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Hello, I am interested to walk the full camino of all routes with average 20-25km per day. Do you know how much time do I need to invest? Like 1-2 years? How many km is the total camino? How much money do I need to prepare? This is the most important part. I need to save money to make this happens.Thanks. I am really interested to make this dream comes true. Is the Camino walk hard? Do I need to train and prepare for it? Can I just do the on site training? I am in the midst of doing the last 100km of Camino Frances and Finisterre route starting today from Sarria. What is the highest elevation of Camino walk? Is that anything above 5000 meters above sea level? Thanks.
Hi Shinta, when you say full Camino, which did you have in mind? The lengths, level of difficulty and cost will vary according to the route/s selected? Or did you have in mind to walk multiple different routes?Hello, I am interested to walk the full camino of all routes with average 20-25km per day. Do you know how much time do I need to invest? Like 1-2 years? How many km is the total camino? How much money do I need to prepare? This is the most important part. I need to save money to make this happens.Thanks. I am really interested to make this dream comes true. Is the Camino walk hard? Do I need to train and prepare for it? Can I just do the on site training? I am in the midst of doing the last 100km of Camino Frances and Finisterre route starting today from Sarria. What is the highest elevation of Camino walk? Is that anything above 5000 meters above sea level? Thanks.
Hello, thank you for the reply. I refer to all walks available in camino regardless of the country. I wonder if anyone has already have all this information on hand. If not is ok, don't bother.Hi Shinta, when you say full Camino, which did you have in mind? The lengths, level of difficulty and cost will vary according to the route selected? Or did you have in mind to walk multiple different routes?
Did you plan to walk in Spain, or to start further out and link routes together, eg, Le Puy - Frances - Finisterre?
Hello, it is my dream to walk to all caminos available regardless of routes and countries for at least once. I wonder if there are people of same interest, maybe we can make a group and do it together? I will of course first need to save money for that. Maybe if there are people interested, we can form a group and we start this journey together like 2 years from now.Hi Shinta, when you say full Camino, which did you have in mind? The lengths, level of difficulty and cost will vary according to the route/s selected? Or did you have in mind to walk multiple different routes?
Did you plan to walk in Spain, or to start further out and link routes together, eg, Le Puy - Frances - Finisterre?
Edited to add - are you able to stay in Spain longer than the allowed Schengen days?
Thanks. Is that 5 years or 10 years 15 years? I am 44 this year. How much money to make this happen if I do it on budget?A lot longer than one to two years.
Here's a map of some of tgeCamino routes. This doesn't include the routes starting in Germany, Poland, Russia, Denmark...
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You are currently on the Camino, are you not? After you finish you can extrapolate costs from this short trip.Thanks. Is that 5 years or 10 years 15 years? I am 44 this year. How much money to make this happen if I do it on budget?thanks.
Yes on Camino. Just wondering if eur200,000 be enough or need eur1,000, 000?You are currently on the Camino, are you not? After you finish you can extrapolate costs from this short trip.
This is a "how long is a piece of string?" question. No one can accurately answer it.Yes on Camino. Just wondering if eur200,000 be enough or need eur1,000, 000?
I am only allowed to stay in Spain for 90 days for now. I will find out more about visa for Singaporean. I don't mean to do it now. I mean this is a dream. It may not come true too, it is ok. I am just wondering if anyone here has the same thoughts with me or have done that.Hi Shinta, when you say full Camino, which did you have in mind? The lengths, level of difficulty and cost will vary according to the route/s selected? Or did you have in mind to walk multiple different routes?
Did you plan to walk in Spain, or to start further out and link routes together, eg, Le Puy - Frances - Finisterre?
Edited to add - are you able to stay in Spain longer than the allowed Schengen days?
No such inventory exists. There is no organization that manages all of the routes that we call "the Camino."I refer to all walks available in camino regardless of the country.
Nobody has had such thoughts or done that.I am only allowed to stay in Spain for 90 days for now. I will find out more about visa for Singaporean. I don't mean to do it now. I mean this is a dream. It may not come true too, it is ok. I am just wondering if anyone here has the same thoughts with me or have done that.
