Nico "Carfield"
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- Reservations are not recommended. They have to be done 14 days prior to arrival...
Says the Dutch association that is sending hospitaleros overthere. Don't know why, there was no further explanation. (My post was edited by a moderator, I now see that the source of the statement was erased.)Says who? With the fancy online reservation system they've set up, I can't imagine they would then say it is not recommended to book. Where would the logic be in that?
I recieved the news that a part of the Alberque in Roncesvalles will be closed because the lack of the required permits. We hope this is a
temporary problem.
The campamento and a other sleepingplace is closed down! I don't know exactly why!
Totale beds are reduced with a lot of beds!! Still there are 220 available!
It is a big setback for this moment!
The next place is Burguete, about 3 km further and a easy path to walk.
Friday I start my volunteer work as hospitalero. If I know more I let you know!
This all can happen on your camino!
Nevertheless, Buen Camino!
It is sad and sometimes it's politics. The Government should know and realize The Camino is a source of revenue for most places.- This was a decision of the Gobierno of Navarra.
- The capacity that is left: Aterpea 183 beds, winteralbergue 34 beds (total 217).
- Compared to the numbers of 2016 this would mean that capacity won't be sufficient in about 1/3 of the days.
- Hospitaleros will stick to the rules of the Gobierno (fines are very high).
- Busses from Pamplona will be informed when the albergue is full, so new pilgrims can get off in Burguete.
- Reservations are not recommended. They have to be done 14 days prior to arrival.
- They will keep a few 'emergency beds' for 'problematic cases'.
- It is an unpleasant surprise for them as well, 'but we'll have to deal with it'.
Link to the statement (in Dutch): https://www.facebook.com/groups/SintJacobsRoute/772774892897700/
Edit: Nico, good to hear you are going to volunteer there though! I hope you'll still enjoy your time there. Must be hard to send exhausted pilgrims away...
I recieved the news that a part of the Alberque in Roncesvalles will be closed because the lack of the required permits. We hope this is a
temporary problem.
The campamento and a other sleepingplace is closed down! I don't know exactly why!
Totale beds are reduced with a lot of beds!! Still there are 220 available!
It is a big setback for this moment!
The next place is Burguete, about 3 km further and a easy path to walk.
Friday I start my volunteer work as hospitalero. If I know more I let you know!
This all can happen on your camino!
Nevertheless, Buen Camino!
Says who? With the fancy online reservation system they've set up, I can't imagine they would then say it is not recommended to book. Where would the logic be in that?
Again, says who? It is not written anywhere that reservations are not recommended.Maybe it's because people are tempted to book them don't turn up and don't cancel booking ... becomes confusing / disappointing / and stops others from getting a bed ....
Says the Dutch association that is sending hospitaleros overthere. Don't know why, there was no further explanation. (My post was edited by a moderator, I now see that the source of the statement was erased.)
Hola Mike!I aim to be in Roncesvalles on May 2nd. Probably early afternoon. Want three or four short days to ensure I get my Camino legs. Don't need to be stuffed around! Thanks to Nico, Luka and others who have posted factual info. It really helps! Cheers
I asked about this claim in the other thread but it has been closed and nobody can reply now. They have a sophisticated online booking system now, you pay by credit card, no restrictions concerning timing other than that you have to book at least one day before arrival and must cancel at least 24 hours before arrival. The booking is confirmed as soon as the credit card payment has gone through. If cancelled correctly, your payment is credited back to the credit card account within 15 days. All this is spelled out on their website.
I'm going to stop posting as I'm not writing live from the camino. I wish @Nico "Carfield" a safe trip to Roncesvalles and perhaps he can shed some light on this once he is there.
SintJacobsRoute is not the official FB group of the Dutch association, the genootschap group is the official FB group and their statement there does not mention anything about reservations whatsoever.
I feel for people who are just about to embark on their very first Camino trip. I wish them a good start, without unpleasant surprises during their first days, and reliable information.
May I ask what online booking system? Does anyone have the link? Thank you.
Thank YOU!!!!
Does the Albergue here also provide dinner and breakfast?I recieved the news that a part of the Alberque in Roncesvalles will be closed because the lack of the required permits. We hope this is a
temporary problem.
The campamento and a other sleepingplace is closed down! I don't know exactly why!
Totale beds are reduced with a lot of beds!! Still there are 220 available!
It is a big setback for this moment!
The next place is Burguete, about 3 km further and a easy path to walk.
Friday I start my volunteer work as hospitalero. If I know more I let you know!
This all can happen on your camino!
Nevertheless, Buen Camino!
Why are reservations not recommended?- This was a decision of the Gobierno of Navarra.
- The capacity that is left: Aterpea 183 beds, winteralbergue 34 beds (total 217).
- Compared to the numbers of 2016 this would mean that capacity won't be sufficient in about 1/3 of the days.
- Hospitaleros will stick to the rules of the Gobierno (fines are very high).
- Busses from Pamplona will be informed when the albergue is full, so new pilgrims can get off in Burguete.
- Reservations are not recommended. They have to be done 14 days prior to arrival.
- They will keep a few 'emergency beds' for 'problematic cases'.
- It is an unpleasant surprise for them as well, 'but we'll have to deal with it'.
Link to the statement (in Dutch): https://www.facebook.com/groups/SintJacobsRoute/772774892897700/
Edit: Nico, good to hear you are going to volunteer there though! I hope you'll still enjoy your time there. Must be hard to send exhausted pilgrims away...
Not regarding whether or not bookings are recommended but just an observation from my night at Roncesvalles on 24th March. Several pilgrims I had walked with believes they had booked (and paid) online, only to be told at check-in they had not.
