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I'm cycling the Camino Madrid in a few weeks but am non-religious and doing it purely for leisure and enjoyment. I respect I'm not a pilgrim, in this respect, and would be eligible for the 'certificate of welcome' - but what's the 'protocol' for me in terms of getting stamps, staying in auberges - am I eligible/welcome there, or are places reserved strictly for walking pilgrims? I have ordered a credencial via the post and just realised I'm not a 'propper' pilgrim , so wanted to get some feedback from the forum...
Thanks,
In areas where beds are in short supply I tend to reserve private rooms, and leave the albergue beds to those who are on a tighter budget than I am.It is up to you to do whatever you think is right, but using the inexpensive accommodations of an alburgue can mean that those who DO wish to undertake a Camino as a pilgrimage, and are depending on the availability of a pilgrim's inexpensive lodging, may be left out of a bed.
I'm cycling the Camino Madrid in a few weeks but am non-religious and doing it purely for leisure and enjoyment. I respect I'm not a pilgrim, in this respect, and would be eligible for the 'certificate of welcome' - but what's the 'protocol' for me in terms of getting stamps, staying in auberges - am I eligible/welcome there, or are places reserved strictly for walking pilgrims? I have ordered a credencial via the post and just realised I'm not a 'propper' pilgrim , so wanted to get some feedback from the forum...
Thanks,
In areas where beds are in short supply I tend to reserve private rooms, and leave the albergue beds to those who are on a tighter budget than I am.
Golly gosh. Half the fun was collecting the stamps (Sello btw) along the way. When you get home you can look at your “Pilgrim Passport” and reflect on all the kind cafe / bar / hostel / pop - up bars owners who were cheering you on. Even if you’re not ( in your opinion ) a propper pilgrim don’t miss out on this wonderful experience. What I particularly love about the Camino is how the locals embrace it. They design their own Sello ( some are truly works of art) and so proudly stamp your passport. One hostess even gave me a “post it note” to make sure the ink on her stamp didn’t smudge the next page. AND that was my first Sello. It was all good from that day on. Buen Camino bakerI'm cycling the Camino Madrid in a few weeks but am non-religious and doing it purely for leisure and enjoyment. I respect I'm not a pilgrim, in this respect, and would be eligible for the 'certificate of welcome' - but what's the 'protocol' for me in terms of getting stamps, staying in auberges - am I eligible/welcome there, or are places reserved strictly for walking pilgrims? I have ordered a credencial via the post and just realised I'm not a 'propper' pilgrim , so wanted to get some feedback from the forum...
Thanks,
A description and the text can be found here on the Pilgrim Reception Office website.The credencial is your permit to stay in pilgrim hostels. Read it and decide for yourself if you qualify.
To echo what Mina said, I would venture to say there are many pilgrims who walk the Camino in search of who they are and where they are - spiritually and/or religiously. I believe there are no coincidences and things do happen for a reason. You just don’t know what they might encounter along the “way” - and for some it may be a turning point in their lives. The early monasteries and refugios were COMMANDED to welcome all pilgrims. We should do the same.Well, you don't know what you may or may not become by going through the motions.
Hi BakerI'm cycling the Camino Madrid in a few weeks but am non-religious and doing it purely for leisure and enjoyment. I respect I'm not a pilgrim, in this respect, and would be eligible for the 'certificate of welcome' - but what's the 'protocol' for me in terms of getting stamps, staying in auberges - am I eligible/welcome there, or are places reserved strictly for walking pilgrims? I have ordered a credencial via the post and just realised I'm not a 'propper' pilgrim , so wanted to get some feedback from the forum...
Thanks,
Were they issued a Compostela, or "welcome certificate" which is given to those who don't walk for religious or spiritual reasons?So I would suggest that not only is it OK to use Pilgrim facilities and carry a Pilgrim Passport, but it gets the seal of approval of the Cathedral in Santiago(because they were issued a Compostela)
Hi, baker. . .
The issue really isn't one of being religious, as there are lots of pilgrims who are seeking something that they hope to find as they journey who are not religious at all. I really appreciate that you are being honest by stating up front that you are essentially taking a bicycle riding vacation which happens to be on a Camino route.