And is that just the routes to Santiago? If so, there are many other pilgrimage routes in Spain, leave aside the rest of Europe, and the rest of the world, that do not proceed to Santiago.HI!
Searched Google came up with this!
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How many Camino de Santiago routes are there?
Although the Camino begins at each pilgrim's own door, over the centuries, a number of main routes have been pinpointed. There are currently 281 Caminos listed, encompassing more than 51,500 miles of routes through 29 different countries.
Buen Camino
and good luck
Woody
Oh yes, the pilgrimage routes to Rome! Now there is an area that is still in its infancy. So many Caminos to rediscover and develop!The via Francigena may be just pushing it at the limit of the 90 days
51500 miles = 82881 kilometersAlthough the Camino begins at each pilgrim's own door, over the centuries, a number of main routes have been pinpointed. There are currently 281 Caminos listed, encompassing more than 51,500 miles of routes through 29 different countries.
About three days and €12.Hello, I am interested to walk the full camino of all routes with average 20-25km per day. Do you know how much time do I need to invest? Like 1-2 years? How many km is the total camino? How much money do I need to prepare? This is the most important part. I need to save money to make this happens.Thanks. I am really interested to make this dream comes true. Is the Camino walk hard? Do I need to train and prepare for it? Can I just do the on site training? I am in the midst of doing the last 100km of Camino Frances and Finisterre route starting today from Sarria. What is the highest elevation of Camino walk? Is that anything above 5000 meters above sea level? Thanks.
About five years ago there was a thread about the cost of doing the Francés. I remember the cost for retirees averaging about 35€ per person per day because that is what we averaged for about eight weeks. Mostly for albergues and pilgrim meals but including some fancier things too.About the cost, I was happy on 25 Euros per day expenses, then my wife joined me and it went to >100 euros a day for the two of us. So, the cost will range entirely based on your comfort level desires. I could imagine 15 euros at the lowest, but I didn't test it
The answer is yes and no. Does it help to train the answe is of course but can you do it without training the answer is again of course. Take it easier in the beginning so you don’t do damage to yourself initially as your body gets use to the rhythm. The cost has so many variables but figure either side of 30 Euros a dayHello, I am interested to walk the full camino of all routes with average 20-25km per day. Do you know how much time do I need to invest? Like 1-2 years? How many km is the total camino? How much money do I need to prepare? This is the most important part. I need to save money to make this happens.Thanks. I am really interested to make this dream comes true. Is the Camino walk hard? Do I need to train and prepare for it? Can I just do the on site training? I am in the midst of doing the last 100km of Camino Frances and Finisterre route starting today from Sarria. What is the highest elevation of Camino walk? Is that anything above 5000 meters above sea level? Thanks.
Wow... this is a question that is hard to quantify in order to answer correctly. What do you constitute a full Camono? And What "all routes" are you considering?Hello, I am interested to walk the full camino of all routes with average 20-25km per day. Do you know how much time do I need to invest? Like 1-2 years? How many km is the total camino? How much money do I need to prepare? This is the most important part. I need to save money to make this happens.Thanks. I am really interested to make this dream comes true. Is the Camino walk hard? Do I need to train and prepare for it? Can I just do the on site training? I am in the midst of doing the last 100km of Camino Frances and Finisterre route starting today from Sarria. What is the highest elevation of Camino walk? Is that anything above 5000 meters above sea level? Thanks.
Building on Woody66's and Pathfinder075's responses, probably a bit more than ten years. Trusting on the six years of walking that Pathfinder075 came up with and remembering that most of the routes are probably in the Schengen which means, as was pointed out above, you can only walk half the time, and figuring that you will probably wants some breaks on the time that you are walking, and may need to walk some bits multiple times on your different treks, I'm guessing 12-15 years is probably minimum. I notice Rick above did different math than Pathfinder075 and came up with 20 years.Don't know for total length of time to do them all, maybe 10 years, as a figure? Assuming you walk 25km everyday and you were following Woody66's 281 caminos, that gives roughly 6 years of walking, maybe 10 years if you throw in breaks and not actually walking 25km every day. TBH it sounds like you are going to prison for 10 years. How someone could do that and find it enjoyable I don't know.