It seems there is a "final confirmation" step in the booking process that, no matter how well or poorly highlighted, was missed by quite a few pilgrims. At that time of year space was not a problem but I imagine now that correctly completing a booking will become much more important. For Info only for those heading to Roncesvalles soon.
They take the fun out of scurrying round trying to find a bed.Why are reservations not recommended?
No. http://www.alberguederoncesvalles.com/index.php?idioma=2Does the Albergue here also provide dinner and breakfast?
The albergue takes reservations for dinner and/or breakfast at one of the two restaurants just outside the monastery complex. Last year the system was that you made a reservation when checking in, paid in advance for your meal and received a ticket for a particular time which you then handed over on arrival in the restaurant.Does the Albergue here also provide dinner and breakfast?
They take the fun out of scurrying round trying to find a bed.
No. http://www.alberguederoncesvalles.com/index.php?idioma=2
I wonder how a pilgrim from say 500 years ago would have commented on this thread??
I'm sure they would be burned alive if using such devilish thing as the internet. Especially in SpainI wonder how a pilgrim from say 500 years ago would have commented on this thread??
I wonder how a pilgrim from say 500 years ago would have commented on this thread??
Does the Albergue here also provide dinner and breakfast?
Throughout the day, a multitude of walkers come from different parts of the country and the continent, approach the place to get one of the beds before having to leave without one. During the early hours of the day, it seems easy to get one. At the end of the day, the situation changes.
Does anyone know what happened to the 900? Were they eventually dispersed into the local community or were they shipped back to their country of origin in some sort of repatriation deal?
And does anyone know why the reduction of some 70-80 (overspill) beds in Roncevalles has caused such ructions? Was it just a May Bank Holiday traffic jam? Is anyone in Roncevalles tonight listening to their breathing echoing in the vast emptiness or has the over-demand continued?
I have just tried to book a bed for tomorrow and succeeded.
Not regarding whether or not bookings are recommended but just an observation from my night at Roncesvalles on 24th March. Several pilgrims I had walked with believes they had booked (and paid) online, only to be told at check-in they had not.
It seems there is a "final confirmation" step in the booking process that, no matter how well or poorly highlighted, was missed by quite a few pilgrims. At that time of year space was not a problem but I imagine now that correctly completing a booking will become much more important. For Info only for those heading to Roncesvalles soon.
Nico. John Briscoe here from the Australian Pilgrims on the Camino FB group. Can you let us know how the accommodation situation is going?I recieved the news that a part of the Alberque in Roncesvalles will be closed because the lack of the required permits. We hope this is a
temporary problem.
The campamento and a other sleepingplace is closed down! I don't know exactly why!
Totale beds are reduced with a lot of beds!! Still there are 220 available!
It is a big setback for this moment!
The next place is Burguete, about 3 km further and a easy path to walk.
Friday I start my volunteer work as hospitalero. If I know more I let you know!
This all can happen on your camino!
Nevertheless, Buen Camino!
Do you think it's crazy just to hope for the best after Roncesvalles and not book anything else? I would like to walk till I'm tired and then stop somewhere. Is that a stupid idea knowing how crowded it is getting? Thank you for your thoughts. (60-year old woman walking alone)
yes, i got that message also, but go back to the calendar and play around with it. when i checked the calendar, it had a weird date set, so i tried it a couple more times and eventually it did work.Has anyone else received this message when trying to book? "la fecha indicada está fuera de temporada"
Tried several times to reserve for Sat May 6th, but struck out. I could understand if it was full, but "out of season"??
I had the same experience and eventual the calendar worked and I've paid and received confirmation.yes, i got that message also, but go back to the calendar and play around with it. when i checked the calendar, it had a weird date set, so i tried it apcouple more times and eventually it did work.
I had the same experience and eventual the calendar worked and I've paid and received confirmation.
When I first tried the calendar was not presenting the correct day, month, year. If I remember properly it was "ghosting" part of the date iutside the calendar box. I then got that Spanish message saying that I couldn't book for that date. I also thought it was too early and tried different dates. Once the calendar showed the correct format, it accepted, sent request for payment and an email confirmation of booking and payment. Good luckI keep getting this message as well. I am trying to book it for Aug 11 2017, and no matter what i try, I keep getting the same message. I have tried "playing around with the calendar" like 30x now, and still nothing. What exactly did you do? I have tried other dates as well, June 12, Aug 12 etc, and all the same.
We have time, so I'll keep an eye on it, maybe it will work tomorrow.
Thanks!
Has anyone had trouble making a reservation for the Roncesvalles albergue? I've tried two different cards, my mom tried two of her cards; all were rejected. I know my bank is not blocking it as I called them to check. Hoping my email contact with them might help...
So, now I got the calendar properly displaying dates finally, after refreshing the page several times. But now I seem to be stuck at the payment portion of it. Its like an online obstacle course.. It keeps denying my payment info. I have tried other cards, I have called my card company to make sure they are not blocking it. They didn't see or know about anything. Any advice? I'll keep trying I guess.
cheers,
This is exactly what happened to me last night. I could show that I had paid and I had a confirmation number but no email so bad luck: they absolutely would not budge.Not regarding whether or not bookings are recommended but just an observation from my night at Roncesvalles on 24th March. Several pilgrims I had walked with believes they had booked (and paid) online, only to be told at check-in they had not.
It seems there is a "final confirmation" step in the booking process that, no matter how well or poorly highlighted, was missed by quite a few pilgrims. At that time of year space was not a problem but I imagine now that correctly completing a booking will become much more important. For Info only for those heading to Roncesvalles soon.
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