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The Spanish authorities have announced that from June 7, the country will allow entry for Americans and other travellers from all over the world who have undergone the vaccination process using one of the vaccines approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA).Hello to all. Do any of you there in Spain know whether in fact travelers from the US who are fully vaccinated will be allowed to fly in starting June 7? If so will prior 72 hourPCR be required? I read conflicting information last night, saying no, and freaked a little. I got a flight for June 9 booked to do a “ snack” Camino & Oseira monastery retreat. Thought? Facts? Gracias!
Aymarah
Yes, I have a flight the 7th. Luckily with airline miles so can all be returned to my account but all the reservations I made.... If I'm reading it right, we can't enter now until the 30th..This is the notification I encountered last night.
It can\t hurt to double check the info the airline gave you. They should know but maybe not.You need to consult the government websites of [...] Spain and not go by anything else.
CHECK YOUR FLIGHT CONNECTIONS!!.
AA informed me I would have to have a test before boarding in Dallas AND upon touch down in Madrid per Spain law. Absolutely preposterous and makes no scientific sense,
2- COVID testing must be done TWICE. AA informed me I would have to have a test before boarding in Dallas AND upon touch down in Madrid per Spain law. Absolutely preposterous and makes no scientific sense, but it is what it is. For return, just one test to enter US as before.
Are you vaccinated? When was your flight scheduled? Currently it is not June 7th yet? Could still be be-old rules?Update. Just spoke with American Airlines as my trip has now been cancelled/rebooked twice and an third time with *no* notice of major change. Yikes. I am flying Denver-Madrid in late June.
1- Spain is now only allowing USA entry from certain cities. I was bumped out of Charlotte and now must fly thru Dallas, as Charlotte is not an 'accepted' city by Spain. CHECK YOUR FLIGHT CONNECTIONS!!.
2- COVID testing must be done TWICE. AA informed me I would have to have a test before boarding in Dallas AND upon touch down in Madrid per Spain law. Absolutely preposterous and makes no scientific sense, but it is what it is. For return, just one test to enter US as before.
As always, evolving. Keep the faith. Hope this helps
I believe that states the rule that has been in effect and will be in effect until June 7.I do not read Spanish and must rely on Google Translate to try to understand these documents. Could somebody please have a look at this form https://www.boe.es/diario_boe/txt.php?id=BOE-A-2021-8972? The link is found on the Travel Safe website (https://travelsafe.spain.info/en/) when I looked up travel restrictions for USA travelers. I quote from Travel Safe: "
At this time it is not allowed to travel to Spain from this country except for exceptional reasons (see exceptions here, only in Spanish).
Important: restrictions have been extended until June 30, 2021. See here the information (only in Spanish). From 7th June, new rules are allowed for international cruises (see information here, only in Spanish). "
I'm guessing this means that Americans can't leave on June 7th????
Thanks.The Spanish authorities have announced that from June 7, the country will allow entry for Americans and other travellers from all over the world who have undergone the vaccination process using one of the vaccines approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA).
Nonetheless, everyone will still be required to present a negative COVID-19 test result upon entry, SchengenVisaInfo.com reports.
Vaccinated travellers should prove that they have received all the required vaccine doses at least 14 days before entering Spain.
In contrast, travellers from countries that are part of the Coronavirus safe countries’ list will be allowed entry without even having to submit a negative test result. Japan, Australia, and New Zealand are some of the countries included on the list.
Moreover, the Spanish authorities announced that they would allow entry to unvaccinated children as well, provided that they are travelling together with their vaccinated parents. Nonetheless, this does not apply to children over the age of six as they still need to present a negative COVID-19 test result.
Following the announcement from Spain, United Airlines disclosed that from June, they would resume their service of five flights a week between New York/Newark and Barcelona, and their six times a week flight service between New York/Newark and Madrid.
The airline company also plans to increase flights all over Europe, reaching countries that are to welcome travellers from the US.
Similarly, American Airlines also plans to double its flight services to Spain during June. The carrier is currently operating two flights to Spain daily, from Miami International Airport to Barcelona and from Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport to Madrid.