As for cost, 15-20 euros a day is easy to do. Buy your food from supermarkets, eat a lot of salad, maybe carry a small stove and pan, buy pasta, chorizo and something green like rocket, some tomato puree and you have tomato pasta dinner wkith chorizo everyday. A couple of cans of cheap strong beer (Dia supermarkets do an 8% beer that was 40 cents a can a few years back and is probably still quite cheap) and you can stay on Camino forever if you wanted. Not sure I would want to. You might want to try the Francigena first and then decide on whether you want to go full blown crazy. Still you definitely have a big set for even contemplating such a nuts level idea like this.
Training for it, I wouldn't bother. The fact you are able to efficiently contemplate walking 52000 miles, means you probably don't need to train.
Buen Camino.
Yeah, sorry i should have clarified, that is 15-20 euros in Spain. France is indeed much more expensive, other countries further North even more so.I'm going to disagree with Pathfinder075's 15-20 euros a day suggested budget. Not everywhere will permit wild camping.
I was going to reply but I totally concur with your comments.A lot of questions here. When you say "the full camino of all routes" it is a bit difficult to know exactly what you mean. This website has many of the routes on it, but not all. To work our how much time it would take to walk all those routes you would need to add up the total kilometres and do some maths, and allow days for travel from one route to another and for rest days. I don't think anyone on this forum can do that for you.
The cost will depend on how you propose to live. If you think you would be camping with a tent then it will be a lot less than if you are staying in luxury accommodation. Members of the forum can probably give you a daily amount of their own expenses.
As to your questions about training, preparing, and elevation, I think you would need to work that out yourself.
And if you add the inflation you will encounter by year 10, the costs will be even higher. And if you dont move to Europe - the flights into and out of the EU every alternate 90 daysInteresting thought. So I had to run some very rough numbers........
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I think you'd need to move to Europe and give up working!
...and/or become a mendicant, a gyrovague or a whizz at financial investment...Interesting thought. So I had to run some very rough numbers........
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I think you'd need to move to Europe and give up working!
Definitely moving to Europe seems the way to pursue this dream (on a visa that doesn't impose the Schengen limits). Besides avoiding the costs of the frequent flights, it removes the "only 90 days out of every 180" limit allowing you to focus on your goal and complete it twice as fast.And if you add the inflation you will encounter by year 10, the costs will be even higher. And if you dont move to Europe - the flights into and out of the EU every alternate 90 days
Hmmm.Interesting thought. So I had to run some very rough numbers........
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I think you'd need to move to Europe and give up working!
Now you’re giving me an IDEAAAAAAGet EU residency, start a foundation, pay yourself to paint yellow arrows. Problem solved. You're welcome.
YupThroughout the ages there have been pilgrims in Europe and other places who have chosen to live in a state of permanent transition, moving year after year from holy site to holy site. They leave their former lives for a very long time.
HI!
Searched Google came up with this!
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How many Camino de Santiago routes are there?
Although the Camino begins at each pilgrim's own door, over the centuries, a number of main routes have been pinpointed. There are currently 281 Caminos listed, encompassing more than 51,500 miles of routes through 29 different countries.
Buen Camino
and good luck
Woody
From Singapore to walk to Santiago is impossible.Nobody has had such thoughts or done that.
What a number of people have done or dream of doing is walking from their own home to Santiago. When you have finished walking from Sarria to Santiago and then to Finisterre why not start planning your Camino from Singapore to Santiago. Are you in Sarria now and about to do your first Camino steps? If so, then Buen Camino!
You could spend one night at Finisterre, then walk to Muxía over two days, spending the night in between in Lires.At first, I don't plan to go to Muxia. So I may have 3 nights at Finister. I may have to change plan. 3 nights at Finister maybe too long.
