- Time of past OR future Camino
- Francés x 5, Le Puy x 2, Arles, Tours, Norte, Madrid, Via de la Plata, Portuguese, Primitivo
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I have a 10cm tear in the fascia under my heel.
Tell him your feet are smaller than his, so on him it would be the equivalent of 10cm!My husband tells me it is 7cm, not 10. But still big.
My husband tells me it is 7cm, not 10. But still big.
Because we've learned all the easy lessons already, by this stage of life. So it's only the hard lessons we have left to go. Ouch!But no, it seems I only learn by making mistakes.
Truer words were never said, Anemone.I think we check our brain out the instant we see the first yellow arrow.It just hurts too much to accept this walk is not for us this time.
Having walked about 500 miles, with my pack on and the shoes I will wear, I have hurt myself a few times. I know I can walk through a couple of things and have to stop if it is my feet, lower back or sciatic nerve. And I do mean stop for 2 to 3 days. I also know that uphill is a real issue for me. Turtle, slow turtle. Be the turtle rather than the hare.I'd be interested to hear if anyone's figured out how to tell the difference, without walking on to see if it will change?
As I understand it, there's 20% healing by 2 weeks, 80% healing by 6-8 weeks, and then complete healing by 12 weeks. Anyone here with real expertise (IOW, not me) might want to confirm that's what is really meant.% of what
I should also mention my friend Robyn, who was walking with me. She managed to trip and fall on her last day walking into Santiago, and badly injured her arm and had to be given opiates for the pain and transported to the Hospital by ambulance.... She was very lucky and had no breaks but severe nerve damage which took a month to heal.
Yes, it was a very eventful camino!
After 3 weeks walking the Vía de la Plata (10 days with pain) I was literally stopped in my tracks. There was no way that I could take another step. How I made it to the emergency ward of the hospital in Zamora is amazing. Outcome: 3 fractures (pelvis in 3 places on the left, tibial plateau on the right and a metatarsal fracture left foot). The trauma surgeon back home (evacuated by ambulance/plane) was dumbfounded to say the least. How was it possible to walk? You get the picture. Sometimes drastic events are required to change.
I look back at my surgery and 9 month rehabilitation process as a gift. In fact I remember the first 5 days in isolation (procedure from foreign hospital to avoid MRSA risk) was heaven. For the first time in a very long time I didn't (couldn't!) do anything but rest. I had time - and took the time - to reconnect with friends and family. People were amazed at how upbeat and relaxed I was despite being bedridden!
I have indeed learned to be 'milder' with myself and in turn with others. But I still sometimes need to be reminded.
Every painfree step for me is a gift. And every arrow I pass a reminder.
p.s. fractures were due to a combination of stress fractures and undiagnosed osteoporosis.
Well, the rest of us would be heartbroken. And that's not a joke.Maybe this is all part of a larger "curse on the moderators". I can think of a few forum members who might not be opposed to our demise, Kanga
I wonder how many of us fit this description, because it sounds eerily familiar, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.my physio asked, "do you have someone in your life who can give you limits? Because you don't have any!" He was right.
Since my first walk about 45 years ago I do the same, remove the boots and insoles and when it's hot the socks go aswell.Kanga your post will be very helpful for others, especially first-timers. So pleased it finally was diagnosed. I learned early on (from this forum), that even when my feet were not burning or hurting, about every 5/6 kms, I stopped, removed my boots and socks, just to allow the air. I did the same on my recent walk in Scotland.
As you stated the body ages.
We think that we still can conquer the world but we have to listen to our body.
Hope you will be better soon.
Wish you well,Peter.
You to Glenn.A personal lesson goes something like, "In my younger years I thought I was ten feet tall and bulletproof. Now I know that I'm neither." To be sure, Pain is a four-letter word. So is Life.
Be well.
Took me a good 6 months for my PF pain to go away...As I understand it, there's 20% healing by 2 weeks, 80% healing by 6-8 weeks, and then complete healing by 12 weeks. Anyone here with real expertise (IOW, not me) might want to confirm that's what is really meant.
And by the way the "6 week heal time" is a rule of thumb. IF you keep walking the body does not have time to heal.
You did the South Downs Way (in England?) and didn't stop by for a nice cup of tea and a piece of cake? Was it something I said?Oh, and we had a lovely time doing a "car camino" along the South Downs Way, and a cruise on the Baltic....
You did the South Downs Way (in England?) and didn't stop by for a nice cup of tea and a piece of cake? Was it something I said?
Hope you heal quickly, tread gently for a while.
So, on my 11th Camino you would think I had a bit of experience and good sense. But no, it seems I only learn by making mistakes. I post this in the hope that someone might read it and benefit.
