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Thank you! Link please?This El Correo Gallego article published 01/05/21 announces a new service of Spanish luxury trains to provide journeys with overnight on board accommodation for tourists begining later this summer and continuing next year.
This El Correo Gallego article published 01/05/21 announces a new service of Spanish luxury trains to provide journeys with overnight on board accommodation for tourists begining later this summer and continuing next year.
The link is printed in blue in the postThank you! Link please?
There are similar trains running between Calgary and Vancouver, but I just can't get into that form of travel, whatever the cost. I would always be looking out the window and wishing that I were walking along that trail. The closest that I want to come are high-speed trains in Spain, to get me to the start of my camino. I may take one from Madrid to Valencia this fall. It depends on the schedule, whether it would be more convenient to take a train from Madrid, rather than flying to Valencia (a six hour stopover in Amsterdam, after an overnight flight from Calgary). I hope that, if I wait until I am ready to make bookings, there will be better options.“Finest wines” by the bucket full... love it.
Please sir...may I have some more (tiny squeaky voice).
You are obviously not very familiar with the world of luxury train travelrather pricey
You are obviously not very familiar with the world of luxury train travel. Travelling the Transiberian railway tracks in the aptly named Tzar's Gold/Zarengold train is in a similar price range, and so are various other luxury train trips elsewhere on the globe. But I agree, there comes a limit where one simply doesn't want to pay the price even if one could. Whether it's a bed on a train or a bed for the night on the Camino de Frances. Individual mileages may vary, as the saying goes.
I used to work for Sea Container Services when they owned the Orient Express and managed to get a very cut price deal for a trip with my wife. It was very nice!It's a long story, but I'll keep it brief. The last planned outing for my Dinner Jacket (Tuxedo, y'all) was to have been the Orient Express in 2019, it was then to be consigned to a charity shop in Venice as my days of dressing to conform to the pretentions or insecurities of others are behind me. The reliable staff of SNCF helpfully declared a strike on the very day that the OE would have passed through Paris and the venture was cancelled. I'll confess to being relieved.
You're right, I'm unfamiliar with luxury train travel - being resident in the UK, that's normal.
If you were to use the west-coast 'main line' service from the North West of England to London, the passengers have been known to break into spontaneous applause if the train actually arrives at the destination, regardless of the arrival time. I was once stranded on the service for eight hours by flooding both in front and behind. The water supply failed and the only available liquid was an inordinate supply of Red Stripe strong beer. My carriage was comprised of myself and a 50/50 mix of Glaswegian football supporters and what must have been an entire convents-worth of nuns. After several hours and with the only refreshment available being consumed liberally (the weegies thought they were in heaven, the nuns in hell), the train was finally able to move off - but only back to the start point; so we never got to London.
I have used the RENFE Trenhotel in the past and that surpassed my expectations, which is my definition of a good experience.
Lovely. If I could recruit 9 family members to come with me, I'd hop on a Moscow-Vladivostok train tomorrowAh The TransSiberian.....yes I did that with eight kids and an octogenarian father-in-law. We didn’t know about gold carriages - our trip was cheap as chips, bought the tickets at the station the day before (for 1/20th of the cost we had been quoted by a travel agent at home!)
My wife and I had been booked on Costa Verde Express, one of these trains, for the San Sebastian to Santiago leg for 2020. But the service was cancelled for the entire 2020 season and more recently for 2021 as well. I presume they would be open for 2022 bookings when they're able to finalize the dates.This El Correo Gallego article published 01/05/21 announces a new service of Spanish luxury trains to provide journeys with overnight on board accommodation for tourists begining later this summer and continuing next year.
I, too, would want to be walking along side the rails to soak it all in. Hoping your trip solidifies for the Fall. Buen Camino!There are similar trains running between Calgary and Vancouver, but I just can't get into that form of travel, whatever the cost. I would always be looking out the window and wishing that I were walking along that trail. The closest that I want to come are high-speed trains in Spain, to get me to the start of my camino. I may take one from Madrid to Valencia this fall. It depends on the schedule, whether it would be more convenient to take a train from Madrid, rather than flying to Valencia (a six hour stopover in Amsterdam, after an overnight flight from Calgary). I hope that, if I wait until I am ready to make bookings, there will be better options.
I was reading Agatha Christie’s “Murder on the Orient Express”, while I was ON the Orient Express.
Unfortunately it was not luxury travel in the mid-seventies, as I was lying stretched out, on the dirty floor, with my backpack, under the long seat on one side of a compartment for 6 people.