It is up to you to do whatever you think is right, but using the inexpensive accommodations of an alburgue can mean that those who DO wish to undertake a Camino as a pilgrimage, and are depending on the availability of a pilgrim's inexpensive lodging, may be left out of a bed.
Well said, Dave. That pretty much agrees with my thoughts.Hi, baker. . .
The issue really isn't one of being religious, as there are lots of pilgrims who are seeking something that they hope to find as they journey who are not religious at all. I really appreciate that you are being honest by stating up front that you are essentially taking a bicycle riding vacation which happens to be on a Camino route.
It is up to you to do whatever you think is right, but using the inexpensive accommodations of an alburgue can mean that those who DO wish to undertake a Camino as a pilgrimage, and are depending on the availability of a pilgrim's inexpensive lodging, may be left out of a bed.
How would you define "spiritual"?
I walk to have some time off from my everyday life while thinking about why we're here, who we are, how to behave towards others, what is "right".
Were they issued a Compostela, or "welcome certificate" which is given to those who don't walk for religious or spiritual reasons?
I’ll just throw my two cents in here, ANYONE walking or cycling the Camiño should be welcome in the Refugio’s etc. Pilgrims on buses etc clearly no, because without walking or cycling or riding a horse, they simply don’t qualify.This is really true... if one's intent is to cycle and happens to use the trail on the Camino, it would probably a good idea (some say ethical?) to give the bed space to the camino pilgrims whose intent is to walk/cycle the camino... I'm just gonna throw this out there... I have a lot of friends who wants to go and do pilgrimage to the holy places of Europe but they're not walking and use any transpo (trains, bus, etc) to get to these holy places, should they use the credentials so they can avail the cheap accommodations of the Camino.... if a non-pilgrim cyclist can avail the albergue for the Camino pilgrims, should the non-Camino pilgrims be able to avail the same albergues?... just my 2 cents...
I'm cycling the Camino Madrid in a few weeks but am non-religious and doing it purely for leisure and enjoyment. I respect I'm not a pilgrim, in this respect, and would be eligible for the 'certificate of welcome' - but what's the 'protocol' for me in terms of getting stamps, staying in auberges - am I eligible/welcome there, or are places reserved strictly for walking pilgrims? I have ordered a credencial via the post and just realised I'm not a 'propper' pilgrim , so wanted to get some feedback from the forum...
Thanks,
Two things are getting mixed up in this thread: getting a Compostela and staying in donativo, parochial and municipal albergues, i.e. any albergue that is not a privately run albergue which is often geared to foot (or bicycle) pilgrims but not exclusively for pilgrims of any sort.According to the Official Pilgrim website as long as you travel with
Christian sentiment then this is ok. You don’t have to be a Christian
Just the practice of been a good human being...So you can choose any Albergue you want , who are we to judge what Christian Sentiment is.
Hey Baker,I'm cycling the Camino Madrid in a few weeks but am non-religious and doing it purely for leisure and enjoyment. I respect I'm not a pilgrim, in this respect, and would be eligible for the 'certificate of welcome' - but what's the 'protocol' for me in terms of getting stamps, staying in auberges - am I eligible/welcome there, or are places reserved strictly for walking pilgrims? I have ordered a credencial via the post and just realised I'm not a 'proper' pilgrim , so wanted to get some feedback from the forum...
Thanks,
Just have the credential and your shell. No one asks questions.I'm cycling the Camino Madrid in a few weeks but am non-religious and doing it purely for leisure and enjoyment. I respect I'm not a pilgrim, in this respect, and would be eligible for the 'certificate of welcome' - but what's the 'protocol' for me in terms of getting stamps, staying in auberges - am I eligible/welcome there, or are places reserved strictly for walking pilgrims? I have ordered a credencial via the post and just realised I'm not a 'propper' pilgrim , so wanted to get some feedback from the forum...
Thanks,
The point i’m making is that the albergues in the camino were provided for the pilgrims. If one doesnt consider oneself a pilgrim then he or she should give priority to pilgrims walking, bicycling or horseback riding in the albergues.I’ll just throw my two cents in here, ANYONE walking or cycling the Camiño should be welcome in the Refugio’s etc. Pilgrims on buses etc clearly no, because without walking or cycling or riding a horse, they simply don’t qualify.