Difficult, yes, dangerous, yes, but once you get over the strait to Malaysia, it would technically be possible! However, if you have difficulty navigating, that would be a serious constraint.From Singapore to walk to Santiago is impossible.
I didn’t know you could camp with a tent. Is that true?A lot of questions here. When you say "the full camino of all routes" it is a bit difficult to know exactly what you mean. This website has many of the routes on it, but not all. To work our how much time it would take to walk all those routes you would need to add up the total kilometres and do some maths, and allow days for travel from one route to another and for rest days. I don't think anyone on this forum can do that for you.
The cost will depend on how you propose to live. If you think you would be camping with a tent then it will be a lot less than if you are staying in luxury accommodation. Members of the forum can probably give you a daily amount of their own expenses.
As to your questions about training, preparing, and elevation, I think you would need to work that out yourself.
You can sometimes camp with a tent.I didn’t know you could camp with a tent. Is that true?
No, it isn't. Very difficult but not impossible. It's all overland. Try to be in Siberia in the summer. You will need a lot of visas and would probably be crossing a war zone. The route is via Thailand, Vietnam, China, Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Germany, France.From Singapore to walk to Santiago is impossible.yes finishing my camino frances tomorrow. 1 day earlier. I have 7 full days spare to do Finister. At first, I don't plan to go to Muxia. So I may have 3 nights at Finister. I may have to change plan. 3 nights at Finister maybe too long.
Perhaps a more authentic pilgrimage, well travelled and lots of places to stay although some neglected over the last 1,000 or so years. A few camels recommended rather than a donkey, although less useful as you approach Europe.Another option would be the silk route.
Someone did walk the Le Puy route with a camel. I never saw it myself but it had a big impact on the hospis.Perhaps a more authentic pilgrimage, well travelled and lots of places to stay although some neglected over the last 1,000 or so years. A few camels recommended rather than a donkey, although less useful as you approach Europe.
I think many of us, when settled into the routine, get that ‘wouldn’t it be great if this just carried on forever’ feeling.This thread has a kind of weird fascination for me - occasionally I do think about taking permanently to the road and becoming a hobo. It lasts about 30 minutes before I realise that "freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose!"
Besides, think of the many discomforts. Our friend @shinta_narulita completed the last 100km into Santiago but is now unable to walk because of blisters.
I find that a bit of an unusual view. While we can discuss endlessly that a pilgrimage is not a hike, I see the ever increasing popularity of Camino walking evolve in parallel with the ever increasing popularity of outdoor walking during leisure time, at least around here where I live in the middle of the European continent. I wanted to read up a bit on data for my own pleasure but came instead across an article about the History of Walking (also known as wandern, wandelen, randonner, and I don't know the Spanish, is it caminar?) and thought I'd share a bit of it (translated, see below).long walks have been an essential aspect of the progress of civilisation
I've done a bit of research and I've never come across long term Schengen visas for travel or tourism. Only longer term visas for work, study, or residency. Can you help me out with where I can find more information about them? I'm thinking if I ever want to do the Via Francigena in one go, I might want to give myself a bit more than 90 days. (I know it is doable in 90 for may, but it would be pushing it for me and I like to have a bit of leeway.) Or maybe for the Camino from Geneva.The 90 day limit does not need to be a problem, long term Schengen visas are available.
There might be those, 'Paddy' Leigh Fermor would've been one, who would suggest that the entire purpose of a long walk was study and work - and/or avoiding bothI've done a bit of research and I've never come across long term Schengen visas for travel or tourism. Only longer term visas for work, study, or residency. Can you help me out with where I can find more information about them? I'm thinking if I ever want to do the Via Francigena in one go, I might want to give myself a bit more than 90 days. (I know it is doable in 90 for may, but it would be pushing it for me and I like to have a bit of leeway.) Or maybe for the Camino from Geneva.