The train was packed, and it was a loooooooooong journey, and it was the only way I could sleep (and I always go to sleep with a good book).
I was marveling at how her train schedules in the book were spot on with the actual times . . . . and hoping the murder wasn’t going to happen in MY compartment . . . . . .
I remember, being in the second class compartment with students...none of whom I knew on an overnight from Koln to Munchen. I squeezed in...onto the floor...no worries about Bed bugs then...what one does when young
I come from a long line of railroad people. My uncle managed the largest switching yard (outside Chicago) for the Chicago, Milwaukee, St Paul and Pacific; my dad was a Fireman/Oiler on a diesel for the Sanitary District of Chicago; my South African father-in-law was responsible for all South African Railways to include his personal car on the Blue Train. A truly magnificent train.This El Correo Gallego article published 01/05/21 announces a new service of Spanish luxury trains to provide journeys with overnight on board accommodation for tourists begining later this summer and continuing next year.
Unfortunately there is no more an overnight train with couchettes/sleepers from Paris/Austerlitz to Bayonne. I always thought of these night trains as my camino version of the Orient Express. The romance is gone and now only daytime TGVs go from Paris/Montparnasse to Bayonne.
The train in the north is on the narrow gauge lines which mean the space for a bed is very limited. This means that one passenger has to climb over the other to get in/out of bed! Not conducive to a relaxing vacation!This El Correo Gallego article published 01/05/21 announces a new service of Spanish luxury trains to provide journeys with overnight on board accommodation for tourists begining later this summer and continuing next year.
You are obviously not very familiar with the world of luxury train travel. Travelling the Transiberian railway tracks in the aptly named Tzar's Gold/Zarengold train is in a similar price range, and so are various other luxury train trips elsewhere on the globe. But I agree, there comes a limit where one simply doesn't want to pay the price even if one could. Whether it's a bed on a train or a bed for the night on the Camino de Frances. Individual mileages may vary, as the saying goes.
To be reasonably fair - the Zarengold trips are about 11 days on the average (there are variations that can make it 16; yes the price will go up accordinglyAh The TransSiberian.....yes I did that with eight kids and an octogenarian father-in-law. We didn’t know about gold carriages - our trip was cheap as chips, bought the tickets at the station the day before (for 1/20th of the cost we had been quoted by a travel agent at home!)....and came with smuggled sausages hanging in plain view in our windows - and brand new blankets on our bunks for three or four days (until they were snatched away from us and sold at one of the stops through said window!)
I remember those times!And there were borders to cross in Europe in the seventies . . . in the middle of the night, at one of them, a guard came around and kicked me awake, demanding my passport . . . no problem when you are young!
An interesting change of avatar...It's a long story, but I'll keep it brief. The last planned outing for my Dinner Jacket (Tuxedo, y'all) was to have been the Orient Express in 2019, it was then to be consigned to a charity shop in Venice as my days of dressing to conform to the pretentions or insecurities of others are behind me. The reliable staff of SNCF helpfully declared a strike on the very day that the OE would have passed through Paris and the venture was cancelled. I'll confess to being relieved.
You're right, I'm unfamiliar with luxury train travel - being resident in the UK, that's normal.
If you were to use the west-coast 'main line' service from the North West of England to London, the passengers have been known to break into spontaneous applause if the train actually arrives at the destination, regardless of the arrival time. I was once stranded on the service for eight hours by flooding both in front and behind. The water supply failed and the only available liquid was an inordinate supply of Red Stripe strong beer. My carriage was comprised of myself and a 50/50 mix of Glaswegian football supporters and what must have been an entire convents-worth of nuns. After several hours and with the only refreshment available being consumed liberally (the weegies thought they were in heaven, the nuns in hell), the train was finally able to move off - but only back to the start point; so we never got to London.
I have used the RENFE Trenhotel in the past and that surpassed my expectations, which is my definition of a good experience.
Still - better than an American train... except maybe for the one I took when I was 8 years old, alone, from Spokane to Bismarck.Unfortunately there is no more an overnight train with couchettes/sleepers from Paris/Austerlitz to Bayonne. I always thought of these night trains as my camino version of the Orient Express. The romance is gone and now only daytime TGVs go from Paris/Montparnasse to Bayonne.
Which plans? The luxury trains?The idea behind these plans is to detect criminals, terrorists, or anyone else at risk before they reach the EU. The review could start as early as 2021. However, systematic monitoring should not cause problems for regular travelers. "It will be a simple procedure, just an online check, that people can do before traveling to the EU."
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