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You have already walked the equivalent steepness on the Valcarlos route. Both routes have 3 km sections with a 15% slope.I understand the ascent to Orisson is the toughest part of the walk and that after that the gradient rise is less severe. Is this so?
I walked this in July 2019 and it felt only a bit more difficult than the descent to Zubiri. But you can choose two options, a less challenging longer route or the more challenging through the woods. I walked through the woods and was quite happy to get ahead of a bigger group of pilgrims that I overtook. Less waiting in Roncesvalles.1. I would like to do the shorter but more difficult way down from the top. I have watched a number of videos but everyone I saw took the longer, easier descent. Having done the descent into Zubiri before, is the Napoleon descent much more difficult that that?
Personally I found the ascent to Orrisson very easy, but I trained well in my local mountain ranges before heading out to the CF. Drank a Coffee in Orrisson and walked on.2. I understand the ascent to Orisson is the toughest part of the walk and that after that the gradient rise is less severe. Is this so?
In mid-April I walked the Valcarlos route, arriving in Roncevalles with dry pants. Most everyone coming in from the Napolean route had muddy pants. I can only assume they slipped and fell on wet leaves or mud.On the steep descent there have been injuries when the trail was wet and slippery.
If you find it wet consider how far toward Santiago you'll get walking in a cast.
I agree with Annie. There is nothing extraordinarily difficult about the "hard" route.If it's dry, neither route, into Roncesvalles nor Zubiri, is difficult.
If it's wet, the route down into both are slippery as snot!
That is the danger.
No. It is prohibited to the walk the closed section of the Napoleon route from 1 November until 31 March no matter what. The closure is absolute and does not depend on the weather of the day or the state of the path.If the weather is good and less snow on the higher elevations, do you think they will open up the Napolean route before April 1st?
NoIf the weather is good and less snow on the higher elevations, do you think they will open up the Napolean route before April 1st?
No. @Kathar1na answered above while I was seeking an earlier post of hers that cited the closure law. It's here:If the weather is good and less snow on the higher elevations, do you think they will open up the Napolean route before April 1st?
Or if the authorities have closed the route due to dangers. Ask at the SJPdP Pilgrims' Office.And from 1 April onwards, it is up to each pilgrim to inform themselves whether it is wise to walk on a particular day or not.
I walked the Valcarlos route to Roncevalles but am planning to do the Napoleon this April. I have a couple of questions if any pilgrim can help me:
1. I would like to do the shorter but more difficult way down from the top. I have watched a number of videos but everyone I saw took the longer, easier descent. Having done the descent into Zubiri before, is the Napoleon descent much more difficult that that?
2. I understand the ascent to Orisson is the toughest part of the walk and that after that the gradient rise is less severe. Is this so?
Many thanks in anticipation.
Have walked both...I walked the Valcarlos route to Roncevalles but am planning to do the Napoleon this April. I have a couple of questions if any pilgrim can help me:
1. I would like to do the shorter but more difficult way down from the top. I have watched a number of videos but everyone I saw took the longer, easier descent. Having done the descent into Zubiri before, is the Napoleon descent much more difficult that that?
2. I understand the ascent to Orisson is the toughest part of the walk and that after that the gradient rise is less severe. Is this so?
Many thanks in anticipation.
If the weather is good and less snow on the higher elevations, do you think they will open up the Napolean route before April 1st?
Walked the Pyrenees twice at the start of May - hit snow both times!This is not done to "inconvenience" pilgrims, but to save the lives of pilgrims and first responders.
April 1st may be nice weather in Florida, but in the Pyrenees mountains the weather could still be very hazardous at that time of year.
-Paul
Yes it's a tough descent but if you take it steady and be careful you'll be fine. Just remember that day one is the toughest so take it easy on day two. The 8 k or so to Orisson is just the same no rush take it easy!I walked the Valcarlos route to Roncevalles but am planning to do the Napoleon this April. I have a couple of questions if any pilgrim can help me:
1. I would like to do the shorter but more difficult way down from the top. I have watched a number of videos but everyone I saw took the longer, easier descent. Having done the descent into Zubiri before, is the Napoleon descent much more difficult that that?
2. I understand the ascent to Orisson is the toughest part of the walk and that after that the gradient rise is less severe. Is this so?
Many thanks in anticipation.
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