Even now I know many people who wouldnt walk unless there was a purpose.I find that a bit of an unusual view. While we can discuss endlessly that a pilgrimage is not a hike, I see the ever increasing popularity of Camino walking evolve in parallel with the ever increasing popularity of outdoor walking during leisure time, at least around here where I live in the middle of the European continent. I wanted to read up a bit on data for my own pleasure but came instead across an article about the History of Walking (also known as wandern, wandelen, randonner, and I don't know the Spanish, is it caminar?) and thought I'd share a bit of it (translated, see below).
Walking when you don't have to do so for your living became popular about 150 years ago, at the end of the 19th century. And isn't the last sentence in the quoted extract true? Ask yourselves: Would YOU be walking in Spain if there were no transcontinental airplanes to take you there?
The history of walkingPeople have always been on the move on foot - to open up new hunting grounds, to transport goods, to look for work, to find pastures for their cattle or to wage war against neighbouring peoples with entire armies.For a long time, however, no one wandered just for fun. Walking was not a pleasure or a leisure activity, but a means to an end. And walking was part of the hard daily routine for those who could afford neither horse nor carriage.That only changed about 150 years ago. In the middle of the 19th century, a means of transport was gaining ground that made it possible for broad sections of the population to get from one place to another faster than ever before: the railway.People were no longer forced to do everything on foot - the way was paved for hiking as a conscious experience of nature.People became more mobile. Sundays no longer had to be spent in one's own village or town. From now on, people could travel to places that would have been almost inaccessible without the railway.
Residency would fit. Or Study. Camino history, anyone? If you have the money to support yourself you can go pretty much anywhere.I've done a bit of research and I've never come across long term Schengen visas for travel or tourism. Only longer term visas for work, study, or residency. Can you help me out with where I can find more information about them? I'm thinking if I ever want to do the Via Francigena in one go, I might want to give myself a bit more than 90 days. (I know it is doable in 90 for may, but it would be pushing it for me and I like to have a bit of leeway.) Or maybe for the Camino from Geneva.
There are several forum members who obtained long-term visa for Camino walking and for travelling in Europe. If memory does not fail me all them had a nationality that does not require a visa for stays shorter than 3 months. Here is one such thread:I've never come across long term Schengen visas for travel or tourism
The "proper" route would be through Jerusalem, Byzantium (which is still the name of the part of Istanbul around the Hagia Sophia), Greece, Rome and Italy, and so on. Either walk around the Adriatic or cross by ferry, the latter being the more traditional option.No, it isn't. Very difficult but not impossible. It's all overland. Try to be in Siberia in the summer. You will need a lot of visas and would probably be crossing a war zone. The route is via Thailand, Vietnam, China, Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Germany, France.
Yes, I hadn't thought of that one, I just surged to my keypad with the first one that came to mind as I was a little cross at being flat out contradicted. The "proper" route would probably be a little easier than the Siberian route, both for terrain and bureaucracy. How would the distances compare?The "proper" route would be through Jerusalem, Byzantium (which is still the name of the part of Istanbul around the Hagia Sophia), Greece, Rome and Italy, and so on. Either walk around the Adriatic or cross by ferry, the latter being the more traditional option.
For what it's worth, when I put Singapore to Jerusalem into Google maps, asking for walking directions, it routes me through Myanmar and India, with a tiny bit of Nepal (just the extreme southeast bit). It's 10,614 km for 2.150 hours of walking (at the speed Google expects you to walk).I suppose one would route via Myanmar and Nepal, which might pose the first major visa problems, not to mention how few authorised border crossings exist.
Not sure whether to start this comment with "Seriously" or not ...For what it's worth, when I put Singapore to Jerusalem into Google maps, asking for walking directions, it routes me through Myanmar and India, with a tiny bit of Nepal
As the Spartans said to the Athenians “if”.Residency would fit. Or Study. Camino history, anyone? If you have the money to support yourself you can go pretty much anywhere.
It doesn't work quite like that.Surely you can just get off the train and walk across the border then get another train.
Not that it makes much difference, but do we know if the OP is female/male/other/prefers not to say? It's all hypothetical anyway, and this thread has taken on a weird kind of self sustaining pseudolife, with the OP probably still treating their blisters in Santiago.Not sure whether to start this comment with "Seriously" or not ....