Spain’s travel and tourism sector, which heavily relies on foreign travellers and is a key driver of the country’s recovery, has suffered severely from the COVID-19 pandemic. In 2020 foreign tourism of Spain registered a drop of 80 per cent due to preventative restrictions in Europe and all over the world.
However, as for 2021, Spain’s Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez expects that with the revival of the travel and tourism sector, the country’s GDP will also benefit and allow arrivals to reach up to 70 per cent of pre-pandemic levels by the end of the year.
It is forecasted that this summer’s arrivals could reach somewhere between 30 to 40 per cent of levels of 2019.
Previously, Spain abolished its entry restrictions for all travellers from the UK, meaning that Britons will no longer be subject to quarantine and testing requirements.
The head of the European Commission also revealed that fully vaccinated US travellers will be able to visit other EU countries as well during this summer.
Enjoy your stay
Thanks very much for this head's up. I'm scheduled out of Boston in July.Update. Just spoke with American Airlines as my trip has now been cancelled/rebooked twice and an third time with *no* notice of major change. Yikes. I am flying Denver-Madrid in late June.
1- Spain is now only allowing USA entry from certain cities. I was bumped out of Charlotte and now must fly thru Dallas, as Charlotte is not an 'accepted' city by Spain. CHECK YOUR FLIGHT CONNECTIONS!!.
2- COVID testing must be done TWICE. AA informed me I would have to have a test before boarding in Dallas AND upon touch down in Madrid per Spain law. Absolutely preposterous and makes no scientific sense, but it is what it is. For return, just one test to enter US as before.
As always, evolving. Keep the faith. Hope this helps
It concerns me that US citizens will need to get a COVID 19 test within 72 hours of entering Spain. There are limited locations to do this in St Jean, and the result will not be available until the following day? We will arrive in St Jean around 11:30 am on Thursday, 16 Sept and will spend the night. We plan to start hiking at 7:00 am the following day. So how long will we need to delay our start waiting for the test result? Each of the three CF we've walked, it has taken us 8 hours to walk from St Jean to Roncesvalles. Imagine not being able to leave until noon! Hope all this changes in the next few months! Bob
Noone knows...you will need to wait.....for that answerWhat if your vaccinated?
I always use Iberia as I live in Mexico and the consistently have the best fares and length of flights from here. Hopefully everything goes smoothly at the Madrid airport. Please drop a note if there is a problem in Madrid with Iberia if you can. Thanks. I am not going until mid October and I know things will be different by then, hopefully for the better but who knows.Hi lisadora I am scheduled to travel from Miami to Pamplona June 21, I’m vaccinated, I just call Iberia and they told me that as of “now” I also have to have the test done with enough time that by the time I stop in Madrid as a layover is within the 72 hoursShe expressed to me that
I should not have a problem arriving to Pamplona since their plan is to open June 7; mind you from Miami to the layover in Madrid is AA. We need to check again closer to the time of flying.
It's too early to know what will happen in August. Keep checking with French Embassy.Does anyone know the process if you come in from France via train from Paris? I have a flight to Paris on August 21st and plan to go to the start of the Camino by train.
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JamesDoes anyone know the process if you come in from France via train from Paris? I have a flight to Paris on August 21st and plan to go to the start of the Camino by train.
thanks
Wow. They are free in New Jersey. Where I live.A PCR test within 48 hours where I live runs $250 per test. Your suggestion would not be viable for many pilgrims on a budget.
The whole idea of travel to another country depends on the person having adequate budget to do so! Learning the costs of various options is part of the planning and decision-making that each traveler must do.A PCR test within 48 hours where I live runs $250 per test. Your suggestion would not be viable for many pilgrims on a budget.
This does not seem very practical, too me. SJPdP is not some official starting point. It would simplify matters to start in Roncesvalles or Pamplona.Get two PCR tests in America.
First to allow you to fly & get to SJPP.
The second test take just before you fly to france. These results take 24/48 hours, so only get to you once you are already in SJPP. Use 2nd test to exit france.