Reading all of the responses I think you already got a huge GO whether you'll be on a vacation or a "pilgrimage".I'm cycling the Camino Madrid in a few weeks but am non-religious and doing it purely for leisure and enjoyment. I respect I'm not a pilgrim, in this respect, and would be eligible for the 'certificate of welcome' - but what's the 'protocol' for me in terms of getting stamps, staying in auberges - am I eligible/welcome there, or are places reserved strictly for walking pilgrims? I have ordered a credencial via the post and just realised I'm not a 'propper' pilgrim , so wanted to get some feedback from the forum...
Thanks,
I'm cycling the Camino Madrid in a few weeks but am non-religious and doing it purely for leisure and enjoyment. I respect I'm not a pilgrim, in this respect, and would be eligible for the 'certificate of welcome' - but what's the 'protocol' for me in terms of getting stamps, staying in auberges - am I eligible/welcome there, or are places reserved strictly for walking pilgrims? I have ordered a credencial via the post and just realised I'm not a 'propper' pilgrim , so wanted to get some feedback from the forum...
Thanks,
Who exactly are you addressing with this post? I can't figure it out because you are quoting the OP (post) which would be answering by exactly the same OP (poster)... And then again why would the OP (poster) re-read his OP (post)???PLEASE...before you reply, READ and attempt to comprehend exactly what the O.P. exactly posed.
@baker_999 was more than considerate, polite, charming and ever so thoughtful in regard to even ASKING about this.
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The albergues are for anyone who is walking the camino. The credential also makes a wonderful keepsake at the end. I have walked the Camino all 800km and didn't even enter the cathedral at the end in Santiago. Formal religion is not my thing, i would rather feel God, the universe or whatever people prefer to call the creative force in a forest or in nature. . You are still a pilgram in the sense that you still go through an internal journey as well as a physical journey. Stay in the albergues , get your credential and enjoy your journey. The camino is a great lesson in embracing diversity. If only the world could be more like life on the camino we would be a world of peace.I'm cycling the Camino Madrid in a few weeks but am non-religious and doing it purely for leisure and enjoyment. I respect I'm not a pilgrim, in this respect, and would be eligible for the 'certificate of welcome' - but what's the 'protocol' for me in terms of getting stamps, staying in auberges - am I eligible/welcome there, or are places reserved strictly for walking pilgrims? I have ordered a credencial via the post and just realised I'm not a 'propper' pilgrim , so wanted to get some feedback from the forum...
Thanks,
Wonderful sentiment Janeen.If only the world could be more like life on the camino we would be a world of peace.
This got me thinking ... the credencial identifies you as a pilgrim.In recent years, the management of the Santiago Cathedral has succeeded in cornering the market for credencials, so to speak.
Is that impression correct?
To echo what Mina said, I would venture to say there are many pilgrims who walk the Camino in search of who they are and where they are - spiritually and/or religiously. I believe there are no coincidences and things do happen for a reason. You just don’t know what they might encounter along the “way” - and for some it may be a turning point in their lives. The early monasteries and refugios were COMMANDED to welcome all pilgrims. We should do the same.
This is really true... if one's intent is to cycle and happens to use the trail on the Camino, it would probably a good idea (some say ethical?) to give the bed space to the camino pilgrims whose intent is to walk/cycle the camino... I'm just gonna throw this out there... I have a lot of friends who wants to go and do pilgrimage to the holy places of Europe but they're not walking and use any transpo (trains, bus, etc) to get to these holy places, should they use the credentials so they can avail the cheap accommodations of the Camino.... if a non-pilgrim cyclist can avail the albergue for the Camino pilgrims, should the non-Camino pilgrims be able to avail the same albergues?... just my 2 cents...
@KinkyOneI'm a pagan and if they (Christians) prey with their hands I prey with my feet.
@KinkyOne
I do not normally pay much attention to spelling on this forum, but perhaps you might consider the meaning of "prey" in English, as I doubt this is your intention.
Does a Praying/Preying Mantis get mail?
Of course it was a typo@KinkyOne
I do not normally pay much attention to spelling on this forum, but perhaps you might consider the meaning of "prey" in English, as I doubt this is your intention.
Of course it was a typo
It happens regularly to me being non-native English speaker and fast on the keyboard.
Thanks for correcting me, I meant "pray"(ing).
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