On my first full day of walking, I started to feel pain under my right heel. Not too bad at first, so I ignored it. Walk through the pain, I thought. .....s!
Now I'm home I've had it properly diagnosed, with an ultrasound. I have a 10cm tear in the fascia under my heel. If I had but stopped, when I first started to feel the pain, I could have limited the damage. And maybe, after a couple of days of rest, been able to finish my camino.
I'm also much more conscious of the need to keep my feet flexible and strong by doing some stretching exercises as a preventative measure - in fact I think it would be good for my whole body. I know from the past that I am strong and have endurance, but the lesson from this camino is that flexibility is also important. And more important as the body ages and loses its natural elasticity.
So sorry to hear of your injury....
Wearing medium height heels for a couple of weeks fixed the problem! The weight transferred to the ball of the foot, off the heel. Relief was immediate and has stayed that way. Heels also kept the mileage down so the rest likely helped, too.
Now I'm not saying to break out the stilettos for physical therapy. Just found it interesting that something so simple worked so well. Wishing you happy and speedy healing!!
Ok, what did you have to google to find these heels?!Perhaps a pair of these are in order for the next Camino....
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Ok, what did you have to google to find these heels?!
Oh, my podiatrist also mentioned this is common in women after they hit 50. One of the many things we get to look forward to now.
Oh Rebekah!it couldn't have happened to a nicer person.
Go easy, friend.
A bit like a surgeon saying "don't worry, we won't amputate the whole arm; just from the elbow down . . . "My husband tells me it is 7cm, not 10. But still big.
Can you get them in a darker shade?Perhaps a pair of these are in order for the next Camino....
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Forgiven!@domigee and @Jeff Crawley I had no way of communicating with anyone at that stage, at least not easily. After the foot fiasco, Robyn falling and being carted off to hospital in an ambulance, and being stuck in Madrid during the BA fiasco (it really, really was an eventful camino!) I was happy to be led by the nose by my husband, who met me in the UK with a very gorgeous hired little SmartCar and a Plan.
I thought the South Downs (and about) was absolutely stunning and walking there would be magnificent.
No surgery planned. Some kind of magic machine that I haven't had explained yet. Probably a cortisone injection. And trying not to weight bear for a while - even though I stopped walking the camino, I followed it up with quite a bit of travelling and sightseeing so it has never really been rested properly.
point. People who were planters of rice , corn, beans were her patients thus plantar. She sent me cream. I would try anything. Now I am using magniesum, fish oil. B5 (500mg) vitaman c 1000mg. And stretching. Oh yes I am on the camino. Mad, now inverino. In roderio as I text. Streching my tendons. So its not gender specific.Maybe this is all part of a larger "curse on the moderators". I can think of a few forum members who might not be opposed to our demise, Kanga.Seriously, I am glad you are home safe and sound and now healing. Will you be using a walking cast or one of those little rollerboard scooter thing-ies that you kneel on with the injured leg?
I took with me a Strassburg Sock to wear at night try to avoid a second episode. Much more convinient than the boot when travelling.My question do they have you wearing a boot at night for stablazion? I have one in the states. Thinking of ordering one from Amazon delivered to vigo. Good luck and gods speed healing
Laurrie. Lol Mod's. karma revenge. Not.
That's what i NEED thank you!zI took with me a Strassburg Sock to wear at night try to avoid a second episode. Much more convinient than the boot when travelling.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AW3O00/?tag=casaivar02-20
Forgiven!
It is lovely walking and, in some parts, very Camino-ish.
A slice of fruit cake will be consumed in your honour after today's walk (only 8km but through wild open wheat fields on a lovely day).
Get well soon!
Any idea if I could get one thear in spainI took with me a Strassburg Sock to wear at night try to avoid a second episode. Much more convinient than the boot when travelling.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AW3O00/?tag=casaivar02-20
https://www.amazon.es/dp/B00JB2UDTQ/Any idea if I could get one thear in spain
Well, they do market socks for PF that are supposed to help keep the arch up, but am skeptical about what a piece of material can do to move such heavy tissue that much.Possibly an odd question.
Would wearing compression socks or hose help? Both to prevent or help healing?
Hi it helps butPossibly an odd question.
Would wearing compression socks or hose help? Both to prevent or help healing?
3-4 weeks to ship oh my
Perhaps contacting the company via email ans asking them?Hi it helps but
3-4 weeks to ship oh my
I have one of these. Tight at night.Well, they do market socks for PF that are supposed to help keep the arch up, but am skeptical about what a piece of material can do to move such heavy tissue that much.