If the EU disallows American tourists...the odds are the flight would likely be cancelled...so check with your airlines...about whether they would give refund or voucher under those conditions.so at this point and perhaps might change after June 7 and June 30, a PCR test taken within 72 hours is required to enter Spain (https://es.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/). My only dilemma is if I wait for Spain entry requirements to change after June 30, our Sept trip might be more expensive but if I buy the tickets after June 7 and if EU disallows US citizens again after that, we would lose our non-refundable tickets which will be very expensive. In the grand scheme of things, there's plenty of space for outdoors stateside but not allowing American tourists to Spain might have some economic impact no matter how small. It's a delicate balance of safety and economic realities.
Sound advise. Also many airlines are advertising the incentive of “no cost” ticket change or no rebooking fee for non refundable tickets. And of course you can always buy the refundable ticket for more money. Forgot to mention if you buy travel insurance you maybe able to claim your ticket/travel cost (within the rules of course) so read your policy exclusions and coverage carefully. Plan carefully and use official sources for your travel information Good luck allIf the EU disallows American tourists...the odds are the flight would likely be cancelled...so check with your airlines...about whether they would give refund or voucher under those conditions.
And add to that the requirements for those who fly into Spain and then want to travel to France to start in SJPdP!I understand how people are chomping at the bit to get back to the camino, but we are piling speculations on top of shaky assumptions.
As of today, there is no US tourist travel into Spain. As of today, the PCR test requirements apply to travelers from the US who are admitted to Spain under the exceptions for ”essential travel.” Those individuals must have an RT-PCR test done less than 72 hours before arrival in Spain. Those test results have to show the holder’s passport number, which in most cases means that the traveler from the US is going to have to add a step to the process, getting the results printed out and finding a doctor or lab who will certify the results and put the passport number on the printed test results. There was a forum member who reported back a few months ago and confirmed that this was what he or she had to do. I know of no covid test result in the US that includes the patient’s passport number. But that is really a moot point now, since none of us are going to walk a camino under that regime, since we will clearly not be admitted as “essential travelers.”
As of this moment, there is no certainty about what the requirements for entry will be once Spain authorizes US tourists. We know (or we think we know) it will be limited to those who are vaccinated. We thought it was going to open up on June 7. Will Spain require those vaccinated tourists to take a covid test before and/or after arrival? Who knows.
This is worse than waiting to open the presents sitting under the tree, I know, but I think waiting is all we can do right now.
How does one from the U.S. get one of these passports?Ireland will start welcoming travellers from European Union countries, as well as those coming from the United States and the United Kingdom, from July 19, when the government vowed that it will launch the EU’s COVID-19 passport that aims to facilitate the movement for all vaccinated persons.
You will not get an EU digital vaccination certificate when you live in the USA and you have not been vaccinated in an EU country, or in three or four other specific European countries.How does one from the U.S. get one of these passports?
How does one from the U.S. get one of these passports?
I have the paper document as well as an app (My Chart) which documents the appointments with my health care provider and the particular vaccine I received.Will paper "Record Card" from the USA be accepted for verification of Covid-19 vaccinatioin?
This is exactly what I am thinking too. I will be flying in to CDG/France then hopefully catching EasyJet on to Bayonne, then train on to SJPP (a very long day as I'm flying from Washington State). Since my flight leaves Spokane at 11 I hope to drive thru at 8am Walgreens to get my second rapid test for Spain entry. I will be flying Delta and here is what their website says about timing: Most testing requirements have specific time frames you must comply with in order for your test results to be considered valid for your trip. You will want to consider the date and time of your trip in order to calculate when you should take your test to meet the requirements. If your travel involves changing time zones, remember to take that into account when selecting your test time.Get two PCR tests in America.
First to allow you to fly & get to SJPP.
The second test take just before you fly to france. These results take 24/48 hours, so only get to you once you are already in SJPP. Use 2nd test to exit france.
Make sure that it is a PCR test, and not an antigen test.Since my flight leaves Spokane at 11 I hope to drive thru at 8am Walgreens to get my second rapid test for Spain entry
When these vaxx passports do get implemented, my understanding is that antigen will be acceptable. Including just test result on paper. Also valid would be documentary proof of recovery from Covid19. But yes, for the time being it's PCR or Lateral Flow test only for entry into Spain by port or airport. Not sure about Portugal. Or Gibraltar.Make sure that it is a PCR test, and not an antigen test.