But, seriously, walking through Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq and Syria for a single female pilgrim from Singapore? That is not realistic, guys. @Barbara had the right idea: Bangkok, China and then simply follow the railway tracks until Paris and then the scallop shells from there. That might be just about doable.
As to the question about taking the train: not right now. As the man on seat 61 knows: All international trains to/from Moscow & Russia remain suspended until further notice. No trains at all now cross the Poland/Belarus or Finland/Russia border.
We do. Unless the OP asked the question about walking the Primitivo not for their own person but for another “solo female”; however, the context indicates that she asked for herself. I sometimes look at previous posts to get a bit of an idea of the background for a question so that my answers are not completely off the mark. Perhaps not everybody does that …Not that it makes much difference, but do we know if the OP is female/male/other/prefers not to say? It's all hypothetical anyway
No, currently looking for hot vegetarian food in Finisterre and Muxia.this thread has taken on a weird kind of self sustaining pseudolife, with the OP probably still treating their blisters in Santiago.
I wondered, too, how old the person was, mainly because the notion of such a grandiose idea to walk every camino there is; it seemed rather naive to me. I was surprised how it has evolved into 80 replies, although I have not read the majority of them.Not that it makes much difference, but do we know if the OP is female/male/other/prefers not to say? It's all hypothetical anyway, and this thread has taken on a weird kind of self sustaining pseudolife, with the OP probably still treating their blisters in Santiago.
How about Stonehenge to Iniskim Umappi? Via the Orkneys & Scandinavia obviously. Global warming will probably make the Bering crossing a bit of a challenge but then you'll need a boat for some of the other bits too...Anyone for Our Lady of Walsingham to Jerusalem? I could quite fancy cycling that one.
Very Interesting.No, it isn't. Very difficult but not impossible. It's all overland. Try to be in Siberia in the summer. You will need a lot of visas and would probably be crossing a war zone. The route is via Thailand, Vietnam, China, Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Germany, France.
That's the main countries, there are some short bits in other countries and an alternative route not going through Vietnam. You could go round Ukraine but it adds a substantial amount of walking. Another option would be the silk route. Get a big map.
The answer is, "How long is a piece of string, how fit you are & how much time you can devote to the walk? If you're travelling alone you might be more indulgent than in a group which might have deadlines to meet?Hello, I am interested to walk the full camino of all routes with average 20-25km per day. Do you know how much time do I need to invest? Like 1-2 years? How many km is the total camino? How much money do I need to prepare? This is the most important part. I need to save money to make this happens.Thanks. I am really interested to make this dream comes true. Is the Camino walk hard? Do I need to train and prepare for it? Can I just do the on site training? I am in the midst of doing the last 100km of Camino Frances and Finisterre route starting today from Sarria. What is the highest elevation of Camino walk? Is that anything above 5000 meters above sea level? Thanks.
If any of you have been to Jerusalem where would one obtain the sello (stamp) for the credential? The quoted statement has gotten me to thinking…I could start my Camino in the Holy City, boat from TelAviv to Lisbon, and walk to SdC. Wow! Now, where do I get my first stamp?1. I spoke to an unusually dressed man in Madrid - he had just arrived having walked from Jerusalem, and was on his way somewhere I forget, possibly Santiago. Reported also in the Spanish press.
There are no rules about who can put a stamp in your credencial; it is just a record that you were in a particular place at a particular time so people can and do get their stamps from hotels, albergues, bars, supermarkets, town halls etc as well as from churches and cathedrals along the way. But if you wanted an especially fitting stamp to start your pilgrimage you could go to one of the many Christian churches in Jerusalem. I am sure they would be more than happy to put the first stamp in what promises to be a very long credencial. Buen CaminoIf any of you have been to Jerusalem where would one obtain the sello (stamp) for the credential? The quoted statement has gotten me to thinking…I could start my Camino in the Holy City, boat from TelAviv to Lisbon, and walk to SdC. Wow! Now, where do I get my first stamp?
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