Yeah, but what a way to go - on a pilgrimage trail heading for transcendance! As my uncle used to say, "if you ain't got no dope, you ain't got no hope!" :wink: Of course, he was a child of the 60s and 70s, so stuff like that was par for the course.rafferty said:you are increasing your chance of a heart attack.
I took this stuff as well (Glucosamine, Chondroitin, and MSM) while on the Way. I've been using it since 1998, when I had the torn ACL rebuilt in my left knee. My other knee has been hammered as well, so I need all the preventative help I can get. I believe it works, at least psychologically.Arn said:Chris recommended that I try GLUCOSAMINE (HCL) (1500mg) and Chondroitin Sulfate (1200mg) tablets.
I've brought lots of vitamins and vitamin/mineral packs with me on three trips to Europe and two to Mexico without incident. On my Camino trip, just to prevent the possibility of an issue, I separated each type of vitamin into its own baggie, and then cut out part of the packaging label and put it into the baggie for easy identification (especially handy if a customs agent asks me, "what the heck is this?"). Even so, no one's ever questioned me about them, so perhaps they are trained well enough to know the difference.Arn said:Chris also recommended I go to Costco...where I was able to get the combined tablets...170 per bottle. I'm sure other outlets may have them also, i.e. Sam's Club, BJ's, etc.
On a different note: has anyone had any problem with getting medications through customs?
I've noticed that the "prescription" drug laws are different from nation to nation. In some countries, opiates can be purchased over the counter. That's one end of the spectrum...of course, but the other end is as well. Might there be a problem with Vitamin "I", or the G/C tablets?
Yeah, I'm kind of naughty that way - I need to be spanked! Good thing we're focusing on over-the-counter stuff here, although as you say, even those can be abused. But since life is 100% fatal, I can't bring myself to get overly anal about stuff like that.rafferty said:I would love a pound/euro/dollar for every patient I have treated with vinotintos cavalier attitude to prescription drugs
Well, someone on the Way told me that in the olden days, it was the drunkard pilgrims that tended to make it to Santiago - more so than their drier brethren. Guess the vino helped kill the pain and keep the nasties away. It certainly worked for me, especially since I avoided getting falling-down drunk...as the great philosopher Dirty Harry said, "a man's got to know his limitations." :wink:Arn said:maybe just chuck'em all and keep up with the vinotinto along the way.
Sounds interesting- I would like to find something similar in Britain. It would be also a great way to have more tasty drink than just water.MermaidLilli said:It is called "Emergen-C Joint Health", tangerine flavored. I put it in one of my water bottles and drank 1 each day. The box comes with 36 packets. It has Glucosamine 500mg and Chondroitin 400 mg, along with Vitamin C 1000mg and a bunch of other vitamins and minerals in smaller quantities.
Paracetamol is in the US Acetominaphen, brand name Tylenol. Motrin is a brand name for iboprophen.Rebekah Scott said:For non-Rx painkillers in Spain...I think in US it is called Motrin.
zakosdad said:It may thin the blood just as aspirin does so be careful and if you take a blood thinner i.e. warfarin, or clopidogrel,
Isn't this a sad situation ... modern drugs to help pilgrims hurry . :shock:marktqm said:... Ibuprofen ... The best solution: rest. The body will heal itself given enough time. (Unfortunately, pilgrims are always in a 'hurry' and believe they have to keep walking.)
BrianForbesColgate said:Isn't this a sad situation ... modern drugs to help pilgrims hurry . :shock:
Couldn't agree more max44. I am all for taking advantage of technical advancements such as modern kit to improve your experience and happily support ideas such as pack transfer services, pre-booking accommodation etc, but I find the idea of the continual daily use of high dose of pain killers and anti inflammatory medicine to be extraordinary.max44 said:I find it disturbing how cavalier some people are over putting chemicals into your body without knowing how they work. Your poor liver is really getting a work out filtering all these chemicals out. A lot of medications have been de scheduled in order to make them cheaper for a prescription.
And if you are not, reach for the ice and NSAIDs! :wink:May you be blessed with pain and injury free endeavours.
zakosdad said:Diclofenac is also an NSAID the dose is different. If travelling - although it is available almost everywhere, it would be smarter to bring with you - one less thing to worry about purchasing in a foreign country and then you know you have the correct dose. 200mg is for older children 400mg for small adults 600mg for average adults 800mg for larger adults or for severe pain. 800mg of ibuprofen will provide as much pain relief as a Tylenol w/codeine #3 or Vicodin 5mg
Adkison JD, et al. The effect of topical arnica on muscle pain. Ann Pharmacother. 2010 Oct;44(10):1579-84.
This was a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trial that enrolled 53 subjects. The goal of this study was to to determine whether topical Arnica montana cream could decrease subjective leg pain following calf raises. Each patient received two tubes of cream: one containing arnica and the other containing placebo. The creams were applied to the right or left calf (as directed by labels on the tubes) immediately after exercise, and again 24 and 48 hours post-exercise. Subjects used an analog scale to rate pain severity at baseline, and at 24, 48, and 72 hours after exercising. At 48 hours post-exercise, ankle range of motion and muscle tenderness were also measured. There were no significant differences in pain scores for the legs treated with the arnica or placebo creams at baseline. However, 24 hours post-exercise, pain scores for the arnica-treated legs were significantly higher than placebo (p<0.005). Pain scores for the arnica and placebo creams were not significantly different at 48 and 72 hours post-exercise. No significant differences in ankle range of motion or muscle tenderness were detected for the two treatments.
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