Same!Thanks everyone for posting this information. I'm planning on mid September. Will wait and see - hopefully all will be well by then.
Good point. Travel from West to East from North America means losing as much as 8 hours, 12 if you're from Alaska.If your travel involves changing time zones, remember to take that into account when selecting your test time.
Maybe:From June 7th, entry is to be allowed into Spain for those fully vaccinated at least 14 days before travel date.
USA, Canada, UK and Rest of The World:
The Whole World:
- General entry ban recommended by the EU; put into law by Spain until 30 June 2021 with the exception of the UK whose travellers are currently exempt from this entry ban as far as Spain is concerned. (INT/657/2020)
- There are still hopes that Spain will put into law what Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez announced earlier in May: that travellers from the EU and from the USA and from most if not all other countries of the world who are vaccinated against Covid-19 will be allowed to enter Spain as of 7 June 2021 - no PCR test, no self-isolation, just proof of vaccination required. No such decree has been published to date.
Maybe ... [No such decree has been published to date]
Just a quick FYI for US travelers with access to Quest Diagnostics Labs (I have no affiliation to this company). They work with Walmart and CVS pharmacies. They provide PCR testing and in most cases your insurance will pay for the test with assistance thru government funding. here is the link you can see if you qualify.
Quest Diagnostics : Home
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Once thru the process of the questions create an account set an appointment and it will send a confirmation with QR code. You will be able to change date and times as necessary. Make sure you choose the right test
The site will also show you turn around times ( to keep notice for flight requirements i.e. 72 hrs) and you can download the app for quick access to the results. I just did it for travel mid July to France and had no problems...I now have an appointment scheduled in a drive thru Walmart pharmacy (quest lab)and my insurance is paying even though I do not have active symptoms of infection. My PCR results will be ready within 24hrs but I scheduled 48 hrs out just to be sure.
This is not an endorsement but I hope this helps alleviate some anxiety
In Post #38 I included official links to PCR testing sites for Spain and France
I hope soI am still of the mind that those os us who havereceived a Vaccination approved by WHO will ”NOT NEED A PCR test. We shall see!
I don't believe anyone on this forum understands this statementsince we will clearly not be admitted as “essential travelers.”
I hope soAnd we are of the same mind. I am vaccinated. But just in case I booked the appointment. I can always cancel it if the requirements changes. I am Not leaving until after mid July but a thought crossed my mind that more people might be traveling so I wanted to make sure I have a reserved appointment and not a scramble at the last minute .
The question is, can countries make rules and the change the rules at any time?I am still of the mind that those os us who havereceived a Vaccination approved by WHO will ”NOT NEED A PCR test. We shall see!
Me too..I was shocked! I was a bit curious so I only planned to see if I qualified. The site gave a series of questions about the type of test required and whether I had an active infection to see I qualified for the program. The person will have the ability to know if there is a cost before creating an account with quest and entering insurance data and applying for an appointment.Wise! I am actually surprised that the insurance company will pay for it?
This is always a first thought as I plan for mitigation in any circumstance. Nothing is ever for sure so we do our best with the information we have from official sources. We can never control how government will make/change rules all we can do is hope first then plan, adapt, replan, mitigate and eventually we can overcome the obstacleThe question is, can countries make rules and the change the rules at any time?
YesThe question is, can countries make rules and the change the rules at any time?
I believe it is 72hrs before the flight ..but I would check with country‘s official site and or airlinesPlease clarify: When does the "72 hours" clock start ticking? Actual time of testing? Or something else?
I counted 72hrs back from the in country arrival time including the +1 day time change when I made my appointmentIs it actual elapsed hours, ignoring time zones? Or 72 hours by the clock ignoring time differences? Will they know that some places don't observe daylight savings time?
I just updated the links above Post#72 direct from the embassy websites of France and SpainSo if I book a PCR test for August 14th, expect results afternoon of the 15th. Fly out of Vancouver late afternoon on the 15th.. By the time I land in France it is late evening of the 16th I should be safe.