Here is a link that may be of interest.
http://www.plantarfasciitisresource.com/best-plantar-fasciitis-socks/
It's an inflammation of the tissues. That's why oral anti-inflammatory medicines help to heal the problem. Nothing in that cream you mentioned is going to reduce the swelling. Stretching will help tremendously as will will Voltaren gel which is an anti-inflammatory.So sorry. And an ouch from this man. I have been dealing with of for several years. One doctor in Virginia believes its an infection of the tendons connecting
point. People who were planters of rice , corn, beans were her patients thus plantar. She sent me cream. I would try anything. Now I am using magniesum, fish oil. B5 (500mg) vitaman c 1000mg. And stretching. Oh yes I am on the camino. Mad, now inverino. In roderio as I text. Streching my tendons. So its not gender specific.
My question do they have you wearing a boot at night for stablazion? I have one in the states. Thinking of ordering one from Amazon delivered to vigo. Good luck and gods speed healing
Laurrie. Lol Mod's. karma revenge. Not.
Well, they do market socks for PF that are supposed to help keep the arch up, but am skeptical about what a piece of material can do to move such heavy tissue that much.
Here is a link that may be of interest.
http://www.plantarfasciitisresource.com/best-plantar-fasciitis-socks/
Dude, you are hard core. More power to you buddy.Thanks.Alaska. I've walked a bit in my day across the US. Ohio to San Diego.At. cost john Muir.Tahoe rim. Lost coast.Ohio to novascocia. Fla trail .long trail. Been dealing with feet a long time. The cream she made was an anti inflam. I also use oil of Oregon for anti. Walk in keen voyagers with prosteps, Berkinstock blues, with additional wedge arches. My prob is I wear flip flops 6 mints a year( live in virgin islands 6 months a year) then I walk spain for 3 months. Kick out some miles for an old geezer. Onion in sojcos at night most effective for me. I made me a sock. Some times I wear the flip taped to foot. Now if I could only spell. Kep on truck in. Light house trail for me again this year. Oh yes I carry 29 lbs. Tent stove the works.
I also have a ball with spikes that I take with me on C. What my podiatrist also recommended, is freezing a 500ml bottle of water and rolling the foot on it for 15 minutes or so. Difficult to do on Camino as water takes time to freeze, andnot all albergues have freezers. But they do have super cold tile floors, so I would brace myself and keep my poor foot on the cold floor for a few minutes during the afternoon/evening.It's supposed to provide massaging pressure. I was given a roller thingy to exercise with in order to massage the fascia. I will ask my podiatrist about this sock thing. She never mentioned it and so I too am skeptical.
Yeah, flipflops don't help. But Birkenstock makes plastic Madrids and Arizonas, with the arch it's known for. 35C$. A great deal.My prob is I wear flip flops 6 mints a year( live in virgin islands 6 months a year) then I walk spain for 3 months.
Can you get them in a darker shade?
At night you wear a boot or Strasburg sock keep your tendon strechin. Then when you first stand you don't agrevate. The inflamed area. What I. Have been told. I have a sock. Very tight. Prosteps makes it. ThanksIt's supposed to provide massaging pressure. I was given a roller thingy to exercise with in order to massage the fascia. I will ask my podiatrist about this sock thing. She never mentioned it and so I too am skeptical.
Or 39. With bunions.And sometimes you are really lucky and it starts at 48
So, on my 11th Camino you would think I had a bit of experience and good sense. But no, it seems I only learn by making mistakes. I post this in the hope that someone might read it and benefit.
On my first full day of walking, I started to feel pain under my right heel. Not too bad at first, so I ignored it. Walk through the pain, I thought. And continued to ignore it for about 15km. By which stage it was excruciating. I limped into the nearest village. Saw a doctor in a drop-in clinic whose recommendation was voltaren gel. Caught the bus. Had physiotherapy. Rested it for a couple of days. Tried walking again, after about 5km the pain just became too much; it felt like daggers were being thrust through my heel. Over the next month (not walking much, but still travelling the camino) it did not get better, in spite of further visits to physiotherapists, lots of stretching, icing, bandaging and orthotics. And three new pairs of shoes!
Now I'm home I've had it properly diagnosed, with an ultrasound. I have a 10cm tear in the fascia under my heel. If I had but stopped, when I first started to feel the pain, I could have limited the damage. And maybe, after a couple of days of rest, been able to finish my camino.
I'm also much more conscious of the need to keep my feet flexible and strong by doing some stretching exercises as a preventative measure - in fact I think it would be good for my whole body. I know from the past that I am strong and have endurance, but the lesson from this camino is that flexibility is also important. And more important as the body ages and loses its natural elasticity.
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