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So I've booked flights to Biarritz on 10th of October to walk part way from SJPDP and flying home from Madrid on 15th October.
My original idea was to walk SJPDP to Pamplona but in my stupidity I've realised I actually have 4 days walking rather than 3 and will be in Pamplona by the 13th rather than 14th
So I guess my question is, should I stop at Orrisson on day 1? Meaning I still finish in Pamplona? Or should I continue walking on to Puente La Reina on my last day?? Also is Orrisson even open at that time of year??
A short day may be best to ease her I'm. But my mindset 8km on day 1 is cheating?
Certainly not cheating. But probably not necessary either. The vast majority of those who walk the Route Napoleon do the whole stage from SJPDP to Roncesvalles in one day. And the great majority walk the Route Napoleon rather than the Valcarlos route. Orisson can only accommodate about 10% of those who leave SJPDP on a busy day. The rest seem to manage somehow.But my mindset 8km on day 1 is cheating?
You make a valid point but only 1 in 4 who start at SJPdP finish in Santiago. I expect the challenging first day puts them off or they pick up an injury that impact's on the remainder of their walk. Obviously other reasons might be deadlines and other travel arrangements. I will be walking it in one day next month for the challenge but still would recommend making it over two days, booking permitted and if not in Orisson then Kayola is another option owned by same owners and if book month in advance can't see there been an issue with availability in October. The Camino is a people path of positive intention so more time you stop, share a pilgrim meal and integrate with so called Camino family the more insight you receive about yourself and others. They'll be lots of time for the internal journey of introspection on long stretches after Roncesvalles but my two days on the Pyrenees were very specialThe vast majority of those who walk the Route Napoleon do the whole stage from SJPDP to Roncesvalles in one day.
Spending a tourist day in Pamplona or Madrid. Cheating?Leaning towards Orisson. But my mindset 8km on day 1 is cheating?
8 km on your first day may be considered cheating by some it all depends on your fitness level and dedication to walking. I don't like long waits at the end of the day so I tend to walk long days. On my CF I walked to Espinal on the First day and stayed in Pamplona on my 2nd night. I kept up a similar pace throughout the CF and now I feel lime I cheated my self.I had thought of the extra night in Madrid, but I guess I'd rather have the extra night on the Camino.
Leaning towards Orisson. I'm walking with my sister, who really has no idea about the Camino and decided to come with me at the last minute. A short day may be best to ease her I'm. But my mindset 8km on day 1 is cheating? I"m aware that it is a difficult ascent and more than likely I wont feel that at the timeI walked Sarria- Santiago last Sept...I want to complete the whole thing, but unfortunately for the foreseeable I wont be able to do it all at once...
Ambitious! I like to walk quite long days too and generally average about 30km per day when on a long-distance route. Unless I was injured or ill I would find it quite hard to stop after only 8km. I have walked the Route Napoleon twice and the idea of stopping at Orisson never once crossed my mind. Of course the fact that both those walks predated the opening of the albergue might have had something to do with that...On my CF I walked to Espinal on the First day and stayed in Pamplona on my 2nd night. I kept up a similar pace throughout the CF and now I feel lime I cheated my self.
The last few km on the valcarlos are pretty steep too.Ambitious! I like to walk quite long days too and generally average about 30km per day when on a long-distance route. Unless I was injured or ill I would find it quite hard to stop after only 8km. I have walked the Route Napoleon twice and the idea of stopping at Orisson never once crossed my mind. Of course the fact that both those walks predated the opening of the albergue might have had something to do with that...On my most recent Camino Frances walk I chose to go via Valcarlos for a change.
True. I chose to walk via Valcarlos simply because I had already walked the Route Napoleon twice and wanted to try the alternative route. In practice I found little difference in time and effort between the two. Very few people walked the Valcarlos route that day - I saw fewer than a dozen in total between SJPDP and the Ibaneta chapel although well over 400 had left SJPDP that morning. I arrived at Roncesvalles in mid-afternoon to find the place already heaving with people who had taken the higher level route. Having now walked both routes I much prefer the Route Napoleon and if I find myself walking from SJPDP again that is the route I would take.The last few km on the valcarlos are pretty steep too.
It may be too late to get a reservation at Orisson. Under the same conditions that the OP said I would seriously doubt that I would stop there myself. Since it is so highly regarded as a place to make long term camino friends and since my walk would only be for a few days why not let someone going the full distance spend the night in Orisson instead?I just had dinner out in Wellington with previous and future Camino Frances pilgrims and our consistent advice to those about to do it was stop in Orisson on Day 1. The reason: the camaraderie established at the pilgrims dinner sets you up for the rest of the Camino. Some of the people we met there in 2017 remain our friends today.
Since it is so highly regarded as a place to make long term camino friends and since my walk would only be for a few days why not let someone going the full distance spend the night in Orisson instead?
And I'm not sure how to respond to this other than to say that after hiking in the heat and humidity yesterday having just a "faint scent" is a blessing.Not sure what to think of this implication..... it has a faint scent of "true pilgrim" about it....
Don’t stop in Orrisson. It’s a hard first day but Orrisson is only 5/6 miles from SJPP and by the time you get there, you’ll have the steeped part of the day over. Also, the walk from Pamplona is one of the best days on the Camino - good luck with it.So I've booked flights to Biarritz on 10th of October to walk part way from SJPDP and flying home from Madrid on 15th October.
My original idea was to walk SJPDP to Pamplona but in my stupidity I've realised I actually have 4 days walking rather than 3 and will be in Pamplona by the 13th rather than 14th
So I guess my question is, should I stop at Orrisson on day 1? Meaning I still finish in Pamplona? Or should I continue walking on to Puente La Reina on my last day?? Also is Orrisson even open at that time of year??
I have walked the Frances route twice , each Time i stopped at Orrisson as it the best fun ever . You meet so many friends and they remain a big part of your walk . They put on an amazing meal , and at the end , each person gets up and introduces themselves and says why they are walking the Camino . I intend on walking this route again when I retire in 4 years , and I will stay here again . Many happy memories .So I've booked flights to Biarritz on 10th of October to walk part way from SJPDP and flying home from Madrid on 15th October.
My original idea was to walk SJPDP to Pamplona but in my stupidity I've realised I actually have 4 days walking rather than 3 and will be in Pamplona by the 13th rather than 14th
So I guess my question is, should I stop at Orrisson on day 1? Meaning I still finish in Pamplona? Or should I continue walking on to Puente La Reina on my last day?? Also is Orrisson even open at that time of year??
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