My head hurts.....
Hello,Hello to all. Do any of you there in Spain know whether in fact travelers from the US who are fully vaccinated will be allowed to fly in starting June 7? If so will prior 72 hourPCR be required? I read conflicting information last night, saying no, and freaked a little. I got a flight for June 9 booked to do a “ snack” Camino & Oseira monastery retreat. Thought? Facts? Gracias!
Aymarah
I agree with you on the confusion. There is much anxiety and anticipation.the official channels look confusing ( https://thepointsguy.com/news/spain...-from-some-nations-but-it-doesnt-apply-to-us/ ) it would be very sad for our camino and a complete waste of time if we are turned back when we get to Madrid. If after june 7, things are still unclear, i am pretty sure, a lot of Americans might be discouraged in booking a trip to Spain this summer. I know I'll be one of them.
Yes, the uncertainties have caused many people from many countries to hold off on booking trips.If after june 7, things are still unclear, i am pretty sure, a lot of Americans might be discouraged in booking a trip to Spain this summer. I know I'll be one of them.
An article here :And there is more: a Resolución de 4 de junio de 2021, de la Dirección General de Salud Pública, relativa a los controles sanitarios a realizar en los puntos de entrada de España.
These are nine densely printed pages in Spanish, published by the Spanish national health authorities, with details about the new rules for international travellers at their point of entry, such as when you have stepped of the airplane and have reached border control in an airport in Spain.
My very quick reading of the text published by the Spanish health authorities tells me that there are conditions for a rapid antigen test to be admissible and one of them is that the test has to be on the list published by the European Commission and that means that it has to carry a CE marking and needs to have been validated by at least one EU country. Probably not the case for many rapid antigen tests available world-wide. Not an information that is important for readers in the EU, of course, because all the available antigen tests in the EU will carry a CE marking and will be authorised by at least one EU country.Un test de antígenos o test rápido
About admissible antigen tests: So go only by what you read, and understand, on official Spanish government websites. Or what your airline wants to see at the gate before boarding. Once you are on Spanish soil, as a tourist, you are unlikely to be sent back. Although the Spanish authorities have sent back dozens of UK tourists occasionally in recent weeks but not routinely. The worst case scenario is probably that you will have to pay for an expensive additional test. Only important if you are budget-conscious.News media often omit information that is not important to their readers but important to outsiders.
Shouldn't this read: We are now only two days away and already getting clarification?We are now only two days away and still getting clarification.
Hm ... make sure to know what it says about the timeframe for the test, and the type of test required by Spain, for flights as of 7 June 2021 ... In any case, the new rules state clearly that the documentation must include the date when the test sample was taken.Spain says 72hrs before arrival...
Supposedly the rules will be reviewed every 15 days. So I would say “still”I'm sure it is miserable for those hoping to start walking soon but I can't help but be amused by the date in the title. We are now only two days away and still getting clarification. I suspect it is like most times on the camino - what will happen on 7th June we will know on 7th June! Bon courage met amis.
According to this list...I can not find a recognized antigen test by the EU in the USA.About admissible antigen tests: So go only by what you read, and understand, on official Spanish government websites. Or what your airline wants to see at the gate before boarding. Once you are on Spanish soil, as a tourist, you are unlikely to be sent back. Although the Spanish authorities have sent back dozens of UK tourists occasionally in recent weeks but not routinely. The worst case scenario is probably that you will have to pay for an expensive additional test. Only important if you are budget-conscious.
You read this on social media. Don't take my word for it.
That's the list that I found, too. However, those who are vaccinated and have appropriate proof do no longer need to take a test prior to their flight to Spain. This will be made clearer no doubt soon on the various information channels but such is my reading of the text:According to this list...I can not find a recognized antigen test by the EU in the USA.
https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/d...response/docs/covid-19_rat_common-list_en.pdf
Shouldn't this read: We are now only two days away and already getting clarification?
I would say still or just now getting clarification, not already. Already implies that something, in this case the clarification came sooner than expected. For example "the tickets go on sale on Monday, and there was already a queue to buy them on Friday."Supposedly the rules will be reviewed every 15 days. So I would say “still”
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