can tell you all about GRs, but that's not the same thing as 'traditional Chemin St Jacques'.
Peter Robins said:
no, medieval roads in general are well documented, and broadly speaking remain much as they were. There is little doubt of the road from Paris, via Tours, Poitiers, Bordeaux etc - the main road then and the main road now. If you go to one of the online route finders and ask for Paris-Santiago, it will give you much the same route as the one in the Codex Calixtinus or for that matter as the Roman one - the main difference being the shift in the late Middle Ages from the Roncesvalles pass to the coastal road and the route via Tolosa and Vitoria. The main road from Dieppe was south to Rouen and Chartres, and this remains the main road today. It will have been used by English pilgrims to Chartres, though I would question how many pilgrims to Santiago went that way.Gareth Thomas said:If the classic Le Puy to SJPP route is no more 'traditional' than this, it's anyone's guess what should be the best route from Dieppe through western France, surely? It has been suggested that many traditional routes would have been buried under modern roads and motorways; but isn't it more accurate to say that nobody has any real idea where these routes went?
more or less any old road will have been used by some pilgrim at some time, so it really depends on what you mean by 'traditional'. In the pilgrimage context, for me the important thing is what you get out of your journey, what it means to you. If you find walking the GR65 or even Watling St rewarding or even uplifting, I don't see that it matters what its historical background is.Gareth Thomas said:we might just as well construct routes for our own individual convenience, and put aside our historical and spiritual scruples about keeping to apparently 'traditional' routes?
Peter Robins said:You may find some of the info on my website useful http://www.peterrobins.co.uk/camino/history_F.html
sillydoll said:Gareth, the CSJ guide "Paris to the Pyrenees" we used in 2004 gives a route from Chartres to Vouvray and from Orléans to Vouvray, and then from Vouvray to Bordeaux and all the way to Roncesvalles.
Peter Robins said:Vouvray is ... nowhere near Artenay.
oursonpolaire said:I walked the Toulouse-Somport stretch in 2005 and was astonished at how few villages in France had any facilities at all (cafe, bar, restaurant, inn, grocery, anything). If it were not for the cemetery standpipes which provided potable water, I'd likely still be in a ditch somewhere outside Olorons Sainte Marie. Some of the French-language guides (the oddly-named Miam Miam Dodo) will help, but there is nothing like a) being prepared and b) consulting with locals on this.
Thanks Ivar, I will be walking from Paris beginning on August 31st. Hoping to arrive in Santiago on November 11th.ivar said: