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You don't have to have studied to realize that it can get very busy in the upcoming months at the Pilgrim Office. Over the past few weeks I have helped many people to fill in the digital form to obtain the QR code that they need to obtain the ticket. My advice is simple , fill in the form the day before and safe the QR code then you can get your ticket right on arrival. Much easier than standing outside the gate together.

Go to the Pilgrims office website,
www.oficinadelperegrino.com

Pres , Register and than Single.
Choose a language
Fill in the form
And final pres create a group.
And when you filled it in correctly you will get your QR-CODE.

Good luck and Buen Camino.
 
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Forgive my ignorance, but to what "ticket" are you referring? My last visit to the Pilgrim's Office was six years ago, and I don't recall tickets or QR codes back then.

EDIT --- Never mind. I found the threads describing the registration process for Compostella, etc. It actually makes a lot of sense from an efficiency point of view. Although, it makes me wonder if I'll need a QR-code to get through the pearly gates . . .
 
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trecile

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Forgive my ignorance, but to what "ticket" are you referring? My last visit to the Pilgrim's Office was six years ago, and I don't recall tickets or QR codes back then.

EDIT --- Never mind. I found the threads describing the registration process for Compostella, etc. It actually makes a lot of sense from an efficiency point of view. Although, it makes me wonder if I'll need a QR-code to get through the pearly gates . . .
It's a new system since the second half of 2019. When you arrive at the Pilgrims Office you get a numbered ticket with your place on the queue. But in order to receive the ticket you need to pre-register your information. This saves time, and paper.
The ticket has a QR code on it that you can use to monitor your place in the queue.
 
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You don't have to have studied to realize that it can get very busy in the upcoming months at the Pilgrim Office. Over the past few weeks I have helped many people to fill in the digital form to obtain the QR code that they need to obtain the ticket. My advice is simple , fill in the form the day before and safe the QR code then you can get your ticket right on arrival. Much easier than standing outside the gate together.

Go to the Pilgrims office website,
www.oficinadelperegrino.com

Pres , Register and than Single.
Choose a language
Fill in the form
And final pres create a group.
And when you filled it in correctly you will get your QR-CODE.

Good luck and Buen Camino.
the registration calls for 'occupation? '...not familiar with the categories listed. Could you provide these in English, the site does not translate that part. Thank you :)
 

trecile

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Here's a list of the professions.
I'm not sure about a couple of the translations

Agricultores - Farmers
Amas de casa - Housewives
Artistas - Artists
Deportistas - Athletes
Directivos - Managers
Empleados - Employees
Estudiantes - Students
Funcionarios - Officials
Jubilados - Retired
Liberales -??
Marinos - Sailor?
Obreros - Workers
Parados - Unemployed
Religiosos - Religious
Sacerdotes - Priests
Tecnicos - Technicians
 
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Liberales -??
Liberal professions.

Differently defined in various countries. Examples are notaries, dentists. Could also mean self-employed. Impossible for a foreign pilgrim to know what it is supposed to mean in the context of the statistics of the Oficina del Peregrino. About 50% of pilgrims, namely those from Spain plus some other Spanish-speakers, will understand the questionnaire provided they have picked Spanish as language for filling it in, the rest will struggle with this mumbo jumbo in German, English, French and Italian which will at least keep volunteers busy who can assist arriving pilgrims.

Last year, I wrote twice to the Oficina to point this out to them, even with correct suggestions in several languages for the text on the worst buttons; judging by one reply, I think I even managed to reach the higher echelons. No change and no corrections have been made to the non-Spanish versions of the webpage/online form since then.
 
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trecile

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Liberal professions.

Differently defined in various countries. Examples are notaries, dentists. Could also mean self-employed. Impossible for a foreign pilgrim to know what it is supposed to mean in the context of the statistics of the Oficina del Peregrino. About 50% of pilgrims, namely those from Spain plus some other Spanish-speakers, will understand the questionnaire provided they have picked Spanish as language for filling it in, the rest will struggle with this mumbo jumbo in German, English, French and Italian which will at least keep volunteers busy who can assist arriving pilgrims.

Last year, I wrote twice to the Oficina to point this out to them, even with correct suggestions in several languages for the text on the worst buttons; judging by one reply, I think I even managed to reach the higher echelons. No change and no corrections have been made to the non-Spanish versions of the webpage/online form since then.
It's crazy that they don't fix this. They are using a lot more of volunteers' time than necessary, for what I imagine is an easy fix.

I'm surprised that there was no médicos category.
 
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I am medicos...lol So I agree
That's funny since it was you who asked for a translation of the job categories.

The category of liberales is not clearly defined by the Oficina (neither is technicos, btw, and one wonders what the purpose of all this is, anyway) but doctors, pharmacists, architects, and lawyers typically belong to the category of liberal professions. On Spanish websites that provide an explanation I also see photographers, translators, psychologists and journalists included in this category, basically many professions that require study/training as a qualification and lead to a job as self-employed / independent.
 
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We had difficulty actually getting the thing to load on our phones, never mind complete anything. So we arrived two days on the Portuguese. Hardly any queue ,we quickly filled in the slip of paper handed to us at the desk and were in and out with our Compostela in no time.
If you dont use à Smart phone, what then?
 
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Hardly any queue ,we quickly filled in the slip of paper handed to us at the desk and were in and out with our Compostela in no time.
And this beneficial situation was perhaps due to the fact that so many others did fill in the form online and the queues are managed more efficiently with the new system ... ? A win-win situation as they say. 😇
 

Peter Fransiscus

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We had difficulty actually getting the thing to load on our phones, never mind complete anything. So we arrived two days on the Portuguese. Hardly any queue ,we quickly filled in the slip of paper handed to us at the desk and were in and out with our Compostela in no time.
If you dont use à Smart phone, what then?
When you don't use a smartphone you can ask for a form and fill it in by hand.🙏🏻
 
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CathyP

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You don't have to have studied to realize that it can get very busy in the upcoming months at the Pilgrim Office. Over the past few weeks I have helped many people to fill in the digital form to obtain the QR code that they need to obtain the ticket. My advice is simple , fill in the form the day before and safe the QR code then you can get your ticket right on arrival. Much easier than standing outside the gate together.

Go to the Pilgrims office website,
www.oficinadelperegrino.com

Pres , Register and than Single.
Choose a language
Fill in the form
And final pres create a group.
And when you filled it in correctly you will get your QR-CODE.

Good luck and Buen Camino.
Peter - I understand that riding an E-bike disqualifies a person from receiving a Compostela. Is that your understanding? Thank you and Buen Camino
 

Peter Fransiscus

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Peter - I understand that riding an E-bike disqualifies a person from receiving a Compostela. Is that your understanding? Thank you and Buen Camino
this is what the church says,

The Chapter of the Metropolitan Church of Santiago continued to issue the certificate and in modern times the award of the “Compostela” is limited to those who come to the tomb of the Apostle for religious and/or spiritual reasons, and following the routes of the Way of St. James on foot, by bicycle or on horseback. They are required to have travelled at least the last 100 kilometres on foot or horseback or the last 200 by bicycle, which is demonstrated by the “Credencial del Peregrino” duly stamped along the route travelled. Therefore other forms of travel to access the Compostela are excluded, except in the case of the disabled.
 
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We had difficulty actually getting the thing to load on our phones, never mind complete anything. So we arrived two days on the Portuguese. Hardly any queue ,we quickly filled in the slip of paper handed to us at the desk and were in and out with our Compostela in no time.
If you dont use à Smart phone, what then?
I was also lucky after arriving from the Portuguese on Tuesday. I went to the office just before 7 thinking I’d get my QR code and be ready for a hopefully early appointment the following morning but was given a number and hurried through to the counters where I was given the paper form and was out with my Compostela in a minute. I wondered if the QR machine was out of order.
 

Peter Fransiscus

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I was also lucky after arriving from the Portuguese on Tuesday. I went to the office just before 7 thinking I’d get my QR code and be ready for a hopefully early appointment the following morning but was given a number and hurried through to the counters where I was given the paper form and was out with my Compostela in a minute. I wondered if the QR machine was out of order.
You where there just before closing.
It's simpler and quicker in this case to give you a paper form.
The QR-CODE machine is working well.
 

trecile

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. I went to the office just before 7 thinking I’d get my QR code and be ready for a hopefully early appointment the following morning
I don't believe that you can get a number for the next morning. There is a predetermined number of tickets they give out each day. Some days they may not go through all of them.
If you arrive after the numbers run out you need to return in the morning.
 
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this is what the church says,

The Chapter of the Metropolitan Church of Santiago continued to issue the certificate and in modern times the award of the “Compostela” is limited to those who come to the tomb of the Apostle for religious and/or spiritual reasons, and following the routes of the Way of St. James on foot, by bicycle or on horseback. They are required to have travelled at least the last 100 kilometres on foot or horseback or the last 200 by bicycle, which is demonstrated by the “Credencial del Peregrino” duly stamped along the route travelled. Therefore other forms of travel to access the Compostela are excluded, except in the case of the disabled.
I guess one would need the "by bicycle" part clarified then, just to be sure. Thank you for your help, Peter.
 
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You where there just before closing.
It's simpler and quicker in this case to give you a paper form.
The QR-CODE machine is working well.
I was blessed then as I wasn’t sure I’d have time for the whole process in the morning. And I’d been lucky at the 12 o’clock mass too when I happened to be in a great spot for the swinging of the Botafumeiro.
 

David Tallan

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I guess one would need the "by bicycle" part clarified then, just to be sure. Thank you for your help, Peter.
I think that what I had read on the forum when this came up previously was that e-bikes that assisted the pedalling effort by pilgrims were included as "bicycle" but e-bikes that replaced it, where pilgrims really didn't have to pedal, would not be included.

But I am at least a second hand source, so I would confirm that with something closer to official, perhaps someone who has been working as a volunteer when the question came up.
 

trecile

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I think that what I had read on the forum when this came up previously was that e-bikes that assisted the pedalling effort by pilgrims were included as "bicycle" but e-bikes that replaced it, where pilgrims really didn't have to pedal, would not be included.

But I am at least a second hand source, so I would confirm that with something closer to official, perhaps someone who has been working as a volunteer when the question came up.
I believe that's correct. @t2andreo has posted about this is the past. Maybe he will chime in here.
 
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I think that what I had read on the forum when this came up previously was that e-bikes that assisted the pedalling effort by pilgrims were included as "bicycle" but e-bikes that replaced it, where pilgrims really didn't have to pedal, would not be included.
I remember this too. The explanation given referred to the situation in August 2019. However, a quick Google News search brings up an article in La Voz de Galicia, dated 16 September 2019, who write that the only exception is made for pilgrims with a disability. Quote (translated): The Pilgrim's Office clarified yesterday that the electric bike is already among the means of transport suitable for obtaining the Compostela. Although only as an exception for people who have some kind of disability.

Of course now one can start to debate what constitutes a disability ... 😐
 

danielgzepeda

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Here's a list of the professions.
I'm not sure about a couple of the translations

Agricultores - Farmers
Amas de casa - Housewives
Artistas - Artists
Deportistas - Athletes
Directivos - Managers
Empleados - Employees
Estudiantes - Students
Funcionarios - Officials
Jubilados - Retired
Liberales -??
Marinos - Sailor?
Obreros - Workers
Parados - Unemployed
Religiosos - Religious
Sacerdotes - Priests
Tecnicos - Technicians
I would think "liberales" means self employed or unemployed. "Marinos" should be Merchant Marine. Seafarer.
Here's a list of the professions.
I'm not sure about a couple of the translations

Agricultores - Farmers
Amas de casa - Housewives
Artistas - Artists
Deportistas - Athletes
Directivos - Managers
Empleados - Employees
Estudiantes - Students
Funcionarios - Officials
Jubilados - Retired
Liberales -??
Marinos - Sailor?
Obreros - Workers
Parados - Unemployed
Religiosos - Religious
Sacerdotes - Priests
Tecnicos - Technicians
Liberales. From what I read I understand it as self employed/unemployed. Marinos. Merchant Marine. Seafarers.
 

CathyP

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I think that what I had read on the forum when this came up previously was that e-bikes that assisted the pedalling effort by pilgrims were included as "bicycle" but e-bikes that replaced it, where pilgrims really didn't have to pedal, would not be included.

But I am at least a second hand source, so I would confirm that with something closer to official, perhaps someone who has been working as a volunteer when the question came up.
Thank you, David. The bikes used would be pedal bikes with E assist. I appreciate your input and will see if I can get another source's thoughts on the matter as you suggest. Buen Camino!
 
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Tamatu

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Could someone please post a direct link to the registration form, for the life of me I cannot find it anywhere 🙄
 

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The link works fine, but unfortunately, the system does not allow one to reserve a time to get a compostela! All the QR code does is get you into the building a little sooner. It provides your information to the volunteer who can then process your compostela faster. But the overall process before getting to the actual counter needs shoring up! I have posted that elsewhere!
 

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The link works fine, but unfortunately, the system does not allow one to reserve a time to get a compostela! All the QR code does is get you into the building a little sooner. It provides your information to the volunteer who can then process your compostela faster. But the overall process before getting to the actual counter needs shoring up! I have posted that elsewhere!
Yes , I know that.
 

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You don't have to have studied to realize that it can get very busy in the upcoming months at the Pilgrim Office. Over the past few weeks I have helped many people to fill in the digital form to obtain the QR code that they need to obtain the ticket. My advice is simple , fill in the form the day before and safe the QR code then you can get your ticket right on arrival. Much easier than standing outside the gate together.

Go to the Pilgrims office website,
www.oficinadelperegrino.com

Pres , Register and than Single.
Choose a language
Fill in the form
And final pres create a group.
And when you filled it in correctly you will get your QR-CODE.

Good luck and Buen Camino.
Help
I have filled in the form several times and did ged the qr code. But i can not save it!!
I only got a message with a alphanumeric code.
What to do?
 
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Help
I have filled in the form several times and did ged the qr code. But i can not save it!!
I only got a message with a alphanumeric code.
What to do?
Write down the alphanumeric code - perhaps on your credential.
Or have your tried taking a screenshot of the QR code?
 

Peter Fransiscus

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Help
I have filled in the form several times and did ged the qr code. But i can not save it!!
I only got a message with a alphanumeric code.
What to do?
When you have your QR-CODE , hold your finger on it and than you can download it.

I did it yust now on my phone,
download.png
This is my QR-CODE.
It's down loaded to my photo's .
 
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For what it is worth and in my humble opinion, people stress unnecessarily when they believe or are told that they must receive and save a QR code after registration.

FWIW again: When registering my personal data for a Compostela - and I've done this a few times - I have never and under no circumstances received a QR code in my email or as a text message. I always received only the alphanumeric code.

I have seen an associated QR code on the screen each time after submitting my data, and I know of course how to save it to my photos or to my files or how do a screenshot. However, there are no instructions on the website to do so.

For what it is worth again and as far as I can tell: The system as it is currently designed does not send a QR code to the user and it does not expect the user to save this QR code. There is nobody at the Pilgrim's Office who scans this QR code. The alphanumeric code (consisting of letters and numbers) appears to be all that is needed. It is typed into the Pilgrim Office's computers and retrieves the pilgrim's data.
 

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For what it is worth and in my humble opinion, people stress unnecessarily when they believe or are told that they must receive and save a QR code after registration.

FWIW again: When registering my personal data for a Compostela - and I've done this a few times - I have never and under no circumstances received a QR code in my email or as a text message. I always received only the alphanumeric code.

I have seen an associated QR code on the screen each time after submitting my data, and I know of course how to save it to my photos or to my files or how do a screenshot. However, there are no instructions on the website to do so.

For what it is worth again and as far as I can tell: The system as it is currently designed does not send a QR code to the user and it does not expect the user to save this QR code. There is nobody at the Pilgrim's Office who scans this QR code. The alphanumeric code (consisting of letters and numbers) appears to be all that is needed. It is typed into the Pilgrim Office's computers and retrieves the pilgrim's data.
2205H47E has been registered correctly.

This is what I got in the mail.
 
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2205H47E has been registered correctly.

This is what I got in the mail.
Exactly. There is no QR code in the email that pilgrims receive after they have submitted their data for online registration. They receive a code that consists of numbers and letters and that is not a QR code.

The QR code that pilgrim see on their screen immediately after submitting their data by pressing "Create a group" (😵‍💫) is not needed and they don't have to save it or email it to themselves. It is a useless part of a web design that is faulty since it went live in 2019 and nothing has been done to improve it since then.

The title of this thread is misleading.
 
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Exactly. There is no QR code in the email that pilgrims receive after they have submitted their data for online registration. They receive a code that consists of numbers and letters and that is not a QR code.

The QR code that pilgrim see on their screen immediately after submitting their data by pressing "Create a group" (😵‍💫) is not needed and they don't have to save it or email it to themselves. It is a useless part of a web design that is faulty since it went live in 2019 and nothing has been done to improve it since then.

The title of this thread is misleading.
This is correct.

There has been plenty of wading in with superfluous, useless, confusing and contradictory information and I have all but given up contributing to it.

It may change in the future, but at present none of the, I think now 17, networked stations are equipped to read a QR code. This may change in the future, but since its inception and for now, it's only the 8 digit code that's relevant. This is what pilgrims present when asked for the code.
 

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For what it is worth and in my humble opinion, people stress unnecessarily when they believe or are told that they must receive and save a QR code after registration.

FWIW again: When registering my personal data for a Compostela - and I've done this a few times - I have never and under no circumstances received a QR code in my email or as a text message. I always received only the alphanumeric code.

I have seen an associated QR code on the screen each time after submitting my data, and I know of course how to save it to my photos or to my files or how do a screenshot. However, there are no instructions on the website to do so.

For what it is worth again and as far as I can tell: The system as it is currently designed does not send a QR code to the user and it does not expect the user to save this QR code. There is nobody at the Pilgrim's Office who scans this QR code. The alphanumeric code (consisting of letters and numbers) appears to be all that is needed. It is typed into the Pilgrim Office's computers and retrieves the pilgrim's data.
That is correct we only use the alphanummeric code.
and if that does not work( we will type in the name of the pilgrim)

we only need the correct spelled name to write down on the Compostela and eventually the certificate of distance if wanted (costs 3€)
so what you registrate, you get on your Compostela except that we change your name into a latin name because the Compostela is written in latin
so Katharina will be something like Catharinam and Albert will be Albertum and John Ioannum and Maria Mariam
 
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we change your name into a latin name because the Compostela is written in latin so Katharina will be something like Catharinam and Albert will be Albertum and John Ioannum and Maria Mariam
I know my Latin grammar 😇.

I was merely reacting to post #35 in this thread where the poster wrote: Help. I have filled in the form several times and did get the QR code. But I cannot save it!! I only got a message with an alphanumeric code. What to do?

There is nothing to do. I merely found it useful to point this out again.

This alphanumeric code is automatically sent by email and by text message to each pilgrim who registrated online and it is this registration code, consisting of a combination of letters and numbers, that is all that is needed.

A useful tip for newcomers: Write your registration number on your credential. Then you won't have to wrestle with your smartphone later on.
 
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LavanyaLea

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I am medicos...lol So I agree
So this is what I got:
“Las profesiones liberales son aquellas que permiten que las personas, con formación profesional o técnica para ello, trabajen bajo sus propias condiciones.”

So to me this sounds like “self-employed”.

The commonest professions that come under the liberales category:

  • médicos;
  • veterinarios;
  • abogados;
  • fotógrafos;
  • periodistas;
  • contadores;
  • corredores de bienes inmuebles;
  • economistas;
  • ingenieros;
  • arquitectos;
  • psicólogos;
  • dentistas;
  • traductores e intérpretes, etc.
Soy médica también pero no liberales 🤣 but that may change soon?! Maybe by the time I arrive at the office for my Compostela I will, actually be a liberales? Wow! Talk about digging deep from trying to answer a simple form!

“It’s not the Camino that changes me, but attempting to fill in the compostela pilgrim’s form!”
 
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A useful tip: Write your registration number on your credential. Then you won't have to wrestle with your smartphone later on
It sounds incredibly easy.
Get the alphanumeric code.
Write it down somewhere, so you can show it when you turn up in Santiago.
And finito - forget the rest.

Thanks, @Flog and @Kathar1na, for reiterating this, and making it clear!
 
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Profile maps of all 34 stages of the Camino Frances
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